Stolen Dog & pups!!

[Mice!]

Guys and girls, if you've got pups or dogs please be careful,  this is every week now a few posts a week that I'm seeing so there are probably many more.

It's so very wrong.

[sam triple]

Unfortunately until they start giving out proper punishment to those low life’s involved in this it’s going to carry on , I’m all for cutting a few hands off to those caught 

[Walker570]

Don't hold your breath if Starmer gets in, he would let them all out.

[Dougy]

These people have got to be trolling social media to target breeders.

Being more careful what you put on there will help. 

 

[12gauge82]

A push to tighten the law on pet theft has just been rejected in parliament, which I believe is a disgrace. Also another reason my dogs would never be left in a kennel outside, particularly in some areas, it's asking for them to be stolen.

[B725]

Thats terrible but with the price of pups gone through the roof it's now easy money for the scum bags who don't care about what they have done but as someone has already said the punishment is not enough. 

[JTaylor91]

A trainer round here has had 3 dogs stolen in the last 3 weeks. Scumbags.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, cannot kennels be locked up ? CCTV ? Padlocked front gate, alarms ? My friend has paying kennels and 24 hour CCTV and alarmed at night, 

Edited August 16, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper

[JohnfromUK]

35 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

has just been rejected in parliament, which I believe is a disgrace.

Parliament is a disgrace.

10 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, cannot kennels be locked up ? CCTV ? Padlocked front gate, alarms ?

These days - if they want it - they will find a way to take it.  If you do have CCTV 'evidence', it is unlikely that it would help much.

The problems are;

• Almost no chance of getting caught
• If you do get caught, light sentence
• High rewards for little risk; so true of so much crime these days

[12gauge82]

6 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

Parliament is a disgrace.

These days - if they want it - they will find a way to take it.  If you do have CCTV 'evidence', it is unlikely that it would help much.

The problems are;

• Almost no chance of getting caught
• If you do get caught, light sentence
• High rewards for little risk; so true of so much crime these days

Bang on

[WelshAndy]

Where would I stand “legally’ if I installed one of these on my back gate?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bisley-Security-Burglars-Intruders-Galvanized/dp/B0049ACMC6

[JohnfromUK]

Don't quote me on this because it seems a 'grey area', but according to what I have read, the device itself is not illegal - and nor is using it as intended ........... but IF someone was injured (or claimed they had been - e.g. stress, trauma etc.) as a result of you using it, you could be liable for damages in a civil case (or indeed criminal if the injury level warranted it).  They could make a claim they were there legitimately and unless you could prove they were in the process of criminal activity .......... it might not go well.

In this day and age - you in effect can be liable for someone injured on your property - even if they should not have been there.

[Mice!]

2 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

A push to tighten the law on pet theft has just been rejected in parliament, which I believe is a disgrace. Also another reason my dogs would never be left in a kennel outside, particularly in some areas, it's asking for them to be stolen.

Problem is people are having their homes broken in to as well.

I can't understand why they would reject it, stealing a dog is something that can't just be replaced by the insurance. 

2 hours ago, Dougy said:

These people have got to be trolling social media to target breeders.

Being more careful what you put on there will help. 

 

Probably right, but people need to advertise their pups, but at the moment you would need to be incredibly careful before letting people come and see them.

Edited August 16, 2020 by Mice!
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[JohnfromUK]

1 minute ago, Mice! said:

stealing a dog is something that can can't just be replaced by the insurance. 

I am assuming that you intended to write as corrected above?

[12gauge82]

6 minutes ago, Mice! said:

Problem is people are having their homes broken in to as well.

I can't understand why they would reject it, stealing a dog is something that can just be replaced by the insurance. 

Probably right, but people need to advertise their pups, but at the moment you would need to be incredibly careful before letting people come and see them.

You could break in and steal a dog from a home, but that is far less likely to happen, the vast majority are stolen from kennels, gardens, outside shops and even from vehicles, thefts from houses are almost unheard of and when it does happen is more often to high profile targets like celebrities for a ransom. Why make it easy for them?

[Mice!]

21 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

I am assuming that you intended to write as corrected above?

I did thanks 

 

15 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

You could break in and steal a dog from a home, but that is far less likely to happen, the vast majority are stolen from kennels, gardens, outside shops and even from vehicles, thefts from houses are almost unheard of and when it does happen is more often to high profile targets like celebrities for a ransom. Why make it easy for them?

I know what you are saying but many at the moment are getting the dam and full litters stolen are being stolen from inside the home.

We always used to tie our dog up outside the shop, wouldn't be doing that now.

[twocore]

Alot of these stolen dogs end up in ireland, theres always posts on crimewatch wirral about it, a couple of weeks ago alot got discovered on the way to ireland so hopefully they are back with their owners now.

And as for punishment for committing the crime is it that much of a surprise nothing happens, because after all we have scum running the country, so theyre looking after their own, honour amongst thieves is the saying i believe,.

'Tory'  word meaning ..... Thief,,,in pursuit of !     Not a backbencher causing grief for the opposition.

 

[12gauge82]

33 minutes ago, Mice! said:

I did thanks 

 

I know what you are saying but many at the moment are getting the dam and full litters stolen are being stolen from inside the home.

We always used to tie our dog up outside the shop, wouldn't be doing that now.

It's a sad state of affairs. As usual it's the decent members of society who fear the slightest infringement of law, look at how they step on you for a minor driving offence. It's time this country got tough on scum.

[Mice!]

35 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

It's a sad state of affairs. As usual it's the decent members of society who fear the slightest infringement of law, look at how they step on you for a minor driving offence. It's time this country got tough on scum.

100% 

[shootthepigeon]

After recently purchasing a pup that  had previously been registered to the previous owner, both KC and microchip, I couldn't believe how easy it was to transfer both into my name, with no checks with previous registered owner.

[williamwansbeck]

Dog stolen over night on Tyneside found luckily the next morning at the Dublin ferry port in a van load of stolen dogs,members of the travelling community responsible ,dogs from many areas of uk ,organised and gathered to one vehicle at a pre-arranged point.police not bothered .

 

[Lloyd90]

8 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

It's a sad state of affairs. As usual it's the decent members of society who fear the slightest infringement of law, look at how they step on you for a minor driving offence. It's time this country got tough on scum.

They need to make it legal for people to defend their own property against this scum. 
 

The law is only good when it is effective. When the law fails to act and do anything then it becomes obsolete. 
 

Shocking state of affairs tbh. 

[12gauge82]

2 hours ago, Lloyd90 said:

They need to make it legal for people to defend their own property against this scum. 
 

The law is only good when it is effective. When the law fails to act and do anything then it becomes obsolete. 
 

Shocking state of affairs tbh. 

Spot on mate.

[Mice!]

More stolen 

[bottletopbill]

Look at the price of crossbreeds if people stopped buying then it will stop as every dog should be registered to a home before they can sell any dog or pup in uk.