scouser Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Just watching the Andrew Mar show, looks like we’ve been shafted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Just now, scouser said: Just watching the Andrew Mar show, looks like we’ve been shafted How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) Did anyone expect anything different leaving the negotiations to a staunch remainer? BRINO. Brexit in name only. Edited July 8, 2018 by walshie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 i am painting my gutters ....and therefore refuse to comment................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Personally I'm holding fire on my opinion, first need to see some clarification on what it all means. And second ,see if the EU will actually accept it, my feeling is that they wont without further dilution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Quote see if the EU will actually accept it, my feeling is that they wont without further dilution. Gove stated on the Marr Show that the EU has to compromise, if they don't the UK are preparing to walk away on the 29th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Mrs May-Chamberlain & her gang have proven to be totally treacherous,they`ve gone against what they`ve even said in the last couple of weeks ! She`s sticking to the script from her superiors in Euroland imho ,it`s a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said: Gove stated on the Marr Show that the EU has to compromise, if they don't the UK are preparing to walk away on the 29th. Compromise on what? It's just about complete surrender as it is. But no doubt the EU will turn the screw even harder and wring out even more concessions. We've been totally shafted by our europhile Prime Minister. RIP democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Personally I hope they don't, they put more spokes in the wheel, & they will be as stubborn as ever, then we walk on the 29th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Sincerely hope that you are correct ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 I liked the comment from Boris when describing it ..."Like polishing a ****". I think there will be a leadeship challenge in the next ten days or so and that will put the cat amongst the pigeons. JRM to replace her and a snap election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 The cabinet 'agreement' is not about negotiating a deal with the EU, it's about trying to find some common ground within the split ranks of the Tories. What the EU will say about it is already known. The EU won't be able to accept May's proposed separation of goods and services rules because such a division goes against the fundamental tenets of EU law. Barnier has said as much countless times. So what the government is proposing will never be subject to negotiation. The odds of crashing out next year without any kind of agreement at all just got shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagboy Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Retsdon said: The odds of crashing out next year without any kind of agreement at all just got shorter. Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, stagboy said: Good! Well, I don' t have a dog in the fight these days other than some assets in sterling that I can't free up, but if I still lived in Britain I'd be very concerned about crashing out with no agreement at all. Actually, my money is on a face-saving extension to the March deadline simply because a no-deal exit would be such an unprecedented and catastrophic mess for all concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Blimey are the remainers STILL at it? Getting out of the EU will be terrific, agreement or not and the sooner we do it the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bazooka Joe said: Gove stated on the Marr Show that the EU has to compromise, if they don't the UK are preparing to walk away on the 29th. hello, do we not buy more from the other EU countries than they buy from the UK, or maybe Mr Juncker has some form of memory loss, saying that if Mr Trumps zero tarrif deal for the UK comes off then maybe more companies will be ready to trade with the USA rather than the EU, Edited July 8, 2018 by oldypigeonpopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 It’s amazing how the remain focused media fails to acknowledge that athe EU superset is even more fundamentally flawed than ever before. However much leaving hurts (and I’m sure it will in short medium term), remaining in on an more tied in basis would have been catastrophic in th medium long term, this was my view at referendum time and it’s been galvanised. I'm absolutely sick and tired of people bleeting on and protesting against democracy whether is Brexit or Trump, it’s just boring.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 4 hours ago, matone said: Mrs May-Chamberlain & her gang have proven to be totally treacherous,they`ve gone against what they`ve even said in the last couple of weeks ! She`s sticking to the script from her superiors in Euroland imho ,it`s a done deal. Hope not but you could be right. Is she using delaying tactics until a few of us older Brexitiers are dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, krugerandsmith said: Hope not but you could be right. Is she using delaying tactics until a few of us older Brexitiers are dead? Hopefully, it's her that's dead (politically). Sanity may prevail when it dawns on MP's that to so blatantly and undemocratically defy the will of the people will have a cost. I for one will not vote again for those that betray us. Hopefully we will have a truly populist alternative to vote for at the next general election, that listens responds and above all reflects the will of the people. Edited July 8, 2018 by TriBsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Sold down the river, oh Theresa how could you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Retsdon said: Well, I don' t have a dog in the fight these days other than some assets in sterling that I can't free up, but if I still lived in Britain I'd be very concerned about crashing out with no agreement at all. Actually, my money is on a face-saving extension to the March deadline simply because a no-deal exit would be such an unprecedented and catastrophic mess for all concerned. Been moving assets as much and as fast as i can. Not easy over the last year. Hoping for an extension too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, TriBsa said: Hopefully, it's her that's dead (politically). Sanity may prevail when it dawns on MP's that to so blatantly and undemocratically defy the will of the people will have a cost. I for one will not vote again for those that betray us. Hopefully we will have a truly populist alternative to vote for at the next general election, that listens responds and above all reflects the will of the people. That`s what is req`d but where will it come from ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Sold down the river, oh Theresa how could you? She has form. As Home Secretary she did nothing to stop unfettered third world imigration. She is a globalist stooge. Patriotism and Theresa May do not belong in the same sentance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Sadly I think you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 4 hours ago, walshie said: Blimey are the remainers STILL at it? Getting out of the EU will be terrific, agreement or not and the sooner we do it the better. Spot on Unfortunately I think the "negotiations" were already completed long ago and what we're seeing is just for show. I really hope I'm wrong and we crash out with a clean brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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