12gauge82 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Appoliges for mentioning the B word again but..... Apparently there's a remainer plot to reverse the direction Boris took us and attempt to bring our rules to closer alignment with the EUs, including trade and European Court. What it proves is removing BJ and LT was a remainer plot all along. I was going to anyway but it'll be reform for me at the next election, the Tories, or anyone else for that matter simply can't be trusted on Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicblue Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 There are polls that suggest public opinion is changing: WhatUKThinks Poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P08 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 I don't like the idea, Public opinion is changing, It was voted for, end of matter, my take the whole world is in turmoil, not just this country, clearly the dross have surfaced blaming the countries woes on brexit. get educated even Germany is in recession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Hunt and Sunak will try there best to get us back in the back door! its making my p--- boil no one voted for this. Reform for me too, I do not trust any of the so called politicians, just lining third own pockets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 56 minutes ago, Cosmicblue said: There are polls that suggest public opinion is changing: WhatUKThinks Poll What a load of nonsense, we had a national poll called the referendum, end of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 AS above. VOTE REFORM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Cosmicblue said: There are polls that suggest public opinion is changing: WhatUKThinks Poll If brexit hasn’t turned out the way people hoped, they’re quite within their rights to change their minds on the the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, P08 said: not just this country, clearly the dross have surfaced blaming the countries woes on brexit. get educated even Germany is in recession. No amount of ‘education’ will cure cognitive dissonance. EU good, anything UK does bad. Even when confronted with some objective measure or even an opposing view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 50 minutes ago, Walker570 said: AS above. VOTE REFORM Unfortunately vote Reform will mean a Rayner/Stammer Labour government. We all know who will then be making most of the decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just remember a vote for Labour is a vote for Diana Abbott LOL i wouldn't let her walk my dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 27 minutes ago, owain said: If brexit hasn’t turned out the way people hoped, they’re quite within their rights to change their minds on the the matter. , Brexit was never going to be short term gains, it was always a long term vote. Saying it isn't working after less than 2 years is an absolute joke, especially with everything else going on in the World. As has been mentioned not just on this thread but many others when Brexit is blamed for the UK's woes - it's funny how Brexit is causing the same problems worldwide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, Rem260 said: Unfortunately vote Reform will mean a Rayner/Stammer Labour government. We all know who will then be making most of the decisions. But would we notice the difference, in terms of economic policy at least? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, udderlyoffroad said: But would we notice the difference, in terms of economic policy at least? your wallet would - in Rayner's eyes anyone with a job paying more than minimum wage is rich and should be taxed heavily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: your wallet would - in Rayner's eyes anyone with a job paying more than minimum wage is rich and should be taxed heavily except for her and her peers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: , Brexit was never going to be short term gains, it was always a long term vote. Saying it isn't working after less than 2 years is an absolute joke, especially with everything else going on in the World. As has been mentioned not just on this thread but many others when Brexit is blamed for the UK's woes - it's funny how Brexit is causing the same problems worldwide. Quite, but the vote itself was 6 years ago. If popular opinion was to lean towards another vote, then surely that should be the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: But would we notice the difference, in terms of economic policy at least? This, the line that separates Labour and tory policy is so blurry in places its getting hard to tell which is which. 16 minutes ago, owain said: Quite, but the vote itself was 6 years ago. If popular opinion was to lean towards another vote, then surely that should be the case? The cons were elected with the manifesto pledge to deliver brexit and get it done, nothing has changed, including the remainers who still wish to overturn democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, owain said: Quite, but the vote itself was 6 years ago. Quite, that's the problem. Remainers spent all that time trying to overturn the vote. Still is the problem, too many in Parliament that don't want Brexit to succeed, and want back in at any cost. These people are delusional. 30 minutes ago, owain said: If popular opinion was to lean towards another vote, then surely that should be the case? Absolutely not. The country voted to leave the EU. We should not be getting another vote for at least the time the first referendum on membership was held, until the last one. 41 years I believe. Chin up only another 35 to go. At least by that time, Brexit would have had a chance. Edited November 21, 2022 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Quite, that's the problem. Remainers spent all that time trying to overturn the vote. Still is the problem, too many in Parliament that don't want Brexit to succeed, and want back in at any cost. These people are delusional. Absolutely not. The country voted to leave the EU. We should not be getting another vote for at least the time the first referendum on membership was held, until the last one. 41 years I believe. Chin up only another 35 to go. The vote was to leave, and we left. I’m not sure what all the big fuss is about. All I’m saying is that if people were to change their minds then they should be allowed to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: your wallet would - in Rayner's eyes anyone with a job paying more than minimum wage is rich and should be taxed heavily Again, what's the difference in approach between Rayner and the current occupier of no 11? Other than slightly better taste formal footwear. 24 minutes ago, owain said: Quite, but the vote itself was 6 years ago. If popular opinion was to lean towards another vote, then surely that should be the case? Cough once in a generation cough. In-out hokey-cokey just isn't practicable for anyone. In any case certain commissioners have made it quite clear that there would have to be 'consequences' for rejoining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, owain said: The vote was to leave, and we left. I’m not sure what all the big fuss is about. All I’m saying is that if people were to change their minds then they should be allowed to do so. OK, sure they can, but they shouldn't get the chance of another vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: OK, sure they can, but they shouldn't get the chance of another vote. How awfully democratic of you 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, owain said: How awfully democratic of you 😂 Not this ridiculous argument again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, owain said: Quite, but the vote itself was 6 years ago. If popular opinion was to lean towards another vote, then surely that should be the case? Why would there ever be another vote? The Country voted OUT, we are out and things will take time to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, owain said: The vote was to leave, and we left. I’m not sure what all the big fuss is about. All I’m saying is that if people were to change their minds then they should be allowed to do so. We couldn't even if we wanted to, we would not be able to rejoin under the same terms, but that's irrelevant anyway. Anyone trying to rejoin at this point is simply trying to subvert democracy. Theres few things simple in life but this one is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Calm down dears 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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