DazAllison Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 Hi all, new to shooting a 20b so looking for some advice to recommend carts for mainly walked up rough shooting, something to cope with most quarry throughout the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr grumpy Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 Eley grand prix.25 gram 6's.you will be pleasently surprised at the knock down power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 sipe are good as well hit like hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, mossy835 said: sipe are good as well hit like hell. Sadly, Lyalvale have missed a trick here as unlike 12 bore they don't do 6&1/2 (2.5mm) shot in 20 bore. Check, but I'm sure Sipe 7s are 2.5mm/UK 6&1/2s which negates 'all at 6s and 7s'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 hour ago, mossy835 said: sipe are good as well hit like hell. Agree. A good knockdown cartridge for any ‘going away’ quarry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
222mark Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 The best i ever used in eighteen years of shooting only a 20bore was Saga cartridges. Pal wad, 6 shot. From Teal to Canada's , even foxes. They really are the best if you can get hold of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 hour ago, mossy835 said: sipe are good as well hit like hell. Totally agree. Before I sold my last 20 bore, I only used RC Sipe 28 gram 6s on the pigeons and they certainly did the business as long as I did my bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 Hill high pheasant 25/6 RC Sipe 26/6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 get the cheapest fiocchi 25g f/w no6 brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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enfieldspares Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 My late father when at Woburn and Kedleston used nothing but Eley Alphamax one ounce of English #5. Fibre wad. I also used it when I inherited his 20 bore side by side (26" barrels 2 3/4" chambers by G E Lewis) and that cartridge killed far better than any load of English #6 notwithstanding the low shot count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: My late father when at Woburn and Kedleston used nothing but Eley Alphamax one ounce of English #5. Fibre wad. I also used it when I inherited his 20 bore side by side (26" barrels 2 3/4" chambers by G E Lewis) and that cartridge killed far better than any load of English #6 notwithstanding the low shot count. Were you comparing them with Grand Prix 6s by any chance? Could hear them strike over the decoys so not long range but the birds flew on unconcerned and showed no sign of distress until they could be seen no more in the distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 The other 20 Bore cartridges he used were the 20 bore Grand Prix equivalent, as it were, which was called Eley 20 Bore and had 13/16ths ounce of shot. Which he also used English #5. But yes I think the "20" is one where either #7 or #5 work best and that #6 supposed the best of both (patterns like a seven hits like a five) is actually the worst of both. Poor pattern compared to #7 and poor striking power compared to #5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas seal Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 Hi DasAllison . If you are shooting anywhere were lead shot isn’t allowed or shooting birds that aren’t allowed to be shot with lead you will need non lead cartridges in any gauge. I use Eley 20gauge steel cartridges with bio wads in four and seven shot , l don’t use any lead pellets in my 20gauge . if you need to use steel cartridges you could try Eley . More steel cartridges are now available with bio wads. Also consider the recoil of the cartridges. I found the Eley cartridges have less recoil and are quieter than some of the other steel cartridges available. Good luck with your 20gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 Eley are very popular on BIG shoot. I seem to pick up more of those in 20 than any other brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 4 hours ago, wymberley said: Were you comparing them with Grand Prix 6s by any chance? Could hear them strike over the decoys so not long range but the birds flew on unconcerned and showed no sign of distress until they could be seen no more in the distance. If you hear pellets striking a bird you have only hit wing feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 10 hours ago, London Best said: If you hear pellets striking a bird you have only hit wing feathers. That may well be true apart from the, "only". It does make sense (apart from the, "only") but I can't be sure as far too many small fast jets have not done my hearing any good. However, the frequency of occurrence at relatively short range makes this unlikely and particularly as you'd expect some sign of distress when there was none especially when I finally changed cartridges mid session and it stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 03/09/2023 at 13:03, Fargo said: Hill high pheasant 25/6 RC Sipe 26/6 These, nothing else needed. The Sipes punchier with the High Pheasant super smooth and what I use 90% of the time through 20 and 28 bores (pigeon shooting mostly) I’d take the Sipes if I was going pheasant shooting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo yorks Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Depends what I can get but the gamebore blackgolds are decent. Hull high phesant extreme are phenomenal cartridges but pricey Rc sipe are also nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktattoo Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 personally like the eley vip cartridges shoot 28gr 6's or 30gr 5's had many a pheasant with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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