Covid Vaccine

[discobob]

It is being reported that a new vaccine has been developed that is 90% effective against covid - It is a shame that our own immune systems are 99.95% effective against it

Discuss

 

[Zetter]

But if you have a weakened  immune system/ if you get it you chances are slim 90% sounds like good news.

After all even if this is released next month / early Jan your average fit / health person under 55 wont see it until June at least as it will be NHS/ those at high risk who will need to get it first. 

  

[Yellow Bear]

11 minutes ago, Zetter said:

After all even if this is released next month / early Jan your average fit / health person under 55 wont see it until June at least as it will be NHS/ those at high risk who will need to get it first. 

But the under 55's don't need it as it is "just like mild flu if it even exists" 

[discobob]

I suppose I was casting it out there about it possibly being a mandatory requirement to have the Vaccine when the majority have no real need for it

[Yellow Bear]

6 minutes ago, discobob said:

I suppose I was casting it out there about it possibly being a mandatory requirement to have the Vaccine when the majority have no real need for it

So the conspiracy theory backers tell us   ---  but I bet many of them will be demanding that they get it as soon as it is available.

[Ultrastu]

So who thinks ,phiser  the company who is gonna stand to make millions selling it released the virus in the first place ? 

🤔

 

[oscarsdad]

What a load of anti-vax pseudoscience nonsense. A vaccine will result in herd immunity, herd immunity will protect the vulnerable. 
 

it is fantastic news and should hopefully mean the chances of multiple effective vaccines are looking much better and this Chinese nightmare can end at some point soon(ish). 

Edited November 9, 2020 by oscarsdad

[Zetter]

To be honest its a phenomenal achievement by the people involved in it they have essentially taken a process of 8-10 years and cut it by 80%. 

I guess there are still those who will think its all some long term control program by the Illuminati along with the fact we didn't land on the moon and the earth is flat. 

But if you have friends and family who are at high risk and wonder every day if the last view of them may be in an ITU ward with a ventilator on its great news. 

 

 

[JohnfromUK]

2 hours ago, oscarsdad said:

it is fantastic news and should hopefully mean the chances of multiple effective vaccines are looking much better

This /\, and  this \/

2 hours ago, Zetter said:

To be honest its a phenomenal achievement by the people involved in it they have essentially taken a process of 8-10 years and cut it by 80%.

 

[eddoakley]

Come back in 10-20 years when it's been tested and proven not to have long-term side effects.

Until then none of my family will be having it.

 

Edd

[Scully]

If it means we can all resume our daily lives without having to wear masks and squirt sanitiser  like it’s going out of fashion, socialise normally, get all businesses operating normally without the threat of more lockdowns, then I’ll be getting it as soon as the opportunity arises. 
Great news as far as I’m concerned. 👍

[bavarianbrit]

Pfizer shut down their huge facility in Sandwich Kent around 2011, so now where will it be produced?

Devastated the economy and the areas employment back then.

[Ultrastu]

So maybe the next step will be any insurance you may have will become invalid unless you can show your vaccine card .(some insurance company's are already not paying out if you have a claim during lock down) 

And you won't be able to to into a shop or pub without the card .

Next step will be fines and worse if found out of doors without your vaccine proof ) 

Dark times ahead . And I wish It wasn't true but it will come to pass in one form or another .

 

and thats just the bright side .

What happens if your  socially forced to have it and it creates  more health issues than it solves .? 

[treetree]

3 hours ago, Zetter said:

To be honest its a phenomenal achievement by the people involved in it they have essentially taken a process of 8-10 years and cut it by 80%. 

I'm sure the aeroplane you might fly in next could be built in 80% less time, but I bet you wouldn't want to fly on it.

I'll be giving it a miss thanks.

[Scully]

19 minutes ago, Ultrastu said:

So maybe the next step will be any insurance you may have will become invalid unless you can show your vaccine card .(some insurance company's are already not paying out if you have a claim during lock down) 

And you won't be able to to into a shop or pub without the card .

Next step will be fines and worse if found out of doors without your vaccine proof ) 

Dark times ahead . And I wish It wasn't true but it will come to pass in one form or another .

 

and thats just the bright side .

What happens if your  socially forced to have it and it creates  more health issues than it solves .? 

Really? You mean like they do with the flu jab?  

[JKD]

27 minutes ago, Ultrastu said:

So maybe the next step will be any insurance you may have will become invalid unless you can show your vaccine card .(some insurance company's are already not paying out if you have a claim during lock down) 

And you won't be able to to into a shop or pub without the card .

Next step will be fines and worse if found out of doors without your vaccine proof ) 

Dark times ahead . And I wish It wasn't true but it will come to pass in one form or another .

 

and thats just the bright side .

What happens if your  socially forced to have it and it creates  more health issues than it solves .? 

You watch too many films 🤔

Can you substantiate the "insurance claims" part of your statement ?

Also, once a vaccine is readily available it [Covid19] will be "just another flu" 🤧

Edited November 9, 2020 by JKD

[AVB]

I see the journalists are excelling as usual during the PM’s Covid briefing. “If I have an inoculation on 1st December will I be able to hug Granny at Christmas”. It’s always about granny! 

42 minutes ago, bavarianbrit said:

Pfizer shut down their huge facility in Sandwich Kent around 2011, so now where will it be produced?

Devastated the economy and the areas employment back then.

It will be manufactured across the world. They still have a manufacturing site in Havant iirc. A lot of research goes on in Cambridge. 

[eddoakley]

7 minutes ago, JKD said:

 

 

Also, once a vaccine is readily available it [Covid19] will be "just another flu" 🤧

So there are 30 variations of influenza (a corona virus) and the "vaccine" is a guess at best of which one might be prevalent that season.

There is no cure or vaccine for the common cold (a corona virus)

There are reportedly more than a dozen strains of covid 19 already and more predicted every year.....And in a few months Pfizer have come up with a 90% effective vaccine that's proven to be safe.

Thalidomide anyone? Great drug, definitely safe.....

Nah, I'll take my chances and so will my family.

I was going to go for a pint tonight until I saw that you had to produce photo I.D. And sign up to track and trace to get in.

Not liking the idea of being so controlled one little bit and I believe, like others have said, that compulsory vaccines are coming.

Edd

[Raja Clavata]

Just now, AVB said:

I see the journalists are excelling as usual during the PM’s Covid briefing. “If I have an inoculation on 1st December will I be able to hug Granny at Christmas”. It’s always about granny! 

Just move XMAS to December the 35th 😉 

The question was a typically poor one but at least the answer gave some useful insight (14 days after the second dose).

[JKD]

1 minute ago, eddoakley said:

So there are 30 variations of influenza (a corona virus) and the "vaccine" is a guess at best of which one might be prevalent that season.

There is no cure or vaccine for the common cold (a corona virus)

There are reportedly more than a dozen strains of covid 19 already and more predicted every year.....And in a few months Pfizer have come up with a 90% effective vaccine that's proven to be safe.

Thalidomide anyone? Great drug, definitely safe.....

Nah, I'll take my chances and so will my family.

I was going to go for a pint tonight until I saw that you had to produce photo I.D. And sign up to track and trace to get in.

Not liking the idea of being so controlled one little bit and I believe, like others have said, that compulsory vaccines are coming.

Edd

And, as has been pointed out numerous times on this topic, people still die from influenza, whichever strain it is at that time, and a 'flu-jab' is has been available for years. So this will fall into that category,,,, IMO

I believe that there will be no compulsory vaccinations in the future, as there aren't any now ?

[Zetter]

For those of us who are health no issues to an extent if you get a shot or not as you wont be getting one even if you want it till at least mid next year. After all I have never had a flu shot and to be honest dont need one as I have not had Flu since I was eight.

However if you are in the category of the population who dont have this luxury and if you get Covid its likely to be curtains its got to be good news. Mainly due to the fact that they will have some protection from those who have been happily spreading it which is why we have a spike now.

Yes its been developed fast but we put men on the moon by throwing a heck of a lot of resources and money at it so I dont find it hard to believe that it has been done this fast with the collaboration and knowledge that has been thrown at it.

[Cranfield]

If you don't want the vaccine, that is your choice, I am not sure that it could be made compulsory.
I will be pleased to have the jab(s) , just to get my life back on track.
At my age I can't afford to waste another year treading water.
 

[Scully]

13 minutes ago, eddoakley said:

So there are 30 variations of influenza (a corona virus) and the "vaccine" is a guess at best of which one might be prevalent that season.

There is no cure or vaccine for the common cold (a corona virus)

There are reportedly more than a dozen strains of covid 19 already and more predicted every year.....And in a few months Pfizer have come up with a 90% effective vaccine that's proven to be safe.

Thalidomide anyone? Great drug, definitely safe.....

Nah, I'll take my chances and so will my family.

I was going to go for a pint tonight until I saw that you had to produce photo I.D. And sign up to track and trace to get in.

Not liking the idea of being so controlled one little bit and I believe, like others have said, that compulsory vaccines are coming.

Edd

There is no obligation ( and certainly not any legislation ) to produce photo ID nor to sign up to track and trace. 

[JKD]

7 minutes ago, Cranfield said:

If you don't want the vaccine, that is your choice, I am not sure that it could be made compulsory.
I will be pleased to have the jab(s) , just to get my life back on track.
At my age I can't afford to waste another year treading water.
 

I concur with your sentiments.... Life must go on,,,, it has been for hundreds of years with influenza and many other 'viruses' 🤔

[Vince Green]

Me too, I will be right at the front of the queue