Newkid Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Noticed the pigeons were hammering the rape on one of my permissions so booked a day of work and Met my shooting partner got set up for around 9 and by the time I’d moved the car he had dropped three ended the day on 62 between us thanks for watching Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Those pigeons decoyed very well. Good effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 yes you did do well, and nice video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Thanks for sharing. Pigeons came in very well. Missed the ones at end of the barrel and then nailed a long crosser at 3:43 - I know your pain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 How far away is that road ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkid Posted March 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, ninjaferret said: How far away is that road ? 300yds plus either way of the hide 👍 Edited March 1, 2021 by Newkid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 ShotKam gives a zoom effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkid Posted March 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, WalkedUp said: ShotKam gives a zoom effect. Thought that when I watched the video back very deceiving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 Nice to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Newkid said: Thought that when I watched the video back very deceiving If you want to look like you are an assassin use a Go Pro. The wood pigeons look like robins. ShotKam is permanently 4x zoom so makes all shots look closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Neal Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 I'll take your word for it that the road is out of range, but in some cases it does look like you're trying to shoot out the windscreens of passing vehicles! Very strange zoom effect, I can't watch it without feeling a bit funny 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 Some good shooting there and some very obliging pigeons, they certainly liked your setup. Nice clear pics, thanks for posting. Shotkams do seem to magnify backgrounds and make judging range almost impossible and I can understand the comments about the road distance. There is also the slow motion aspect, which makes the viewer often wonder "how did he miss that ?", some real time footage would easily illustrate the speed of the birds and the reaction time. Most of us have shot enough to understand the reality of a day in the hide.🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 they decoyed a treat , just your shooting needs inproving a bit , a bit more choke maybe , does the gun fit you ok, with a dog i bet you would pick a few along the hedges , with the amount you pricked , well iv'e had my moan well done anyway , good vid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Cranfield said: Some good shooting there and some very obliging pigeons, they certainly liked your setup. Nice clear pics, thanks for posting. Shotkams do seem to magnify backgrounds and make judging range almost impossible and I can understand the comments about the road distance. There is also the slow motion aspect, which makes the viewer often wonder "how did he miss that ?", some real time footage would easily illustrate the speed of the birds and the reaction time. Most of us have shot enough to understand the reality of a day in the hide.🙂 If you want to view the video at near real time left click the cog in the lower right hand and set video speed to 2. 29 minutes ago, kenholland said: they decoyed a treat , just your shooting needs inproving a bit , a bit more choke maybe , does the gun fit you ok, with a dog i bet you would pick a few along the hedges , with the amount you pricked , well iv'e had my moan well done anyway , good vid. if his decoys were 20-25 or even 30 yards out then most of those birds were well in range, it may have been the case that more open chokes would have been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkid Posted March 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 On 01/03/2021 at 21:50, Jim Neal said: I'll take your word for it that the road is out of range, but in some cases it does look like you're trying to shoot out the windscreens of passing vehicles! Very strange zoom effect, I can't watch it without feeling a bit funny 😕 No vehicles were harmed in the making of this video 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkid Posted March 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 On 02/03/2021 at 15:42, kenholland said: they decoyed a treat , just your shooting needs inproving a bit , a bit more choke maybe , does the gun fit you ok, with a dog i bet you would pick a few along the hedges , with the amount you pricked , well iv'e had my moan well done anyway , good vid. I was using 1/4 and 1/2 what would you recommend ? they were falling around 40yds away and yes there was a few that were pricked I was using clear pigeons 32 6s and I sent my mate to walk the tree lines after and he came back with a couple atb Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Newkid said: I was using 1/4 and 1/2 what would you recommend ? they were falling around 40yds away and yes there was a few that were pricked I was using clear pigeons 32 6s and I sent my mate to walk the tree lines after and he came back with a couple atb Dean There is no need to defend your actions. Too many on this forum rush to judgement when videos are posted. Those people never miss or wound a bird of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 I thoroughly enjoyed watching that video, well done and thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Good video. I enjoyed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkin Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Hello we can all say what you should have done but I think you done well especially decoying pigeon in like that alot of people can't get them in that close . The only thing I have found you said about 32g cartridges are better at longer distances ?,well done mate and look forward to seeing next shot cam action. All the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 15 hours ago, Newkid said: I was using 1/4 and 1/2 what would you recommend ? they were falling around 40yds away and yes there was a few that were pricked I was using clear pigeons 32 6s and I sent my mate to walk the tree lines after and he came back with a couple atb Dean don't know how far out you had your decoys set but most of those birds were over your decoy pattern and looked well in range, the chokes you were using were perfect for decoyed pigeons, If I can make a suggestion, try a couple of boxes of 28g 7/7.5 you will be surprised at how well they kill at 30-40 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkid Posted March 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Morkin said: Hello we can all say what you should have done but I think you done well especially decoying pigeon in like that alot of people can't get them in that close . The only thing I have found you said about 32g cartridges are better at longer distances ?,well done mate and look forward to seeing next shot cam action. All the best. I think the reason they were decoying in so well is because they’ve been feeding on there for weeks and got to comfortable plus we was set up in between two fields with just a farmers track to set the hide up on so was out in the open which didn’t seem to put them of were back over there tomorrow so hopefully they keep coming in like they have been and get some more footage to post atb Dean Edited March 4, 2021 by Newkid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 cold in the morning , so you rap up good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decoy1979 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 A very honest video which has helped pass the time on a night shift, I look forward to seeing the results of your next outing. We all miss and the more you get out there the more you'll learn, I don't get to hung up over choke personally and wouldn't fault your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotkam Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) Without doubt there were a few nice shots there. The main fault with your shooting style is that you regularly stop your swing, I can see this is the case as the lead diminishes just before the shot is taken. Possibly because you subconsciously look at the gun to check lead before taking the shot. Some good shots were taken using swing through (ST). I see you favour maintained lead (ML)and this proved effective on several closer birds, however often due to the ML method you did not learn the line of the bird and missed off line. I shoot a lot with maintained lead, but it takes a lot of practice to follow the line. Nothing wrong with a hybrid between 2 methods - pull away (PA) ( you learn speed and line) into ML, as it is clear you favour that method. I would try out on some clays. Remember ML can require double the lead of PA or ST depending on gun speed. I enjoyed seeing some shooting and you did a good job protecting the crop.😀 Edited March 5, 2021 by Shotkam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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