Doitwithstyle Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 hi all , Brought a very cheap over and under every thing is fine with it. However the action doesn't seem to open all the way . unless you pull the barrel open a little more . ( feel like a little tension pulling them back up just a small bit ) basically the bottom shell catches the action . unless you pull the barrel down when you load and unload. tbh not the end of the world as i said it cost me pence. just seeing if was a simple fix . or if any one else has had the same problem . thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I have found this with a few cheap o/u and sxs over the years. One of the gunsmiths will doubtless tell you the cause but I think I was once told it is down to poor jointing. May be a cheap fix for someone in the trade. One trick is to hold the stock very slightly up in the air at an angle so the forward weight of the barrels pulls the gun fully open. Worked on some cheap guns I had. Fortunately I have gravitated to better quality where it is not a problem. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 My Perazzi does this as did a brand new Bereatta 692 I borrowed for a day. It isn’t an issue for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 same my lanber o/u and a cheap Spanish master sxs did this. Both sub £100, both non ejector. Annoying but not the end of the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitwithstyle Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 ok amazing tbh i dont see it bothering me . just seeing if there was an easy fix then would be worth doing . thanks for your reply's will leave it as it is and not worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Might just be that it is bit stiff because it is new. A small smear of grease on the jointing won't do any harm either. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&W FOX Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 The action needs regulating, a COMPETENT gunsmith can do this for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Possibly mainspring tension on the cocking dog, easy fix with an angle grinder……no only joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I once knew of a 'sponsored shooter' who, as soon as he got his next 'new' gun from the Importers, put grinding paste on the hinge pin to "ease" it in a bit ! Okay if you get em for nowt, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, old'un said: Possibly mainspring tension on the cocking dog, easy fix with an angle grinder……no only joking. Not the craziest idea. Baikal shotguns are notorious for having stiff ejector springs. When I first got mine it was stiff as anything to open. With gravity you’d catch the bottom half of the bottom cartridge. Took quite a bit of force to get it fully opened. The usual trick was to take the ejector springs out and trim a few coils. Alternatively you could swap them for another spring. On mine I used the dremmel to take off four coils and it was perfect. It also didn’t eject the spent cartridges 20’ when opening the gun. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 When you open the gun, cocking levers are operated by the fall of the barrels to cock the mainsprings. If the mainsprings are fully cocked before the gun is fully open, there is some further travel 'overcocking' the mainsprings - hence the spring feel. This is an annoying trait. It can be adjusted by altering the cocking levers ........ but if it isn't dome right, other problems can occur - notably the locks don't cock unless the gun is opened absolutely full travel, or the locks don't begin to be cocked as the barrels begin to drop; this can lead in some designs to the lower barrel striker 'dragging', making the gun difficult to open. I have had two guns with this issue - one was easily corrected by minor bending of the cocking levers. The other (different design of cocking lever) my gunsmith advised was best left alone as it was very slight and there was a risk getting 'out of the frying pan into the fire'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Tightening the forend will help relieve the problem but nit cure it . This is the norm for most Italian O/Us and its something you have to live with To be honest if its a cheap gun then its not worth trying to have it adjusted as the time / labour spent on doing so will be far more than you want to spend and having had some experience of this kind of work it can run into more problems than its worth taking on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 My lanber O/U the same i got it secondhand but it hadnt done much ,a gunsmith told me it will get better with more use Ive put maybe 1000 carts through it and it has got slightly better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitwithstyle Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just going to leave it as is . Take about an extra 3 seceonds to change over cartridges . I can live with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Gunman said: This is the norm for most Italian O/Us and its something you have to live with To be honest if its a cheap gun then its not worth trying to have it adjusted as the time / labour spent on doing so will be far more than you want to spend and having had some experience of this kind of work it can run into more problems than its worth taking on . That is pretty much exactly what I was told about my Beretta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Gunman said: Tightening the forend will help relieve the problem but nit cure it . This is the norm for most Italian O/Us and its something you have to live with To be honest if its a cheap gun then its not worth trying to have it adjusted as the time / labour spent on doing so will be far more than you want to spend and having had some experience of this kind of work it can run into more problems than its worth taking on . I've had 3 Berettas and they all did it. I now have a Guerini and an Arramberri O/U and they both do it too. You get used to it in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Westward said: I've had 3 Berettas and they all did it. I now have a Guerini and an Arramberri O/U and they both do it too. You get used to it in no time. Interesting, I have two Berettas, one does it (S57EL), one doesn't (SO6). I have two Merkels (models 203E and 303E) and neither do it (now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haynes Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 My Browning 525 doesn't do it. The internals are different from alot of italian made guns. That's one of the reasons why I swapped from Beretta. My Lincoln drops back tho, which is frustrating but something I've just got to live with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Interesting, I have two Berettas, one does it (S57EL), one doesn't (SO6). I have two Merkels (models 203E and 303E) and neither do it (now). The SO guns are quite different from the everyday Berettas and well out of my budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Westward said: The SO guns are quite different from the everyday Berettas and well out of my budget. Well out of mine as well now, but although always expensive, at one time they were much more 'affordable' than they are now. I have owned mine for many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigH91 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Westward, I have an SO5 which does the same, so maybe not all Beretta's are made equal, its not a problem I just make it part of my concentration routine H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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