marsh man Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 I can well remember a similar incident we had in my old village many years ago . Just about everyone was on a low income and helped each other out with things like holding a harvest festival at the church with the contents going to the old and needy and organising Christmas parties ect . Anyhow , a piece of rough land was given to the village so it could be made into a play area for the kids , we all done bits and pieces in clearing the ground and made it all level , a few swings and small roundabouts were put up and in time everywhere looked clean and tidy , then one day the sad news broke out that the travellers have gone on the land with there caravans , straight away there was uproar and the villagers asked the council to get them off , time they got the paperwork and nailed it on the gate the damage was done and the locals wasn't prepared to wait seven days , or something like that before they by law had to get off . One of the locals who ran a scrap yard for old cars had a digger that he had recently used on clearing the site , he had no more to do and went and asked them to get off or he would tow them off with the digger , at first they just laughed and told him to f off , so he did and five minutes later he came back with the digger and one or two of his mates , he then reversed up to the nearest caravan , off he get and started to get the chains out when the chap came out and said he was now going , then he moved on to the next one and the same thing happened again , this went on till they all moved off and peace was restored. P S ... I must add that the digger driver and his fellow helpers were not the sort of people to argue with and the dwellers knew they were on a loser , there caravans were there pride and joy and didn't want them damaged by a digger , action then was a lot louder than words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 18 hours ago, Walker570 said: Excellent and absolutely NO COMPARISON to the garbage that destroyed the statue. Part of their defence was that they didn't destroy the statue but increased it's value from £6k to £300k (auction estimate). Mad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfish Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 Please remember our legal system has nothing to do with truth or fairness it is an adversarial process, hence we have advocates, it is about who has the best argument and nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted February 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, marsh man said: I can well remember a similar incident we had in my old village many years ago . Just about everyone was on a low income and helped each other out with things like holding a harvest festival at the church with the contents going to the old and needy and organising Christmas parties ect . Anyhow , a piece of rough land was given to the village so it could be made into a play area for the kids , we all done bits and pieces in clearing the ground and made it all level , a few swings and small roundabouts were put up and in time everywhere looked clean and tidy , then one day the sad news broke out that the travellers have gone on the land with there caravans , straight away there was uproar and the villagers asked the council to get them off , time they got the paperwork and nailed it on the gate the damage was done and the locals wasn't prepared to wait seven days , or something like that before they by law had to get off . One of the locals who ran a scrap yard for old cars had a digger that he had recently used on clearing the site , he had no more to do and went and asked them to get off or he would tow them off with the digger , at first they just laughed and told him to f off , so he did and five minutes later he came back with the digger and one or two of his mates , he then reversed up to the nearest caravan , off he get and started to get the chains out when the chap came out and said he was now going , then he moved on to the next one and the same thing happened again , this went on till they all moved off and peace was restored. P S ... I must add that the digger driver and his fellow helpers were not the sort of people to argue with and the dwellers knew they were on a loser , there caravans were there pride and joy and didn't want them damaged by a digger , action then was a lot louder than words Interesting. I am surprised they did not set the kids on him. Not much you can do when half a dozen snotty five to ten year olds come at you with sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 He should have called the police and let them deal with it, so for me he was guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, ordnance said: He should have called the police and let them deal with it, so for me he was guilty. I think that would be a civil case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 Yes, I was still in the job back then when a young man thought he would impress his new girlfriend by driving upthe side of some 'seeds' basically for those not aware these are a grass clover mix sown for making high quality hay. The farmer who was actually a Special Constable as well as a friend happened to see this and drove up the opposite side of the hedge and accidentally hit the discharge button on his side discharge slurry sprayer. The young man happened to be driving a nice new drop head motor and this was mid summer. I saw the car and it was full to the brim. No further action, farmer was obviously totally unaware of the presence of the car and knocking the lever was acciental. Case closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfish Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 43 minutes ago, ordnance said: He should have called the police and let them deal with it, so for me he was guilty. Car blocking a gateway, Police would have laughed at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Goldfish said: Car blocking a gateway, Police would have laughed at him The police would laugh at someone trespassing on private property, and allegedly assaulting the property owner 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, ordnance said: The police would laugh at someone trespassing on private property, and allegedly assaulting the property owner 🤔 How long is the farmer supposed to wait for the police to possibly arrive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mice! said: How long is the farmer supposed to wait for the police to possibly arrive? You could ask that every time someone rings the police, its not a good reason not to call them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffryn Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 nice to see some common sense by the courts for once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, ordnance said: He should have called the police and let them deal with it, so for me he was guilty. They would not have come out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: They would not have come out! They’d of given him a crime number though, what else would he need? 🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: They would not have come out! A man allegedly assaulted by people trespassing on private property, and the police would not have responded Edited February 5, 2022 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, ordnance said: A man allegedly assaulted by people trespassing private property, and the police would not have responded No they wouldn't it is rural, turn up time is measured in days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: No they wouldn't it is rural, turn up time is measured in days! That's the point, probably not a copper within 50 miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: No they wouldn't it is rural, turn up time is measured in days! You can't possibly know how long it would have taken them to respond. Do know how many police were on duty that day, how busy they were, if any were in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 14 hours ago, ordnance said: He should have called the police and let them deal with it, so for me he was guilty. I read somewhere that this was a route already well travelled by this particular farmer . He'd called the police on several previous occasions, but as is quite normal in these cases , he got zero response from the police( not knocking the police , they can't be everywhere at once) . In this instance , he approached the guy that was stopping him from working , and got assaulted. The farmer felt that he had no other choice than to( defend) deal with the issue himself. Looking to the future , I can see many more of these types of incidents. As the police become less able ( for many many reasons) to protect the population , it will fail to the population to protect itself . Laws will be changed , or as in this case , older laws will be brought back into play . As we seem to edge closer and closer to a lawless society , I can only assume that society will become the new law . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 12 hours ago, ordnance said: You can't possibly know how long it would have taken them to respond. Do know how many police were on duty that day, how busy they were, if any were in that area. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Are you being deliberately obtuse? Perhaps it was his car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfish Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 We can't get the police to attend abandoned stolen cars, not a hope they would attend a car blocking a gateway. How many cars block driveways and park in no parking areas in the UK every day, not a hope. Parking like an idiot isn't a crime, you wouldn't even get an incident number let alone a crime number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 I remember when i was working and we used to call the police on 999 (Quite a few times a week ) and they would say there busy and would get there when they could often 2/3 days later , Scarey when your guys are on the end of a radio and have caught somebody breaking in , or stealing stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPhantom Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Think this answers the question as to why he didn’t phone the police (taken from the Mail article). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 19 hours ago, Goldfish said: Car blocking a gateway, Police would have laughed at him Don't make me laugh. It would have been a civvy or a recorded message answering the phone anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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