Here comes Boris

[Dave-G]

I imagine the 'Sunak' financial establishment will score millions more with insider trading as they'll undoubtedly have advance knowledge of any changes laughing boy makes.

[oowee]

3 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

I imagine the 'Sunak' financial establishment will score millions more with insider trading as they'll undoubtedly have advance knowledge of any changes laughing boy makes.

Why would you think that? Surely Boris was much more likely to have a sloppy mouth? 

[discobob]

Didn't I hear that Rishi's dad was in competition with one of our biggest defence contractors Rolls Royce? Surely that must be conflict there

[Minky]

It's all over now so let's look forward.   They say that a week is a long time in politics and the next election could be as long away as January 2025.!  So there is 2years and a month before one HAS to be called. Starmer and his sub corbenites will foam at the mouth and jump up and down AND Kranky  and the fat boy will mumble about ref 2 BUT that's all they can do.  Just because Rishi is of foriegn origin doesn't mean that he can't or won't do a good job.  All parties have their different factions and no doubt there will be some that will want to stab him in the back.  On the news they said that King Charles is in London tomorrow so  Rishi might be able to slip round for a handshake and the keys.  SO  Come on everyone, you can't change anything about anything so lets all TRY to sing off the same sheet and tread the media and liebor.  God help us if liebor get in.  The General public are mindless sheep and would vote for the man in the moon or the monster ravin loonies.

[oowee]

Its so refreshing to see a screen full of green numbers instead of red. 

[Dave-G]

10 minutes ago, oowee said:

Why would you think that? Surely Boris was much more likely to have a sloppy mouth? 

 There's a lot of difference between a sloppy mouth and having £millions splashing about ready to exploit a little nod from the husband/son in law. 

[Scully]

45 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said:

I didn't say people losing their lives physically, how could a budget cause that in the short term!!  You make things up to suit your narrative.  Millions of people will be effected by mortgage rates rises and if Pension funds had collapsed that could have effected millions in a huge way.  Anyone in the country is effected by the value of the pound if they buy imported goods and everyone in the country is effected by inflation.  Of course Johnson's return would have negatively impacted the markets, the man is a liability.    

You made the claim that millions of lives were put at risk! Not me! Now you’re asking me how that could happen and it’s me who’s making things up!? 😀

Really? Are you for real? You’ve made up the part about Boris lying about the number of backers he had, and also the part where you’re claiming he was responsible for however the FTSE was effected, but also claim it is effected by political uncertainty, so there’s your explanation, with or without Boris. Do you really have any idea what you’re talking about? 

I’ve been through a recession plus redundancy whilst having a mortgage and two young children, and yes, it was a struggle, and I was ‘effected’ as you’ve now changed your claim to, but I never felt my life or that of anyone I knew was at risk! That’s purely down to your own hysterics! 
I pay more for fuel to run my vehicle and more for the energy to heat my home, but they’ve always gone up and always will, and I can cut back on either to a certain extent, but I can’t say any of it has a negative impact on my life because I don’t let it. There’s nothing I can do about it so why would I let it bother me? 

[JohnfromUK]

7 minutes ago, discobob said:

Didn't I hear that Rishi's dad was in competition with one of our biggest defence contractors Rolls Royce? Surely that must be conflict there

Rishi's father is a doctor, so unlikely.  His father in law has a big Indian IT and IT consutancy company (Infosys).  It is possible they compete in some small areas with Rolls Royce, but IT is not Rolls Royce's main business.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, I wonder why Mordant dropped out, 🤔

[Scully]

1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said:

Rishi's father is a doctor, so unlikely.  His father in law has a big Indian IT and IT consutancy company (Infosys).  It is possible they compete in some small areas with Rolls Royce, but IT is not Rolls Royce's main business.

And Sunak is pro Brexit, so he can’t be all bad! 🙂

[JohnfromUK]

Just now, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, I wonder why Mordant dropped out, 🤔

I guess didn't make the 100 needed?

[oldypigeonpopper]

1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said:

I guess didn't make the 100 needed?

Hello, that maybe so or has been offered a position in the Sunak government, 🤔

[Weihrauch17]

1 minute ago, Scully said:

You made the claim that millions of lives were put at risk! Not me! Now you’re asking me how that could happen and it’s me who’s making things up!? 😀

Really? Are you for real? You’ve made up the part about Boris lying about the number of backers he had, and also the part where you’re claiming he was responsible for however the FTSE was effected, but also claim it is effected by political uncertainty, so there’s your explanation, with or without Boris. Do you really have any idea what you’re talking about? 

I’ve been through a recession plus redundancy whilst having a mortgage and two young children, and yes, it was a struggle, and I was ‘effected’ as you’ve now changed your claim to, but I never felt my life or that of anyone I knew was at risk! That’s purely down to your own hysterics! 
I pay more for fuel to run my vehicle and more for the energy to heat my home, but they’ve always gone up and always will, and I can cut back on either to a certain extent, but I can’t say any of it has a negative impact on my life because I don’t let it. There’s nothing I can do about it so why would I let it bother me? 

I said the budget would effect millions of peoples lives negatively which it did, I never said millions of people were going to die!!  I also stated that markets would go up on the news that Johnson had withdrawn and they have.  I never stated he was responsible for the crisis after the mini budget.  TBH Scully I can't be bothered having anymore dialogue with you, you live in another world.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, any feedback from the Labour party ?

[JohnfromUK]

4 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, that maybe so or has been offered a position in the Sunak government, 🤔

I imagine she will be offered a (good) position because if he is to 'unite' the party, keep her on side will be the deal.

[Scully]

2 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said:

I said the budget would effect millions of peoples lives negatively which it did, I never said millions of people were going to die!!  I also stated that markets would go up on the news that Johnson had withdrawn and they have.  I never stated he was responsible for the crisis after the mini budget.  TBH Scully I can't be bothered having anymore dialogue with you, you live in another world.

I’m not surprised you can’t be bothered, it can’t be much fun having your contradictions and stuff you make up pointed out to you.
You said millions ( or some other hysterical number ) of lives would be put at risk; have a look it’s probably still there, I can’t be bothered. 

I live in the real world; and not one where politicians cause bouts of bed wetting by those who can’t get a grip and think they’re owed something. 

[Mice!]

1 hour ago, oowee said:

Yes they do. Because the Govt borrowing rates have risen we are paying more debt. Govt has to tax more and or spend less. Waiting lists get longer and education gets worse. More crime shorter life expectancy. 

Mortgage rates rose prematurely because of poor messaging and economics from the Tories. 

The thing us, that's the same as normal really,  budget cuts, waiting lists are already/always long and never seem to reduce.

We're spending billions on the Ukraine,  as much no doubt in foreign aid, illegal immigration costs a fortune, the figures involved just mount up.

Not sure how it leads to more crime or a shorter life expectancy though?

Labour will want to come in, borrow borrow borrow using the magic money tree and throw money around simply increasing the debt, not reducing anything. 

[discobob]

22 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

Rishi's father is a doctor, so unlikely.  His father in law has a big Indian IT and IT consutancy company (Infosys).  It is possible they compete in some small areas with Rolls Royce, but IT is not Rolls Royce's main business.

There may have been shares in the dowry

apologies - but I meant FIL

They are apparently in a "partnership" (RR and Infosys)

[JohnfromUK]

5 minutes ago, discobob said:

They are apparently in a "partnership" (RR and Infosys)

That is quite possible.  Infosys is a HUGE company 275,000 employees and Mrs Sunak's father was a founder.  He and his family still own a minority stake of around 5% I believe.

[Rim Fire]

32 minutes ago, Mice! said:

Labour will want to come in, borrow borrow borrow using the magic money tree and throw money around simply increasing the debt, not reducing anything.

Do you really think the tories are reducing the debt at this moment 

[amateur]

Starmer the next PM?

[JohnfromUK]

47 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

I imagine she will be offered a (good) position because if he is to 'unite' the party, keep her on side will be the deal.

Rumours in the press that she may get the Foreign Office, Jeremy Hunt remain  as Chancellor, and Suella Braverman (possibly) come back at the Home Office again.  Just rumours as yet.

[Yellow Bear]

2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

Rumours in the press that she may get the Foreign Office, Jeremy Hunt remain  as Chancellor, and Suella Braverman (possibly) come back at the Home Office again.  Just rumours as yet.

If true all well and good, however we need rid of Hunt.

There will also be a few "twitching" at the home office having, I suspect deliberately,  stabbed her in the back.

[Mice!]

21 minutes ago, Rim Fire said:

Do you really think the tories are reducing the debt at this moment 

No not at all, but while Sunak may well try to reduce spending,  Labour will be shouting loads a money, they never seem concerned at all that the debt figure is increasing. 

What was the note they left last time, all the moneys gone, something along those lines??

 

[Scully]

21 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

Rumours in the press that she may get the Foreign Office, Jeremy Hunt remain  as Chancellor, and Suella Braverman (possibly) come back at the Home Office again.  Just rumours as yet.

I’d like to see Suella Braverman as Home Secretary; I like the sound of her and she has unfinished business there.