Jamie9999 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I do not own a gun or even a licence yet but want to get into shooting. ive had a look at the government application form and it requires me to have proof of good use for the firearm. I am looking at getting a rifle. Not an air powered one. I would want to join a shooting club like target practice but don't want to buy membership for proof if I may not be accepted for licence as it would be a waste of money. Whats the easiest thing to put as 'good use' for ownership for a firearm? Thanks lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I would join a club first, unlike a shot gun your not intitled to a fac. You must give a reason. Just wanting one isn't a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Jamie9999 said: I do not own a gun or even a licence yet but want to get into shooting. Contact some clubs that have club guns, go along , pay your money and have a go. If you like it enough, join. Most firearms clubs have probationary membership criteria with around 6 months of active attendance (50% + attendance) before acceptance for full membership . Once you have full membership you can apply for a licence. This is your 'good use' reason. If you have any err, interesting convictions, they may be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Good reason is land to shoot on and a reason to shoot on it. Ie, this farmer has asked me to control rabbits on this land and the distance requires an fac in caliber. A club membership will usually lead to a closed fac to use at approved clubs unless you do sumat silly during the probation period. Edited March 20, 2019 by manthing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie9999 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Didn’t know I had another topic? I’ll check to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jamie9999 said: I will only target shoot a couple times a year but mainly I just want to collect a couple firearms. This is no good as a reason. 9 minutes ago, Jamie9999 said: i am wanting a gun licence to collect/use rifles for target shooting. Im getting deja vu here 😄 You need reason, full club membership or land cleared for x calibre. 9 minutes ago, Jamie9999 said: I don’t want to pay for membership in a club incase I get declined. You dont get membership without paying, and doing probationary period. 9 minutes ago, Jamie9999 said: (I don’t own a firearm yet) What should I put for good reason to own a firearm. You wont own any firearms legally , or be able to fill the form out until you do the above ^^ 9 minutes ago, Jamie9999 said: Is there anything that is normally acceptable to put that doesn’t require me paying into a club before. Land permission (written) the police will probably have issues with this if you have no firearm experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 If you want to shoot target rifle disciplines at a club that is your reason. You will probably need evidence of having joined a club and been attending to support the application. Assuming no criminality or health issues odds of refusal are very slim so join a club and enjoy the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Email your police firearms department, see what they advise. Better still, ring them. Edited March 20, 2019 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just so you know (Judging by your other post) continued attendance and membership is required if you go club route and have no land permission. You can't just join and get your FAC and then not attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) If you are purely interested in collecting then deactivated rifles are a considerably cheaper option all said and done. There are some obsolete things you can get still technically live without paperwork but you won’t be able to shoot them without a licence even if you persuade someone to load you up some ammunition. What exactly has caught your eye? Edited March 20, 2019 by Wb123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie9999 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Is the process any different for a shotgun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diss4111 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 It is, but I would be asking why you want a gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Diss4111 said: It is, but I would be asking why you want a gun? Me too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, Diss4111 said: It is, but I would be asking why you want a gun? 28 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Me too . Yep, it comes across as trying to find a way to obtain a cert without good reason. If money is an issue then don't take up this sport, it is in no way cheap. I've had my certs for just under 3 years and I'm a good 8 grand in at least. And I could have spent a lot more if the misses would let me. I'm far from done purchasing yet at renewal I plan on adding 3 or 4 more rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 If you cant afford the club membership, frequent visits to said club, cabinet, application and potentially medical fees even before buying a suitable firearm, optics, ammunition etc this probably isnt the sport for you. The costs applying for a shotgun are potentially marginally lower in that you may avoid the club membership but if your feo gets a funny feeling, as we all i suspect do, he will still want evidence you have been regularly shooting somewhere, which is more expensive for shotgun than rifle club meets I have been involved with (rimfire at least). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 To collect, you need to be able to display a long, meaningful and in depth historical interest in the relevant firearms. As it stands you have no land to shoot on, no interest in paying to join a club, and even if you did it would only be to shoot a couple of times a year. None of the above equates to ‘good reason’, which is a prerequisite from which to start. Without good reason you can forget about the rest I’m afraid. If it was as simple as that I’d have a huge collection. You can collect quite a big variety of obsolete calibre firearms; deacts, antique or vintage without license, but most of those capable of accepting readily available ammo will require licensing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 There is no magic shortcut to firearms ownership and rightly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Jamie 9999 Not a policeman then ? Lots of rather odd questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 In this current climate I’m finding it very difficult not to see through your questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jamie9999 said: I do not own a gun or even a licence yet but want to get into shooting. ive had a look at the government application form and it requires me to have proof of good use for the firearm. I am looking at getting a rifle. Not an air powered one. I would want to join a shooting club like target practice but don't want to buy membership for proof if I may not be accepted for licence as it would be a waste of money. Whats the easiest thing to put as 'good use' for ownership for a firearm? Thanks lads. The answer to the "good use" as you put it is to actually be allowed out on some ground to shoot and clear pests or shoot targets at a range. Spending the money on joining a shooting club could be just what you require. 4 hours ago, Jamie9999 said: Is the process any different for a shotgun? Jamie how old are you? Is it a spur of the moment decision to get a rifle or a shotgun? Usually in order to learn a little about shooting most people get either a relative or friend who shoots to help them through the process. Edited March 20, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I have merged two threads and deleted a couple of posts, one from the OP that repeated his original question ,and one from someone pointing out there were two threads running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 11 hours ago, Jamie9999 said: Whats the easiest thing to put as 'good use' for ownership for a firearm? Thanks lads. With that kind of question i hope you dont get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 14 hours ago, Jamie9999 said: Is the process any different for a shotgun? I thought you said they was FAc distance away that's why you needed a rifle. maybe its me but your not coming across as suitable candidate for a firearm is this a windup you only got 4 posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: I thought you said they was FAc distance away that's why you needed a rifle. maybe its me but your not coming across as suitable candidate for a firearm is this a windup you only got 4 posts Hence my question of "Jamie, how old are you?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 He wont be back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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