Taileron Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Morning all, firstly apologies if this question has been asked before, I have searched for answers but can’t find any information. Has anyone had any experience of using magic bore kits? Are they any good and is one better than the other? I have switched to 100% fibre wad shooting and the streaking in the barrels is taking some proper elbow grease to remove. My Mk38 is particularly bad, it takes multiple soakings and rodding with bore cleaner and various brushes after a 100 bird shoot. My other guns seem to be easier to remove the streaking and the magic bore looks (on the video) to be a perfect solution for my 38. I only shoot Lyevale Power reds, which are a nice clean burning cartridge. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Cant quit see why you are getting the fouling when you say the cartridges you use are a nice clean burning cartridge. Either they are or they aren't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taileron Posted September 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, DUNKS said: Cant quit see why you are getting the fouling when you say the cartridges you use are a nice clean burning cartridge. Either they are or they aren't! It’s lead and wad fouling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Taileron said: It’s lead and wad fouling. Gets tornado brush. Problem over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 A good bronze brush in a drill with some oil should loosen that kack then a spray through with brunox and a rag to finish should sort it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) If all else fails search for a "Lead Away" cloth and wrap it around a traditional phosphor bronze brush and apply elbow grease. Or use one of the Payne-Gallwey type brushes which I think are a superior design to the traditional phosphor bronze. https://www.jsramsbottom.com/bisley-heavy-duty-payne-galway-bronze-wire-brush-12g-20g-shotgun-cleaning.html https://www.napieruk.com/products/payne-galway-chamber-brush In Payne-Gallwey's time lead shot was often softer and he designed the brush that still today takes his name to address the problem and remove this leading. Edited September 21, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 I just used a phosphor bronze brush on a section of cleaning rod stuck in my electric drill for a long time. Then I bought one of the Magic Bore rods and use that now. Its more effective and cleaner to store. Personally I really rate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 try a couple of push throughs with a turks head wire then use the bronze and finally the wool mop . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardigun Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 There is still at least one Gun Cleaner spray that dissolve leading. The one I use is called "Phillips Gun Barrel Cleaner". After I have cleaned my Gun in the usual way, if there is still leading in the bore, I give a squirt of Phillips and leave it till after dinner. Then give another brushing with a bronze brush, and the lead is gone. Most Gun Cleaner sprays have had the "lead dissolver" removed or at least reduced. Probably something to do with Health and Safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Taileron said: I only shoot Lyevale Power reds, which are a nice clean burning cartridge. I switched from Hull Comp-X to those carts a few weeks ago, when out clay shooting. I found them seriously dirty and hot burning compared to the Hulls. The barrel was getting much hotter than the morning spent with the Comp-X and cleaning seemed a lot more labour intensive than normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 I just use Hoppes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Demonic69 said: I switched from Hull Comp-X to those carts a few weeks ago, when out clay shooting. I found them seriously dirty and hot burning compared to the Hulls. The barrel was getting much hotter than the morning spent with the Comp-X and cleaning seemed a lot more labour intensive than normal When I shoot 50 comp X fibre all my barrels need is a pull through with a bore snake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, DUNKS said: When I shoot 50 comp X fibre all my barrels need is a pull through with a bore snake. I find the same, even after 100 it's barely more than a quick brush with Legia. The Lyalvales needed serious scrubbing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 How longs after dinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 45 minutes ago, snow white said: How longs after dinner Thats the problem some people have dinner at dinner time some have dinner at lunch time and some have dinner at tea time 😁. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 +1 for the Philips Bore Cleaner spray. Used to struggle to get the Guerini bores spick and span bore I discovered this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigH91 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Everybody has their own favourite cleaning method but clean is clean no matter what you use. I have a 'magic bore' which I bought when using the Pro Piston 9's which left a residue very hard to shift and the magic bore did the trick at that time. I now have found that a good spray down the bores with balistol and left alone till the rest of the gun is cleaned and then a run through with some rolled up kitchen roll and one of those long fluffy mops and my gun is as clean as I will ever want it to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taileron Posted September 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 39 minutes ago, Mr.C said: +1 for the Philips Bore Cleaner spray. Used to struggle to get the Guerini bores spick and span bore I discovered this stuff. Thanks for the responses, I had not heard of Phillips cleaner so have ordered some.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 My guerini Invectus V, when new, was a nightmare to clean; required the old driver + rod + loads of work to get it sorted.... It took a while, but it's not super easy to clean somehow, with no magic, motors, or drivers. I just now use a chamber brush, and and old (stighly stacked) chamber brush to so the barrels. 10-15 go with the brush with the cleaner, then a clean(ish) bore snake to remove the remaining, and it's all good. I have no idea if it was the machining, the finish inside or a combination of both, but it DID get much much better, so perhaps don't 'invest' into tons of kit as the problem might just disapear after a few more tousands of shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) My late octogenarian friend Lord Tom-Noddy of Toyland always maintained that the Krupp barrels of his pair of London made sidelock guns he had inherited from his father were self-cleaning. That there was something in their particular steel. For throughout all of his life when they appeared the next time he used them, after he had handed them to his man at the end of the previous day's shooting, they, no matter how hard they had been used, when he next looked down them would always be spotless. And as he was a kindly old sort, friendly to all, and that belief was sole eccentricity, nobody had the heart to inform him otherwise. Edited September 21, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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