ditchman Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 what is the swinging bracket thing for then ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted October 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, ditchman said: what is the swinging bracket thing for then ???? Aaargh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockybasher Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, ditchman said: what is the swinging bracket thing for then ???? Keeps the beer cool ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 Have to say, the first very quick glance said man trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, wymberley said: Have to say, the first very quick glance said man trap. Yes it caught a few of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 34 minutes ago, johnphilip said: Yes it caught a few of us 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 17 hours ago, Miserableolgit said: No, they usually use a traditional collar formed from long rye grass, lined with check cloth and faced with leather with 'hames' that incorporate hooks that take the means of pulling the vessel. These are supported halfway down the body of the animal by leather straps that run from the crupper strap that fits under the horses tail at the rear and collar at the neck. The idea is that the pull [or angle of draft] is as straight as possible and everything has to be kind to the horse. All very similar to plough or cart harness. Breast harness does not use a collar but instead uses a wide strap that fits around then front or the animal's chest and the pull [or rather the horse pushes with both collar and breast harness]. I'm not sure I explained all that very well but having seen the subsequent photos of more of the contraption I am of a mind that it is the remains of some redundant bit of agricultural implement like the frame of a topper, old mower or some such. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 17 hours ago, Miserableolgit said: No, they usually use a traditional collar formed from long rye grass, lined with check cloth and faced with leather with 'hames' that incorporate hooks that take the means of pulling the vessel. These are supported halfway down the body of the animal by leather straps that run from the crupper strap that fits under the horses tail at the rear and collar at the neck. The idea is that the pull [or angle of draft] is as straight as possible and everything has to be kind to the horse. All very similar to plough or cart harness. Breast harness does not use a collar but instead uses a wide strap that fits around then front or the animal's chest and the pull [or rather the horse pushes with both collar and breast harness]. I'm not sure I explained all that very well but having seen the subsequent photos of more of the contraption I am of a mind that it is the remains of some redundant bit of agricultural implement like the frame of a topper, old mower or some such. Thank you. Part of an old animal feed chopping machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 16 hours ago, johnphilip said: Yes it caught a few of us Nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, wymberley said: Nice one. so what is the swinging bracket thing then ...eh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, ditchman said: so what is the swinging bracket thing then ...eh ! Haven't got a clue. Emphasise the 'very quick glance' and I was out of it when there wasn't also one on the other side of the stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, ditchman said: so what is the swinging bracket thing then ...eh ! "If" it's the remains of a topper, it could either be for a (rusted away rear section) to hinge up if too much grass built up underneath or perhaps a towed chain rake. It's defiantly old and probably had a fair amount of farmer/blacksmith bodgeification done to it. I also think I'm slightly overinvested in this now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 Great photos Welshie and especially the one with the sizes. I think definately an old Topper and I think extremely old as well and that is why many of us couldn't work out what it was. Well done to whoever got it right. Now what is your next photographs for us Welshie????? Hah Ha Ha Pushkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted November 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, Pushkin said: Great photos Welshie and especially the one with the sizes. I think definately an old Topper and I think extremely old as well and that is why many of us couldn't work out what it was. Well done to whoever got it right. Now what is your next photographs for us Welshie????? Hah Ha Ha Pushkin Stay tuned and find out.. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 I reckon it's lying down and should actually be vertical. The blue circled bits seem to be the pins for lower tractor arms. The red circled bit looks like two flat steel strips that may have holes in to take a top link pin. No idea what it is though. maybe a gearbox missing as the circular strip of steel has some sort of rotary shaft in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 Walshie Quoted stay tuned and find out. Ha hA Ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, walshie said: Stay tuned and find out.. 😃 can you clean it a bit and stand it up ?.............dont think it is a topper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, ditchman said: can you clean it a bit and stand it up ?.............dont think it is a topper I bet he wishes he had NEVER found the damned thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I bet he wishes he had NEVER found the damned thing. well ive been looking at it ..and the only way you can get a 3 point linkage on it is to stand it up I WISH HE HAD NEVER FOUND THE DAMED THING i think it might be some sort of either seed or fertilizer spreader ? Edited November 1, 2023 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, walshie said: Stay tuned and find out.. 😃 hello, we all on PW are 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 The more I look at it I think it's off something I used to own.Could it be the frame off a vicon till sower.The waggly tube one not the disc spreader.circa 1970's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, wisdom said: The more I look at it I think it's off something I used to own.Could it be the frame off a vicon till sower.The waggly tube one not the disc spreader.circa 1970's That sounds pretty good. The hopper sits on that round ring with the top folding bar holding the top of the hopper. The shaft through the circle is the agitator.............the rest is missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, wyn said: That sounds pretty good. The hopper sits on that round ring with the top folding bar holding the top of the hopper. The shaft through the circle is the agitator.............the rest is missing. and the folding thing might have been alid ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 6 hours ago, walshie said: Stay tuned and find out.. 😃 Walshie,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, think i have found out what it is it is a TEAGLE PTO driven fertilizer spreader (Spinner type) Made in TRURO Cornwall dont know the date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, ditchman said: Walshie,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, think i have found out what it is it is a TEAGLE PTO driven fertilizer spreader (Spinner type) Made in TRURO Cornwall dont know the date Dichy you look like you have it ! Better photo of steel work Ditchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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