Wiltspaniel Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 I bought my first shotgun last weekend and sent off the email to the police (Hampshire) through their website the same day. Is it normal to hear nothing back, apart from the automated response, as a confirmation that they have registered the shotgun in my name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Shot Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Yes. I've not heard anything back for any purchases I've made and notified my force about. It's good practice to scan the transfer letter, send it via email to your FAO office and include a recieved and read receipt. Print all of these out once done and store for safe keeping. You then have proof that you notified them come renewal time when the inevitable happens and they fail to record your purchase. I renewed earlier this year as a part of a FAC application and got to use the backup to prove a serial number mistake was made by the RFD and not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 I never use only email, even with read receipts. I always send recorded delivery too! Just don’t trust it enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Wiltspaniel said: I bought my first shotgun last weekend and sent off the email to the police (Hampshire) through their website the same day. Is it normal to hear nothing back, apart from the automated response, as a confirmation that they have registered the shotgun in my name? i all ways do it by email, you just get a number back to say you sent it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windswept Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Wiltspaniel said: I bought my first shotgun last weekend and sent off the email to the police (Hampshire) through their website the same day. Is it normal to hear nothing back, apart from the automated response, as a confirmation that they have registered the shotgun in my name? Yes. Apart from automated responses, which are not always sent, I've never had confirmation my records have been updated. I gather that it can take months for the details to actually make it into your electronic certificate record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 A friend recently sold a shotgun and had to notify Avon and Somerset. Interestingly A&S have an on-line system where you complete all necessary details, submit and then complete the process by saving &/or printing a pdf copy for your own records. No worries about lost documents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 Staffordshire is all online. Get an automated confirmation that shows all the details iirc. I print everything off and keep hard copies in the gun safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 Online is the way forward, all digital, with logs, it's instant and you get a printable confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 I keep the original e-mail notification and the automated response. It shows what you have notified and it has been received. No problems with GMP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 Leicestershire is the same , Automated reply only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 Keep a paper trail with dates to back you up if needed because you will be in the wrong if the poo hits the fan. Several years ago, i bought a brand new rifle (a 45-70 lever gun) which proved to be faulty so it went back to Edgar Bros. They sent out another rifle which works just fine. Each time, i notified my licensing dept of firearm disposal/acquisition as required but for some reason they didn't register the last email informing them of the replacement and it was hanging around in cyberspace with no official owner for four weeks. Only thing which saved me was i printed every single email acknowledgement from themselves. I sent paper letters too-and printed copies for my own records. Im anally retentive about procedure and wont give anyone the opportunity to lever me with blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 I don’t think I’ve ever received acknowledgment of notification. Sent a letter of notice of a sale about 4 wks ago and haven’t received anything back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 For the OP, Hampshire is online only. to do it any other way actually slows the process as it’s set up for online. Doing it multiple times will just cause delays for everyone. the seller does it also so you have that as a backup as well. I get that it can go wrong but there’ll ultimately be an audit trail from two sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 I'm in Cumbria and for a few years I have notified them by e-mail and have always had an e-mail back from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 Reading the above posts got me thinking , I bought a shotgun from the auction last Saturday , the lady in the office done all the paper work , copied my s g c , put on the new gun and number and handed it back with the receipt for my payment , until I just read the above I hadn't gave it another thought , the question is , do I have to inform the firearm department in my local police force about my new purchase ? THANKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, marsh man said: Reading the above posts got me thinking , I bought a shotgun from the auction last Saturday , the lady in the office done all the paper work , copied my s g c , put on the new gun and number and handed it back with the receipt for my payment , until I just read the above I hadn't gave it another thought , the question is , do I have to inform the firearm department in my local police force about my new purchase ? THANKS Yes, you are obliged to notify your certificate issuing force within 7 days. Section 33 of the 1997 Act requires that, within seven days of the transaction, the transferor and transferee must send, electronically (for example, by e-mail or fax) or by recorded or special delivery, notification to the chief officers of police who issued their own certificates. The transferor is the person who originally possessed the gun, and the transferee is the recipient (and it is the transferor who must write the details of the gun and its transfer onto the certificate of the transferee). The notice of the transaction must contain a description of the firearm or shotgun (including any identification number), state the nature of the transaction and give the name and address of the other person concerned. Quote: Notification of transfers involving firearms. 33. - (1) This section applies where in Great Britain- (a) any firearm to which section 1 of the 1968 Act applies is sold, let on hire, lent or given; (b) any shot gun is sold, let on hire or given, or lent for a period of more than 72 hours. (2) Any party to a transfer to which this section applies who is the holder of a firearm or shot gun certificate or, as the case may be, a visitor's firearm or shot gun permit which relates to the firearm in question shall within seven days of the transfer give notice to the chief officer of police who granted his certificate or permit. (3) A notice required by subsection (2) above shall- (a) contain a description of the firearm in question (giving its identification number if any); and (b) state the nature of the transaction and the name and address of the other party; and any such notice shall be sent by registered post or the recorded delivery service. (4) A failure by a party to a transaction to which this section applies to give the notice required by this section shall be an offence. So, not notifying is an offence. Edited October 15, 2022 by HantsRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, HantsRob said: Yes, you are obliged to notify your certificate issuing force within 7 days. Section 33 of the 1997 Act requires that, within seven days of the transaction, the transferor and transferee must send, electronically (for example, by e-mail or fax) or by recorded or special delivery, notification to the chief officers of police who issued their own certificates. The transferor is the person who originally possessed the gun, and the transferee is the recipient (and it is the transferor who must write the details of the gun and its transfer onto the certificate of the transferee). The notice of the transaction must contain a description of the firearm or shotgun (including any identification number), state the nature of the transaction and give the name and address of the other person concerned. Quote: Notification of transfers involving firearms. 33. - (1) This section applies where in Great Britain- (a) any firearm to which section 1 of the 1968 Act applies is sold, let on hire, lent or given; (b) any shot gun is sold, let on hire or given, or lent for a period of more than 72 hours. (2) Any party to a transfer to which this section applies who is the holder of a firearm or shot gun certificate or, as the case may be, a visitor's firearm or shot gun permit which relates to the firearm in question shall within seven days of the transfer give notice to the chief officer of police who granted his certificate or permit. (3) A notice required by subsection (2) above shall- (a) contain a description of the firearm in question (giving its identification number if any); and (b) state the nature of the transaction and the name and address of the other party; and any such notice shall be sent by registered post or the recorded delivery service. (4) A failure by a party to a transaction to which this section applies to give the notice required by this section shall be an offence. So, not notifying is an offence. Wow THANKS for that , I will try and get it sorted out on line tomorrow or give them a ring Monday , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 The advantage with emails you can request both a sent and read receipt, these are kept on record if you ever need them, like when they tell you that they did not receive anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltspaniel Posted October 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 Thanks everyone, this has put my mind at ease a little! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Dougy said: The advantage with emails you can request both a sent and read receipt, these are kept on record if you ever need them, like when they tell you that they did not receive anything. To be fair, a reference number generated by a database would be far more reliable than email systems that often block read receipts from a shared mailbox. I’m addition an sql entry is far more reliable to trace than an email that once deleted and 6 months passes is almost impossible to trace. recorded mail delivery only states a sorting office or reception received it in a police station. It doesn’t mean the intended recipient received it. Also it means they received some mail, it doesn’t show you sent anything apart from the envelope. for once I’d say trust technology a bit better than post or email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, HantsRob said: for once I’d say trust technology a bit better than post or email. This, embrace the technology, on this it is your friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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