samboy Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 I had 3 covid jabs when it all started and wont be having any more. I also won't be having any flu, shingle or any other jabs. I have enough poison in me as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, team tractor said: I won’t be . 42 this year and I’m done with it. I’ve had covid twice and ended up on steroids to keep me breathing but my cousin now has a heart issue after the jab at 27 years old . im asthmatic . a lad in my street has covid the 4th time now and scaring on his lungs . speaking to Mel b yesterday and he’s still struggling with the after affects Doubt I will have the covid jab, been fairly fit and healthy with a good immune system most my life, that was until I had first lot covid jabs, it may or may not of been the trigger but I ended up with a high blood inflammatory count (polymyalgia) then after my last booster I developed inflammatory arthritis in my wrists and shoulders, no history of either in my paternal or maternal side. Coincidence, I don’t know but I think I will take the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimo22 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 So we had our vacation couple of weeks ago, 3 days later I started to get what I thought was a cold. Last Sunday was feeling rough so did a test and had got covid for the first time. It has been like a really bad cold with sore throat and headaches. Still testing positive today but line is getting fainter , I am sure that we picked it up at the vaccination clinic because we had not really been anywhere else. Been a real pain as with this lovely weather we want to get out, but at least should be ok the start beating week on Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 Not having my first COVID jab let alone a booster!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 Had all that I was supposed to have. Never had Covid until January of this year. Was like flu, first night slept for 17+ hours. Lost taste and smell for 2 weeks, then back to normal. Undecided whether I will have the one I have just been invited to have. Had my flu jab last Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, team tractor said: I won’t be . 42 this year and I’m done with it. I’ve had covid twice and ended up on steroids to keep me breathing but my cousin now has a heart issue after the jab at 27 years old . im asthmatic . a lad in my street has covid the 4th time now and scaring on his lungs . speaking to Mel b yesterday and he’s still struggling with the after affects You can request it for it to be jabbed in the buttocks if that will sway you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 Roughly the same number for , fore and aganist , I thought after last year when I under the weather for a few days that was it , no more , now a year later I was thinking , is it better to have a few days off colour , or if I catch it I could be laid up for a good while . Touch wood I have never spent a night in hospital so I think the odds are slightly in my favour by having it . I will let you know how it went . MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 6 hours ago, strimmer_13 said: You can request it for it to be jabbed in the buttocks if that will sway you? Internal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 I would suggest you all watch and listen to the 2 guys in this video link before making your minds up. If the link wont work for you, Go to You tube and put in the name Dr John Campbell and then choose the podcast with professor Dalgleish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Pushkin said: watch and listen to the 2 guys in this video link When you watch and listen, do bear in mind that Dr. John Campbell has a reputation for being "misleading" and "inaccurate" with "false reasoning". https://healthfeedback.org/authors/john-campbell/ A recent investigation by the BBC "More or Less" team found his claims to be false. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gj8frd They reported that when he was challenged, he took down his claims. I believe he isn't in fact a medical Dr. at all, but was a nurse. He has apparently a PhD in nursing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: When you watch and listen, do bear in mind that Dr. John Campbell has a reputation for being "misleading" and "inaccurate" with "false reasoning". https://healthfeedback.org/authors/john-campbell/ A recent investigation by the BBC "More or Less" team found his claims to be false. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gj8frd They reported that when he was challenged, he took down his claims. I believe he isn't in fact a medical Dr. at all, but was a nurse. He has apparently a PhD in nursing. You seriously believe the BBC????? They harboured saville for years ..would that not tell you the types that work there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, tweedledee said: You seriously believe the BBC? If they (and in fact the BBC presented an 'independent' investigation) were so wrong, why did Campbell admit he had used a 3rd parties figures and wasn't a statistician, so hadn't done them himself. He then removed the claim that had been investigated. Do your own research, believe what you like. I do not believe Campbell. Edited October 9, 2023 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 13 hours ago, team tractor said: Internal? I'm sure there's a oral solution as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratlegs Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Had a Shingles 8 weeks ago woke up in night eyes burning discharge not driven since been to opticians eyes perfect feeling very tired had mri scan clear, waiting to see what's next Scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 JohnfromUK, thats fair comment John, I wasnt aware of Dr Campbell being outed as a disinformer - and given the BBCs reputation I will not rush to beleive them about him but will remain wary. However, Professor Dalgleish Has never to my lnowledge been a disinformer. If anything he has continued to be a consistant and unshakable forward thinker on many aspects of health, in particular - the work done on Cancer for which I beleive he is one of the world's foremost. Even within the WHO and the other larger conurbations who are involved in the Covid vaccine supply and purity - there are detractors of his opinions but, he is not the one making millions from supplying a vaccine which has now proven to be as damaging as what it is meant to cure. Proffesor Dalgleish points out the fact that he initiated an innoculation based on e-Coli that on the small scale proved its effectiveness but they just po poheed his results and told him to do a bigger trial (In the millions???) I brought this forward to add to the knowledge we already know about the damage covid innoculation has done to many people, deaths ,as well as to our continuing survival. But who gains in all this? Results are now strengthening that it is having adverse results, The incidents of heart issues is one in particular that interests me (My sister almost died from the side effects that hit her after receiving her booster shot.) We all need to remain open minded about facts behind the drugs use.. Regards to all Pushkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Pushkin said: JohnfromUK, thats fair comment John, I wasnt aware of Dr Campbell being outed as a disinformer - and given the BBCs reputation I will not rush to beleive them about him but will remain wary. I suspect that Campbell (like many others) has discovered that antivax/conspiracy theories get huge followings in social media - and that translates to money coming in - BIG money. I have not researched Dalgleish at all. I take my steer largely from personal experience - and three main factors in that; A good friend had a stroke shortly after the vaccine that was 'probably' vaccine related according to his stroke specialist (and from which he has fortunately fully recovered). He continues to take vaccines as and when offered on the advise both of his Dr, his stroke specialist and a very good mutual friend who is a Dr. Both believe he has less risk of serious illness by taking the vaccine than by not taking it. My own family (including me) are all 'pro vaccine' and have all had our doses according to our ages (and I have voluntarily had the 'flu vaccine for most of my life). Two of my family are in the medical profession, my niece being a Dr in a hospital and her husband a consultant. Both have had both vaccines and covid, but mildly. The rest of the family (between 30 years old and 70 years old) have all had covid, I am the only exception who hasn't had it) and all had it mildly. Around me in my circle of locals, friends and acquaintances, the only ones who had covid badly were un-vaccinated (the majority before vaccines were around) - 3 died, all of whom were middle aged, but in otherwise good health. Many elderly (70 - 90+) I know had it after vaccination and all I can think of had covid mildly and were fine including some with other serious conditions. None have had 'long covid'. My own view therefore based on what I know from my own little bubble in life is that I think the vaccines reduce my risk of getting badly ill (covid and/or 'flu). As I say, we all do our own research and form our own opinions. However - we do need to be careful in doing 'on-line' research because there is much questionable (and worse) information out there being passed off as 'facts'. People make money that way just as the drug companies make money selling vaccines, hence my cautions! Edited October 9, 2023 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: I suspect that Campbell (like many others) has discovered that antivax/conspiracy theories get huge followings in social media - and that translates to money coming in - BIG money. Well, let's see how that plays out for Campbell going forward.https://www.techspot.com/news/78896-youtube-demonetizes-anti-vaccination-channels.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 I would suggest people make their own decisions on their healthcare, and others to mind their own business on other people's decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerforestry Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 As with ordnance above, I let others make their own decisions on these issues, though personally I have elected to not take a pretty much untrialled, untested, and emergency use injection thus far, and I won't be at any stage. Vaccines are supposed to be trialled for safety data for years, not a few weeks? I do find it frustrating to say the least that anyone countering the official narrative, or even mildly questioning it ends up ridiculed, cancelled and deplatformed - that equals George Orwell narrative, and that simply isn't a good thing, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 12 hours ago, ordnance said: I would suggest people make their own decisions on their healthcare, and others to mind their own business on other people's decisions. So you're against the deliberate suppression of information which would allow other people to make their own informed decisions? Good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 I had large B cell lymphoma [cancer] late 2020 and after several weeks in hospital and months of chemo was declared to be in remission but apparently I do still have follicular lymphoma which can morph into high grade if the fancy takes it. All that has left me with a weakened immune system so I have been advised to have Covid jabs since. Independent Beta T cell tests have shown that I may have had a form of Covid before it became popular in the UK so may have a good immune response so who knows [I was ill with a couple of very nasty viruses over the past 15 years] but up until the spring booster this year had the jab... and suffered evil side effects for a week or two after [high fevers, delirium, sickness, joint pain etc etc]. So I said enough is enough and decided not to bother in the Spring. I'm now getting reminders that as I'm classed as "vulnerable" I can now have a booster. As I am still suffering side effects of the chemo etc which can be both painful and very fatiguing so again wondering if I fancy two weeks of feeling very ill again due to having a jab. Lectures about having Covid might be worse are not required 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, serrac said: So you're against the deliberate suppression of information which would allow other people to make their own informed decisions? Good to know. Some think they are smarter than the commoners, who are not intelligent enough to do their own research and make up their own minds. PS I did not say there should be any deliberate suppression of information. 3 hours ago, Miserableolgit said: I had large B cell lymphoma [cancer] late 2020 and after several weeks in hospital and months of chemo was declared to be in remission but apparently I do still have follicular lymphoma which can morph into high grade if the fancy takes it. All that has left me with a weakened immune system so I have been advised to have Covid jabs since. Independent Beta T cell tests have shown that I may have had a form of Covid before it became popular in the UK so may have a good immune response so who knows [I was ill with a couple of very nasty viruses over the past 15 years] but up until the spring booster this year had the jab... and suffered evil side effects for a week or two after [high fevers, delirium, sickness, joint pain etc etc]. So I said enough is enough and decided not to bother in the Spring. I'm now getting reminders that as I'm classed as "vulnerable" I can now have a booster. As I am still suffering side effects of the chemo etc which can be both painful and very fatiguing so again wondering if I fancy two weeks of feeling very ill again due to having a jab. Lectures about having Covid might be worse are not required 🙂 Your choice 👍 Edited October 10, 2023 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 Had my Covid and flu 3 weeks ago, possibly saved my life! felt rough the daynafter, laid on settee most of the day. One of our Jack Russell's jumped up for a cuddle and landed Square on the old meat and 2 veg. Agony, wanted to vomit straightaway. Put my hand down and felt a lump. Panic as I was diagnosed with bladder cancer 11 years ago. Trip to docs, hospital following day. Varying scans etc. Being treated as an infection. Antibiotics for 2 weeeks, second scan tomorrow to see if there is an improvement 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞if so I'm good to go, but if not then, well, I'd rather not go there. Also there may be a hernia there as well so,in a roundabout way the Covid jab did me a favour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Diver One said: possibly saved my life! I hope all goes well tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 No thanks x 1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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