mick miller Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Valhalla? Do you mean Nirvana? No wonder you were at C4 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, mick miller said: Valhalla? Do you mean Nirvana? No wonder you were at C4 🤣 Either, either! Both a very desirable destination for some. I think Valhalla would be more fun, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 23 hours ago, oowee said: Worth every penny. Pay peanuts get monkeys. 5 hours ago, Gordon R said: The problem is that we did not pay peanuts, but still got the monkeys. About 50p a day to listen to 6music! Billy Bargain, then natural world progs, Killing Eve, and numerous progs, films etc. from other channels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Problem is you can listen / watch any other channel for free. Why does the BBC not share the fees with other channels? Why do the BBC charge for watching ITV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Christopher Jones Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 12 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, as John McEnroe once said while playing tennis, YOU CANT BE SERIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is on £194k for 3 week work Everyone earning over £150k (excluding those that are self-employed)Gary Lineker - £1,750,000-£1,754,999Match of the Day, Sports Personality of the Year and World Cup2017/18 figure: £1,750,000-£1,759,999Chris Evans - £1,250,000-£1,254,999Evans left the BBC and began working for Virgin Radio in January. So his figure reflects nine months of work on the Radio 2 breakfast show before leaving in December, and not his full annual salary.2017/18: £1,660,000-£1,669,999Graham Norton - £610,000-£614,999BBC Radio 2 Saturday show and BBC TV fee for a range of programmes such as Eurovision - but not including his BBC One chat show.2017/18: £600,000-£609,999Huw Edwards - £490,000-£494,999BBC News and and news specials. The BBC has previously reported he's taken a pay cut.2017/18: £520,000-£529,999Steve Wright - £465,000-£469,999Radio 2 afternoon show2017/18: £550,000-£559,999Alan Shearer - £440,000-£444,999Match of the Day and World Cup2017/18: £410,000-£419,999Andrew Marr - £390,000-£394,999Start the Week, The Andrew Marr Show and documentaries2017/18: £400,000-£409,999Claudia Winkleman - £370,000-£374,999Radio 2 show and various TV programmes2017/18: £370,000-£379,99Zoe Ball - £370,000-£374,999Ball's figure will only cover what she earned for hosting the breakfast show in the first three months of this year, plus her earnings for the Saturday-only Radio 2 show she hosted prior to that. Strictly's It Takes Two isn't included as it's made by BBC Studios.2017/18: Not on the list presumably because her then Saturday Radio 2 show didn't put her in the £150,000 or above wage bracket.Jason Mohammad - £355,000-£359,999Final Score, Radio 5 Live, Radio 2's Good Morning Sunday, Radio Wales, snooker, Commonwealth Games, World Cup2017/18 figure: £260,000-£269,999Vanessa Feltz - £355,000-£359,999Radio 2 show, Radio London show, Radio 2 cover2017/18 figure: £330,000-£339,999Nicky Campbell - £340,000-£345,999Radio 5 Live breakfast show2017/18 figure: £410,000-£419,999Stephen Nolan - £325,000-£329,999Nolan Live, Radio Ulster show and Radio 5 Live shows2017/18 figure: £400,000-£409,999George Alagiah - £315,000-£319,999BBC News2017/18 figure: £290,000-£299,999Nick Grimshaw - £310,000-£314,999Radio 1 breakfast show and then moved to Radio 1 drivetime2017/18 figure: £400,000-£409,999Lauren Laverne - £305,000-£309,999BBC 6 Music, Desert Island Discs2017/18 figure: £230,000-£239,000Gabby Logan - £290,000-£294,999Various sports including athletics, football, rugby, Commonwealth Games and Sports Personality of the Year2017/18 figure: £230,000-£239,999Nick Robinson - £290,000-£294,999Radio 4 Today programme, Political Thinking plus Panorama and news specials2017/18 figure: £250,000-£259,999John Humphrys - £290,000-£294,999Radio 4 Today programme2017/18 figure: £400,000-£409,999Jeremy Vine - £290,000-£294,999Radio 2 lunchtime show2017/18 figure: £440,000-£449,999Scott Mills - £285,000-£289,999The Scott Mills Show on Radio 1, Radio 1 Breakfast Show cover, Biggest Weekend and festival coverage, Eurovision Song Contest2017/18 figure: £280,000-£289,999Dan Walker - £280,000-£284,999BBC Breakfast, Football Focus and FIFA World Cup2017/18 figure: £220,000-£229,999Ken Bruce - £280,000-£284,999Radio 2 mid-morning show, Friday Night is Music Night, Eurovision Song Contest2017/18 figure: £300,000-£309,999Evan Davis - £275,000-£279,999Radio 4 PM, Newsnight, The Bottom Line on Radio 42017/18 figure: £250,000-£259,000Jo Whiley - £270,000-£274,999Radio 2 drivetime show and evening show2017/18 figure: £170,000-£179,999Sophie Raworth - £265,000-£269,999BBC News at Six and BBC News at Ten2017/18 figure: £200,000-£209,999Emily Maitlis - £260,000-£264,999BBC Two's Newsnight2017/18 figure: £220,000-£229,999Mishal Husain - £255,000-£259,999Today programme, BBC News bulletins, Radio 4's From Our Home Correspondent2017/18 figure: £220,000-£229,999Fiona Bruce - £255,000-£259,999BBC News, Question Time2017/18 figure: £180,000-£189,999Laura Kuenssberg - £250,000-£254,999Political editor2017/18 figure: £220,000-£229,999The rest of the list:£245,000 - £249,999Justin WebbMartha KearneySimon Mayo£240,000 - £244,999Sarah MontagueJon Sopel£235,000 to £239,999Sara Cox£230,000 - £234,999Mark Chapman£225,000 - £229,999Greg James£220,000 - £224,999No-one in this bracket£215,000 - £219,999Jeremy BowenVictoria Derbyshire£210,000 - £214,999Jermaine JenasAmol Rajan£205,000 - £209,999Louise MinchinKatya AdlerIan Wright£200,000 - £204,999Clive Myrie£195,000 - £199,999Fergal KeaneMary BerrySue Barker£190,000 - £194,999Naga MunchettyCharlie StaytJohn McEnroe£185,000 - £189,999Tina Daheley£180,000 - £184,999Annie MacAdrian ChilesMark Easton£175,000 - £179,999Nihal ArthanayakeClare Balding£170,000 - £174,999Reeta ChakrabatiSimon JackRachel BurdenJames NaughtieJonathan Agnew£165,000 - £169,999Ben BrownTrevor Nelson£160,000 - £164,999Orla GuerinJohn PienaarSarah SmithShaun Keaveny£155,000 to £159,999Jane HillMark RadcliffeEddie Mair£150,000 to £154,999Joanna GoslingClara AmfoDotun Adebayo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) hello, that was meant as a joke on McEnroe (tennis player!!!!!!!!) Edited July 4, 2019 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Jason Mohammad is paid £100k more than Fiona Bruce ! There must be surgeons getting less than both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Capt Christopher Jones said: He is on £194k for 3 week work Everyone earning over £150k (excluding those that are self-employed)Gary Lineker - £1,750,000-£1,754,999Match of the Day, Sports Personality of the Year and World Cup2017/18 figure: £1,750,000-£1,759,999Chris Evans - £1,250,000-£1,254,999Evans left the BBC and began working for Virgin Radio in January. So his figure reflects nine months of work on the Radio 2 breakfast show before leaving in December, and not his full annual salary.2017/18: £1,660,000-£1,669,999Graham Norton - £610,000-£614,999BBC Radio 2 Saturday show and BBC TV fee for a range of programmes such as Eurovision - but not including his BBC One chat show.2017/18: £600,000-£609,999Huw Edwards - £490,000-£494,999BBC News and and news specials. The BBC has previously reported he's taken a pay cut.2017/18: £520,000-£529,999Steve Wright - £465,000-£469,999Radio 2 afternoon show2017/18: £550,000-£559,999Alan Shearer - £440,000-£444,999Match of the Day and World Cup2017/18: £410,000-£419,999Andrew Marr - £390,000-£394,999Start the Week, The Andrew Marr Show and documentaries2017/18: £400,000-£409,999Claudia Winkleman - £370,000-£374,999Radio 2 show and various TV programmes2017/18: £370,000-£379,99Zoe Ball - £370,000-£374,999Ball's figure will only cover what she earned for hosting the breakfast show in the first three months of this year, plus her earnings for the Saturday-only Radio 2 show she hosted prior to that. Strictly's It Takes Two isn't included as it's made by BBC Studios.2017/18: Not on the list presumably because her then Saturday Radio 2 show didn't put her in the £150,000 or above wage bracket.Jason Mohammad - £355,000-£359,999Final Score, Radio 5 Live, Radio 2's Good Morning Sunday, Radio Wales, snooker, Commonwealth Games, World Cup2017/18 figure: £260,000-£269,999Vanessa Feltz - £355,000-£359,999Radio 2 show, Radio London show, Radio 2 cover2017/18 figure: £330,000-£339,999Nicky Campbell - £340,000-£345,999Radio 5 Live breakfast show2017/18 figure: £410,000-£419,999Stephen Nolan - £325,000-£329,999Nolan Live, Radio Ulster show and Radio 5 Live shows2017/18 figure: £400,000-£409,999George Alagiah - £315,000-£319,999BBC News2017/18 figure: £290,000-£299,999Nick Grimshaw - £310,000-£314,999Radio 1 breakfast show and then moved to Radio 1 drivetime2017/18 figure: £400,000-£409,999Lauren Laverne - £305,000-£309,999BBC 6 Music, Desert Island Discs2017/18 figure: £230,000-£239,000Gabby Logan - £290,000-£294,999Various sports including athletics, football, rugby, Commonwealth Games and Sports Personality of the Year2017/18 figure: £230,000-£239,999Nick Robinson - £290,000-£294,999Radio 4 Today programme, Political Thinking plus Panorama and news specials2017/18 figure: £250,000-£259,999John Humphrys - £290,000-£294,999Radio 4 Today programme2017/18 figure: £400,000-£409,999Jeremy Vine - £290,000-£294,999Radio 2 lunchtime show2017/18 figure: £440,000-£449,999Scott Mills - £285,000-£289,999The Scott Mills Show on Radio 1, Radio 1 Breakfast Show cover, Biggest Weekend and festival coverage, Eurovision Song Contest2017/18 figure: £280,000-£289,999Dan Walker - £280,000-£284,999BBC Breakfast, Football Focus and FIFA World Cup2017/18 figure: £220,000-£229,999Ken Bruce - £280,000-£284,999Radio 2 mid-morning show, Friday Night is Music Night, Eurovision Song Contest2017/18 figure: £300,000-£309,999Evan Davis - £275,000-£279,999Radio 4 PM, Newsnight, The Bottom Line on Radio 42017/18 figure: £250,000-£259,000Jo Whiley - £270,000-£274,999Radio 2 drivetime show and evening show2017/18 figure: £170,000-£179,999Sophie Raworth - £265,000-£269,999BBC News at Six and BBC News at Ten2017/18 figure: £200,000-£209,999Emily Maitlis - £260,000-£264,999BBC Two's Newsnight2017/18 figure: £220,000-£229,999Mishal Husain - £255,000-£259,999Today programme, BBC News bulletins, Radio 4's From Our Home Correspondent2017/18 figure: £220,000-£229,999Fiona Bruce - £255,000-£259,999BBC News, Question Time2017/18 figure: £180,000-£189,999Laura Kuenssberg - £250,000-£254,999Political editor2017/18 figure: £220,000-£229,999The rest of the list:£245,000 - £249,999Justin WebbMartha KearneySimon Mayo£240,000 - £244,999Sarah MontagueJon Sopel£235,000 to £239,999Sara Cox£230,000 - £234,999Mark Chapman£225,000 - £229,999Greg James£220,000 - £224,999No-one in this bracket£215,000 - £219,999Jeremy BowenVictoria Derbyshire£210,000 - £214,999Jermaine JenasAmol Rajan£205,000 - £209,999Louise MinchinKatya AdlerIan Wright£200,000 - £204,999Clive Myrie£195,000 - £199,999Fergal KeaneMary BerrySue Barker£190,000 - £194,999Naga MunchettyCharlie StaytJohn McEnroe£185,000 - £189,999Tina Daheley£180,000 - £184,999Annie MacAdrian ChilesMark Easton£175,000 - £179,999Nihal ArthanayakeClare Balding£170,000 - £174,999Reeta ChakrabatiSimon JackRachel BurdenJames NaughtieJonathan Agnew£165,000 - £169,999Ben BrownTrevor Nelson£160,000 - £164,999Orla GuerinJohn PienaarSarah SmithShaun Keaveny£155,000 to £159,999Jane HillMark RadcliffeEddie Mair£150,000 to £154,999Joanna GoslingClara AmfoDotun Adebayo well done for the list .. however it appears that the destroyer of moors and all that live in them isn't mentioned ! 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Capt Christopher Jones Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, islandgun said: well done for the list .. however it appears that the destroyer of moors and all that live in them isn't mentioned ! He is not directly employed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 42 minutes ago, Capt Christopher Jones said: He is not directly employed I did read that he is worth £4 million.. not surprising really when you see how much he charges the very rich to jet off around the world, bothering animals.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Capt Christopher Jones said: He is not directly employed Yes! The people on the list are the good guys on PAYE not those fiddling the taxman by being paid via Ltd companies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Dibble said: Yes! The people on the list are the good guys on PAYE not those fiddling the taxman by being paid via Ltd companies Let me be clear, I am not a fan of the BBC, but... ...the BBC (as do Commercial stations) buys in all sorts of product from Independent production companies (Clarksons Top Gear, etc., etc.), that doesn't mean the people on the list are the good guys, or any self employed/contractor is fiddling the Tax Man! Edited July 4, 2019 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 The BBC are a publicly funded public service broadcaster. There is a (I think generally agreed) view that as such they should; Provide an unbiased news coverage about the UK and it's interests Provide coverage of major events - Sporting, Royal, National (such as Remembrance), festivals, elections. Provide mainstream public entertainment - which can include drama, documentaries, comedy, quizzes etc. In addition, they should be unbiased in all things, political, discriminatory etc. They should at all times and in all activities be mindful that it is license fee payers money they are spending and should spend wisely and provide good value. The BBC also provides local radio and (limited) local TV coverage, which should conform to similar guidelines. In addition it provides the "World Service" both as radio and as an 'on line' presence. What they should not be doing (in my opinion) is; Trying to compete with premium (i.e. paid by choice) providers for non national sporting events by entering bidding wars Making expensive "vanity projects" (i.e. very costly new Eastenders set) Trying to cover all minority interests (there are arguments about 'cultural' coverage) Attempting to influence politics and other controversial issues (such as some environmental and similar issues) In my view, it is important to have "good people" as hosts, presenters, commentators - BUT that doesn't mean that it is necessary to pay them all 6 or in a few cases 7 figure salaries. That should be the territory of the specialist sports, political, etc channels were people choose to pay to receive a dedicated subject matter channel. Just my views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelhall Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 On 02/07/2019 at 21:09, oowee said: Worth every penny. Pay peanuts get monkeys. Pay mega money still get monkeys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 13 hours ago, Gordon R said: Problem is you can listen / watch any other channel for free. Why does the BBC not share the fees with other channels? Why do the BBC charge for watching ITV? And yet your all probably paying up £90 per month for SKY TV? The arguments against supporting people’s Salaries, is rather amusing. It would appear that it’s fast becoming “ if I don’t earn it, then why should anyone else do so” as a response to discovery of others earnings. I hear it on almost a daily basis “ your not needed as planes fly themselves”, “ the computer does it all for you” - the reason I’m rewarded in the way that I am, is that I have a skill applicable to the job. It was the career path that I chose, just the same as Politicians chose their profession and so did those that chose ‘entertainment’ ! Hence they are ‘in demand’ and command the salary that they do. 42p per day or a licence, I’ve just paid 85p for the local rag and it’s far less informative except for Ditchies lonely hearts advert in the classifieds Frankly, we could all ditch our TV sets, sit back and enjoy the comedic banter of PW as it’s far more entertaining:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Your assumption about me is incorrect. I do not subscribe to Sky TV. In outside industry, firms pay whatever they need to do. The argument is that the BBC, a publicly funded body, pays salaries way higher than that paid to the Prime Minister. Their job is of less importance. Edited July 4, 2019 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Your assumption about me is incorrect. I do not subscribe to Sky TV. In outside industry, firms pay whatever they need to do. The argument is the the BBC, a publicly funded body, pays salaries way higher than that paid to the Prime Minister. Their job is of less importance. ?????? The BBC pays what it needs to. Loads of people earn more than the Prime Minister, footballers, Police chiefs, actors, bank executives, etc., etc., etc......with all due respect so what? BBC salaries are well known for being LOW in the media market place. Edited July 4, 2019 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 In the examples you cite, only Police Chiefs are funded by the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Gordon R said: In the examples you cite, only Police Chiefs are funded by the public. ???????????????? So what again? You said outside industry!!!!! I was not aware there was a rule that nobody, however they are funded, is worth more than the PM. The BBC is well known for paying LOW wages in its sector, what is everyone problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dekers said: The BBC is well known for paying LOW wages in its sector, what is everyone problem? They may well pay low wages to the people who clean the studio, service the transmitters, cameras etc, type the scripts ........ However £1,750,000 is NOT low - and I suspect it isn't for very many hours either. Is this a good use of what is effectively public money? Well, I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: They may well pay low wages to the people who clean the studio, service the transmitters, cameras etc, type the scripts ........ However £1,750,000 is NOT low - and I suspect it isn't for very many hours either. Is this a good use of what is effectively public money? Well, I don't think so. The BBC is well known for paying LOW wages in its sector, what is everyones problem? That says what it says, the commercial Media sector pay more! I'm not talking about the cleaners, I refer to those on the list! For example Chris Evans got a big pay rise when he left the flagship BBC radio show (the biggest radio show in the country) and went to Virgin. Edited July 4, 2019 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dekers said: what is everyone problem? My problem is spending £1,750,000 of license payers money on one presenters wages. It is excessive for what the person does and the responsibility he carries. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dekers said: The BBC is well known for paying LOW wages in its sector, what is everyone problem? That says what it says, the commercial Media sector pay more! Not quite sure that I like the way this could be heading. If the BBC pay low, then perhaps they should pay higher so that they attract a better class of performer. Obviously, this would mean an increase in the licence fee. All those in favour, hands up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just now, JohnfromUK said: My problem is spending £1,750,000 of license payers money on one presenters wages. It is excessive for what the person does and the responsibility he carries. Simple as that. Complain to the BBC then, he is worth what he can get, was Wayne Rooney worth £350,000 a week, many will suggest not, but those paying him decided he was. You are of course welcome to your opinion, but it doesn't change the fact The BBC is well known for paying LOW wages in its sector! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 You cannot compare the private market, where anything legal (and sometimes illegal) goes, and profit is king! To the fiscal probity and accountability required from a publicly funded "service".............it's none of my business how private companies go about their business, as long as it's within the law....but it is my business how the BBC operate, and the wages they pay employees......because my money finances it/them! If the BBC pay such poor wages....why work for them, rather than better paying employers? Why do millions of people choose to work in the public sector rather than for private employers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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