Any Audi r8 owners

[Davyo]

1 hour ago, Farmboy91 said:

I appreciate the conversation is super cars, but honestly, for out and out fun with a massive grin factor and day to day running you simply cannot go wrong with an mx5.... 

I have a MX5 NC pushing 300bhp, and its an absolute hoot.Set up on Tein Flex Z coil overs & a fast road 4 wheel alignment very little can stay with it in the twisties. Mate has a 500bhp RS Focus that stuck to my tail on the approach to Heartside near Alston.However by the second bend i was gone, would love a proper super car if i could afford  one but its the running costs that would put me off , even cheap one would cost a small fortune to keep right.My MX5 has only cost me  about £100 for service parts (plugs, diff,gearbox, engine oil/filter,coolant). Very easy to do myself, i know its not anywhere near as nice or exclusive as an AUDI R8  but it puts a massive smile on my face on every bend it sticks to.If i won the lottery id defiantly have a nice SC & the R8 is just gorgeous to look at.Id still keep Mr Grey & turn him into a proper Sleeper. 

Edited March 12, 2019 by Davyo

[figgy]

On the twisty roads I reckon your 300bhp mx5 would stick to the R8 V8.

They're not as quick as you think they would be.

Have a watch on YouTube of when you think your fast and this happens.  Some embaresed faces for sure. 

[PPP]

I had an R8 for 7 months, mostly because it took 4 months to shift it.. The Gallardo I had afterwards was a much better car to drive, much more fun and wasn’t costly to run as serviced as a specialist, but neither got close to my GT3 RS (although they didn’t cause the same chiropractor bills).  I had a 360 CS before the R8 which I sold due to work difficulties, that was 10x the car that the R8 was.  I took a v10 Spyder to MAdrid with a friend who was considering buying it, it broke down twice... Id run a mile.

[Farmboy91]

8 hours ago, Davyo said:

I have a MX5 NC pushing 300bhp, and its an absolute hoot.Set up on Tein Flex Z coil overs & a fast road 4 wheel alignment very little can stay with it in the twisties. Mate has a 500bhp RS Focus that stuck to my tail on the approach to Heartside near Alston.However by the second bend i was gone, would love a proper super car if i could afford  one but its the running costs that would put me off , even cheap one would cost a small fortune to keep right.My MX5 has only cost me  about £100 for service parts (plugs, diff,gearbox, engine oil/filter,coolant). Very easy to do myself, i know its not anywhere near as nice or exclusive as an AUDI R8  but it puts a massive smile on my face on every bend it sticks to.If i won the lottery id defiantly have a nice SC & the R8 is just gorgeous to look at.Id still keep Mr Grey & turn him into a proper Sleeper. 

I do like a tuned mx5. 

Ive got a mk1 eunos, completely standard. It wasn't until I drove that car that I genuinely believed power isn't everything. Its not a quick car at all, but it doesn't need to be. 

[Mungler]

Not been a fan of the MX5; loads of potential but too slow out of the factory to be a sports car. If I was heading down that path then the Honda S2000 seems to be the better bet or an Audi TT.

We have had a few cases at work involving Lambos and Ferraris and they are just not worth the potential aggravation when there are so many other cars to look at.

The problem with multiple car ownership is the sheer aggravation in terms of keeping on top of insurance, MoTs, servicing, storage etc - and you feel like you're spending your life in a garage or on the way to a garage (particularly so if you go the classic car route).

My advice, think it over and then don't do it  Stick with one daily driver that does everything you want it to and keeps a smile on your face.

 

[eddoakley]

34 minutes ago, Mungler said:

Not been a fan of the MX5; loads of potential but too slow out of the factory to be a sports car. If I was heading down that path then the Honda S2000 seems to be the better bet or an Audi TT.

We have had a few cases at work involving Lambos and Ferraris and they are just not worth the potential aggravation when there are so many other cars to look at.

The problem with multiple car ownership is the sheer aggravation in terms of keeping on top of insurance, MoTs, servicing, storage etc - and you feel like you're spending your life in a garage or on the way to a garage (particularly so if you go the classic car route).

My advice, think it over and then don't do it  Stick with one daily driver that does everything you want it to and keeps a smile on your face.

 

Audi RS4 would do that but can't see the point of changing to that from my porker. Not at the moment anyway.

There's just more of a wow factor to the r8 and as I said before I liked them from the first time I saw them.

But for now the decision is made. Stick with what we have and concentrate on sorting out a 'plane. 

Keep dreaming about a proper super car though.

 

Edd

[oowee]

Can't see the logic with the cars. Once you have buzzed about in it for a bit then its all done. 

Plane sounds much more sensible but there is a saying if it floats or fly's then rent it. I am after a boat but can't make my mind if to buy outright or buy a share. There are some interesting offers with new boat purchase's that are then put on hire in return for maintenance and mooring and they look quite attractive. 

[Rewulf]

37 minutes ago, oowee said:

Can't see the logic with the cars. Once you have buzzed about in it for a bit then its all done. 

Plane sounds much more sensible but there is a saying if it floats or fly's then rent it. I am after a boat but can't make my mind if to buy outright or buy a share. There are some interesting offers with new boat purchase's that are then put on hire in return for maintenance and mooring and they look quite attractive. 

A friend of mine did a boatshare thing with a very nice boat down in Benalmadena , cant remember how much it was now, 45 ft modern cruiser and a 5 litre Range Rover to use, it seemed like a good deal, you had to hire a skipper unless you were qualified (which was extra) but it was the maintainance.

He had 1 weeks use, then was informed the RR had blown up, and was going to cost £12000 quid, before he even got a 2 nd week the boats props needed replacing and engines serviced, apparently some of the other sharers had dropped out , so the costs just went up and up, he realised it was either an unfortunate series of events or most likely, a scam.
It cost him £20000 for a weeks cruising in the end as he pulled out , lost deposits ect.

If it looks too good , it probably is.

[theshootist]

16 hours ago, Davyo said:

I have a MX5 NC pushing 300bhp, and its an absolute hoot.Set up on Tein Flex Z coil overs & a fast road 4 wheel alignment very little can stay with it in the twisties. Mate has a 500bhp RS Focus that stuck to my tail on the approach to Heartside near Alston.However by the second bend i was gone, would love a proper super car if i could afford  one but its the running costs that would put me off , even cheap one would cost a small fortune to keep right.My MX5 has only cost me  about £100 for service parts (plugs, diff,gearbox, engine oil/filter,coolant). Very easy to do myself, i know its not anywhere near as nice or exclusive as an AUDI R8  but it puts a massive smile on my face on every bend it sticks to.If i won the lottery id defiantly have a nice SC & the R8 is just gorgeous to look at.Id still keep Mr Grey & turn him into a proper Sleeper. 

Now you're talking my language! 

I'd rather have an R8 or 911 but I'm more in this corner of the market. I bought a Mk2 last year with the intention of doing a turbo conversion but it turned out to have the rusty chassis rail and I ended up selling for parts. They do all seem to rust like crazy. With apologies for sidetracking the thread, is yours a BBR conversion to the 2.0L or have you managed to fine the parts yourself?  

[Pistol p]

Ford focus brake pads and disc service £200. Audi R8 brake pads and disc service £4000. Kind of made me think again.

[dessyb]

how many  labs and tackle can u get in it.

[theshootist]

2 hours ago, Pistol p said:

Ford focus brake pads and disc service £200. Audi R8 brake pads and disc service £4000. Kind of made me think again.

Its a lot of money sure, but if you can afford it I expect they are very different driving experiences! 

[eddoakley]

53 minutes ago, theshootist said:

Its a lot of money sure, but if you can afford it I expect they are very different driving experiences! 

A lot of people forget about the running costs. It's certainly a factor but I wouldn't do many miles as I generally drive something else  but it would be very nice to have the option.

1 hour ago, dessyb said:

how many  labs and tackle can u get in it.

Got a truck for the dogs and shooting so not a problem. Not being able to take Mrs Edd and Edd Jnr is viewed as a problem by some though....I couldn't say who but it might not be me....

 

But the decision is made, at least for now, I'm not getting the Audi.

 

Edd

[Dibble]

9 hours ago, Rewulf said:

A friend of mine did a boatshare thing with a very nice boat down in Benalmadena , cant remember how much it was now, 45 ft modern cruiser and a 5 litre Range Rover to use, it seemed like a good deal, you had to hire a skipper unless you were qualified (which was extra) but it was the maintainance.

He had 1 weeks use, then was informed the RR had blown up, and was going to cost £12000 quid, before he even got a 2 nd week the boats props needed replacing and engines serviced, apparently some of the other sharers had dropped out , so the costs just went up and up, he realised it was either an unfortunate series of events or most likely, a scam.
It cost him £20000 for a weeks cruising in the end as he pulled out , lost deposits ect.

If it looks too good , it probably is.

I had a Boat Broker explain the costs of running a boat, expect to pay 10% of its value a year just to keep it, when you want to sell they will hang you out to dry until you take a fraction of its value. He was smiling when he said this

[markm]

I’d love a car like an R8.

Apparently the biggest way to lose money is in static caravans, on the upper end sites.  Makes sports cars look like pocket money. 

[Pistol p]

14 hours ago, theshootist said:

Its a lot of money sure, but if you can afford it I expect they are very different driving experiences! 

Yes your definitely right about that. In my job I get to drive a lot of exotic machines and the difference at speed is vast. Sitting in traffic, they are no different. I won't own a car that I can't afford to put a clutch and four tyres on at the same time.

[Mungler]

15 hours ago, markm said:

Apparently the biggest way to lose money is in static caravans, on the upper end sites.  Makes sports cars look like pocket money. 

 

You're not wrong. Saw one the other day for a posh site in Sidmouth, Devon.

Broadly, you're tied to buy the van from the site for an arm and a leg, you pay for a long lease 10 years (at £60k ish) and then you get the annual site fees at £3-4k p.a.

At the end of the lease you have to renew the van and again you're tied into the site who will give you 2p for your van and then sell you a new one.

When you add the whole lot up, divide by the numbers of years it costs well over £100k over 10 years, that's at least £10k a year for something that you never own and may use but a couple of months of the year and which you still have to kit out and maintain yourself.

I can't but help think that £10k a year down a Thomas Cook would do better or indeed, buying a property such that after 10 years you're into capital ownership of a physical property (and which you could always rent out for 52 weeks of the year, bearing in mind that these caravan sites have to shut for at least 1 months  a year).

 

[Fatcatsplat]

32 minutes ago, Mungler said:

 

You're not wrong. Saw one the other day for a posh site in Sidmouth, Devon.

Broadly, you're tied to buy the van from the site for an arm and a leg, you pay for a long lease 10 years (at £60k ish) and then you get the annual site fees at £3-4k p.a.

At the end of the lease you have to renew the van and again you're tied into the site who will give you 2p for your van and then sell you a new one.

When you add the whole lot up, divide by the numbers of years it costs well over £100k over 10 years, that's at least £10k a year for something that you never own and may use but a couple of months of the year and which you still have to kit out and maintain yourself.

I can't but help think that £10k a year down a Thomas Cook would do better or indeed, buying a property such that after 10 years you're into capital ownership of a physical property (and which you could always rent out for 52 weeks of the year, bearing in mind that these caravan sites have to shut for at least 1 months  a year).

 

That's the extreme end of the scale though - My second one was eight grand 10 years ago and ground rent of twelve hundred per annum - so roughly two grand a year for which we're down there most weekends and the missus will go down with any number of the 11 grandkids in various tranches throughout the summer holidays or when one of our kids aren't using it. One of the best things we've ever done

[oowee]

Boat costs are a lot more affordable than a posh caravan site in Sidmouth. 🙂 

Boat shared ownership on £158k yacht. £63k deposit gives you 6 weeks bookable and 6 weeks short notice sailing worldwide. Contract is 5.5 years at the end take back £31.8k. Cost of sailing for up to 12 weeks a year is similar to two week charter (£5.5k). 

[Rewulf]

12 minutes ago, oowee said:

Boat costs are a lot more affordable than a posh caravan site in Sidmouth. 🙂 

Boat shared ownership on £158k yacht. £63k deposit gives you 6 weeks bookable and 6 weeks short notice sailing worldwide. Contract is 5.5 years at the end take back £31.8k. Cost of sailing for up to 12 weeks a year is similar to two week charter (£5.5k). 

So the boats costing effectively £500 a week or thereabouts ?
You know when I said if something sounds too good to be true ?
Factor in maintainance, cleaning (as a service charge) fuel and mooring fees, it goes up.

But personally I think youre missing a trick.
Put your 63 k into a boat yourself, and rent it out, a local agent could deal with it wherever its moored.
If the renter doesnt have sailing qualifications, it stays moored, a floating guest house ?

Boat shares are like time shares, there are some good ones, but theres plenty of bad ones.

[oowee]

The boat is rented out and all maintenance and mooring paid for in this scenario from Sunsail/ Moorings. You can do it where you buy the boat putting down a larger deposit and the income goes to pay the boat mortgage and you buy at the end for the 5 year old boat. The beauty of it is you can use other boats in the fleet anywhere in the world. 

If I buy a boat I am effectively into the same arrangement paying a management fee which is effectively what I am doing with Sunsail but I can only use my boat. Moorings will guarantee the figures (so no doubt larger margins) rather than me take the risk.

[Mungler]

Boats, planes and basements are all the same for me - I only ever see them when they go wrong and I’d instinctively give them a swerve 😆

[Davyo]

On 13/03/2019 at 13:14, theshootist said:

Now you're talking my language! 

I'd rather have an R8 or 911 but I'm more in this corner of the market. I bought a Mk2 last year with the intention of doing a turbo conversion but it turned out to have the rusty chassis rail and I ended up selling for parts. They do all seem to rust like crazy. With apologies for sidetracking the thread, is yours a BBR conversion to the 2.0L or have you managed to fine the parts yourself?  

BBR stage 2 kit,fitted by MX5 Specialists AK Auto with the BBR clutch upgrade.Top end was prev upgraded with race cams and 4/1 header and SS cat back.  

[theshootist]

1 hour ago, Davyo said:

BBR stage 2 kit,fitted by MX5 Specialists AK Auto with the BBR clutch upgrade.Top end was prev upgraded with race cams and 4/1 header and SS cat back.  

Bet it's an absolute rocket. They took all the best aspects of a British sports car with the MX5, added reliability and better handling and now you've added the last missing ingredient, power! 

[Davyo]

23 minutes ago, theshootist said:

Bet it's an absolute rocket. They took all the best aspects of a British sports car with the MX5, added reliability and better handling and now you've added the last missing ingredient, power! 

Even stock its the most fun you can have without losing you licence.This was never going to stay stock as i needed a hobby to replace shooting.

BBR kit was planned for the spring but i had a chance to get the kit and AK dont race over winter so fitted January.

Haven't  had the weather or a safe empty road to push it yet. Going to wait till spring and do a track day at  Croft  rather than use public roads.