David BASC Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 National police chief gives clear guidance on shooting under lock-down Deputy Chief Constable Dave Orford, the national lead on firearms licensing, has provided clarity on shooting under the current Covid-19 guidance following concerns raised by BASC, other shooting organisations and police forces. DCC Orford says he has clarified the position with government and he will give clear instructions to individual constabularies that shooting can take place under the current regulations as long as social distancing guidelines are adhered to. He said: “When considering outdoor shooting, police should view it in the same way they would for golf and fishing.” “My guidance to forces is clear; any facilities associated with outdoor sports and physical activities, including shooting ranges, can now reopen, if those responsible for them feel ready to do so and if they can do so safely, and in line with related public health guidance. My advice extends to outdoor pest control and deer management, on the proviso that they are doing so in line with guidance and within the law. “I’m really grateful to the shooting community for their support and forbearance through these times. I would ask that do their utmost to follow the coronavirus guidelines on activities and the management of locations.” Dr Conor O’Gorman, head of campaigns and policy at BASC, said: “This advice sets out a clear marker for police forces to follow and it should clarify some of the confusion that has been evident in the last week or so. Shooting is back open for business as long as people follow the sensible social distancing guidelines laid down by government.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid .25 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, David BASC said: National police chief gives clear guidance on shooting under lock-down Deputy Chief Constable Dave Orford, the national lead on firearms licensing, has provided clarity on shooting under the current Covid-19 guidance following concerns raised by BASC, other shooting organisations and police forces. DCC Orford says he has clarified the position with government and he will give clear instructions to individual constabularies that shooting can take place under the current regulations as long as social distancing guidelines are adhered to. He said: “When considering outdoor shooting, police should view it in the same way they would for golf and fishing.” “My guidance to forces is clear; any facilities associated with outdoor sports and physical activities, including shooting ranges, can now reopen, if those responsible for them feel ready to do so and if they can do so safely, and in line with related public health guidance. My advice extends to outdoor pest control and deer management, on the proviso that they are doing so in line with guidance and within the law. “I’m really grateful to the shooting community for their support and forbearance through these times. I would ask that do their utmost to follow the coronavirus guidelines on activities and the management of locations.” Dr Conor O’Gorman, head of campaigns and policy at BASC, said: “This advice sets out a clear marker for police forces to follow and it should clarify some of the confusion that has been evident in the last week or so. Shooting is back open for business as long as people follow the sensible social distancing guidelines laid down by government.” About bloomin time someone made it clear😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) Thank you David. “When considering outdoor shooting, police should view it in the same way they would for golf and fishing.” Edited May 21, 2020 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) Great to have the clarity and consistency of the message to all police forces - a real benefit to the community - Thanks for the post David Edited May 21, 2020 by malkiserow typo correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 NB this is England only at the mo, as soon as we have news on the other countries we will post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Thanks David. Common sence from the Police (for once) ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, David BASC said: NB this is England only at the mo, as soon as we have news on the other countries we will post I wish Wales would hurry up and allow us to do pest control etc. Fishing is okay now, but nothing mentioned about shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modafinale Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) I’m looking forward to when getting a renewal is like a fishing license renewal 7 days from online application to arrival 🤣🤣 Edited May 21, 2020 by Modafinale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 I didn't realise fishing was okay in Wales. Mate lives near Wrexham and posted yesterday that he couldn't go fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Excellent result but why do we have to fight to get common sense everytime ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gordon R said: I didn't realise fishing was okay in Wales. Mate lives near Wrexham and posted yesterday that he couldn't go fishing. Recently been announced according to my neighbour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 I will get Nick to check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gordon R said: I will get Nick to check. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/other-sport/rules-fishing-wales-you-can-18249599 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Thanks. Just passed it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 quite ironic we have some common sense just in time for the driest time of year bird wise most amusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) im going out for the first time in 7 weeks on saturday,after rooks. Edited May 21, 2020 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 As my friend said about a comment from a Judge...Common sense, not very common is it? Relates to a lot of decisions coming out of the upper echelons of the constabulary these days apart from Dave Orford who is a good old time copper inhis approach. I rank the rest of them along with the over educated bunch of scientists advising the government at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Two days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-qqDpgAdJM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 hours ago, David BASC said: He said: “When considering outdoor shooting, police should view it in the same way they would for golf and fishing.” Like I said in a previous post, any copper would be hard pushed to claim we weren’t allowed to shoot, considering fishing and golf was allowed. It’s just a shame some felt we needed police confirmation of what should have been regarded as a matter of common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 I'm not sure the police will be happy to work with common sense to be honest - why would they when they can elect to support their own ideas of peoples liberty to go about their own lawful activity. Years ago I was instructed to leave a site with written permission to be shooting a small site overrun with rabbits because the HMR noise had concerned a holiday camp visitor who called it in. I went back the next night with FAC air so as not to attract attention. I agree common sense won and I ought to have used it first time - but I was shooting legitimately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 We've got a trial day coming up in the next couple of weeks to see if a simulated day is possible within the rules. I can't foresee any problems other that the number of vehicles needed to move people and equipment about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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