Andyj1967 Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 Hello all, so I’m upgrading my Bettinsoli as it doesn’t really suit me and after a chat in our local gun shop it was decided that the gun doesn’t really fit and needs a fair bit of stock work. My budget for a replacement is around £1300 most of my shooting is clay with a bit of game I have had a look at an ATA pro which fitted me a lot better and felt a lot more comfortable but then I’m not sure on how it would be after a few years as most of the reviews always end with a great starter gun ! I have found a few nice Brownings 525s/725s Beretta Silver pigeons in my budget which although old feel nice. So thought on new ATA or a nice second hand (I feel I may know how this will go but hopefully someone that has an ATA for while may chip in)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 Hello, Browning 525 Sporter ? although i cannot see that the ATA would not last many years if looked after, how much shooting a year ?, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyj1967 Posted May 5 Author Report Share Posted May 5 5 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Browning 525 Sporter ? although i cannot see that the ATA would not last many years if looked after, how much shooting a year ?, To be fair I don’t get out to shoot a lot, probably a few hundred clay every couple of months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 I would look at a second hand silver pigeon or 525, try and shoot both before buying and see which suits best. A second hand gun you should be able to shoot before buying. You’ll get one for under £1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 For that sort of money you could get a Yilditz pro - Perazzi based action - which are way better than ATA. Never buy a new gun, they lose money the minute you step out of the shop. You can pick up guns which someone has bought and, for whatever reason, didn't get on with them. Miroku, Beretta, Browning, Fabarm and many more to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggy74 Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 second hand all the way, as above new guns lose soooo much money. my first gun was an ata, not great quality, trigger and selector issues since day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hod Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 39 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: I would look at a second hand silver pigeon or 525, try and shoot both before buying and see which suits best. A second hand gun you should be able to shoot before buying. You’ll get one for under £1000. Absolutely this. Especially a private sale (there’s plenty). Be picky, I’ve bought plenty and most looked barely used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 Second hand every time. Lots of cabinet queens around. I bought a 525 which was ten years old and not yet shot a full box of cartridges. They are about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 Andyj1967 Whereabouts are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 Even if you get a 525 that’s done a couple of thousand cart’s its only at the start of its life in real terms. Worn-in but far from worn-out. Buy one that’s been looked after and continue taking care of it. It will serve you well for decades. Let someone else take the hit of the brand new price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 3 hours ago, Andyj1967 said: To be fair I don’t get out to shoot a lot, probably a few hundred clay every couple of months. Hello, if you found the ATA fitted and like it get one of them, plenty second hand and not to expensive new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu nesling Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 another option is a mk38 grd 1 s/h for that money, a lifetime gun. You will wear out before it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyj1967 Posted May 5 Author Report Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Andyj1967 Whereabouts are you? Colchester Essex bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigroomboy Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Andyj1967 said: Colchester Essex bud Worth having a look at Essex gun at Braintree. Very friendly staff and I got a miroku mK60 with little use but a bit of cosmetic knocks for ironically £525 about 18 months ago and they gave me a slip to take it home without me even asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyj1967 Posted May 5 Author Report Share Posted May 5 48 minutes ago, bigroomboy said: Worth having a look at Essex gun at Braintree. Very friendly staff and I got a miroku mK60 with little use but a bit of cosmetic knocks for ironically £525 about 18 months ago and they gave me a slip to take it home without me even asking. I was there on Saturday…. Hence looking for a new gun, they had the ATA pro there but wasn’t happy with the action hard work to cock it, I know it’s new but bloody hell. Going to Eastern sporting Tuesday and Mallard Barn Wednesday as they have more in my budget 👍 2 hours ago, stu nesling said: another option is a mk38 grd 1 s/h for that money, a lifetime gun. You will wear out before it does. Just had a Quick Look definitely an option… thanks 4 hours ago, DUNKS said: Second hand every time. Lots of cabinet queens around. I bought a 525 which was ten years old and not yet shot a full box of cartridges. They are about. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 3 hours ago, stu nesling said: another option is a mk38 grd 1 s/h for that money, a lifetime gun. You will wear out before it does. Yes agreed. Browning / Miroku …. same difference. They’ve both stood up well throughout several decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 It doesn’t matter what you are buying, be it guns, cars, scopes, binoculars or whatever. A better quality secondhand item beats a cheap new one every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, London Best said: It doesn’t matter what you are buying, be it guns, cars, scopes, binoculars or whatever. A better quality secondhand item beats a cheap new one every time. Have you tried ISS (Independent Shooting Supplies) near Brentwood? I bought a gun from them a couple of years ago (16 bore Lincoln Jubilee) and was most impressed by the friendly atmosphere and plenty of good banter. Lovely shop. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 17 hours ago, Fellside said: Yes agreed. Browning / Miroku …. same difference. They’ve both stood up well throughout several decades. Got a MK 38 second hand trap over 10 years ago with 8 chokes .Use 1/4 and 1/2 most of the time cost me £950 .Got more expensive guns i e Browning centenary.When I get rid of most MK 38 last to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyj1967 Posted May 6 Author Report Share Posted May 6 6 hours ago, Old Boggy said: Have you tried ISS (Independent Shooting Supplies) near Brentwood? I bought a gun from them a couple of years ago (16 bore Lincoln Jubilee) and was most impressed by the friendly atmosphere and plenty of good banter. Lovely shop. OB No not heard of them , will check them out looking at 2 Berettas tomorrow silver pigeon and 690 black . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 To be fair both the ATA and the Yildiz get really good write ups. ATA - Beretta based action, lot of gun for the money, I think around £1200 new? Yildiz - Perazzi based action, also a lot of gun but quite a bit more expensive new £2k+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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