Bigbob Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 We where at Morrisons Supermarket today buying plants and the lassie at the till was talking to the wife and the supervisor next to her lets out a shout for the security guard , A guy holding a wire shopping basket had cut threw some closed tills and was walking too the door , The security guard caught up to him the guy just handed him the basket and walked out ,Turns out it was full of razors and blades they put it threw a till and it was nearly £250 worth They reckon he was stealing to order . Just confused why they would put it threw a till to find out the amount the security guard wouldn't be getting a bonus ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 this is akin to looting....if i was prime minister i would instruct all shops to have a security gaurd on the door with an aluminium base ball bat....so they can smash the legs of scum bags on the way out..... jobs sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nublue 22 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 I am thinking that if it's under a certain amount your local police aren't interested or will not come out and make an arrest, Britain at its best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Nothing done these days, Far too many walking into shops taking what they want and go in tooled up. Too late for this country,,, far too many settled in that used to do the same in their native land. Just pickings over here are better and they are basically better off to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 2 minutes ago, Dougy said: Nothing done these days, Far too many walking into shops taking what they want and go in tooled up. Too late for this country,,, far too many settled in that used to do the same in their native land. Just pickings over here are better and they are basically better off to begin with. AND they've no chance of having a hand (or 2) lopped off or being stoned to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 2 minutes ago, Dougy said: Nothing done these days, Far too many walking into shops taking what they want and go in tooled up. Too late for this country,,, far too many settled in that used to do the same in their native land. Just pickings over here are better and they are basically better off to begin with. Where is your evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, oowee said: Where is your evidence? Looks like you are a scum lover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Just now, oowee said: Where is your evidence? For goodness sake oowee your having a laugh 1st off original post, and I don't wear rose tinted glasses. You really need to get out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 27 minutes ago, Dougy said: For goodness sake oowee your having a laugh 1st off original post, and I don't wear rose tinted glasses. You really need to get out more. Ah i see it's just your thoughts. It's quite a bold statement and I thought you would have some evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, oowee said: Ah i see it's just your thoughts. It's quite a bold statement and I thought you would have some evidence. Can't be bothered with you. Get a bigger maggot, not interested !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 38 minutes ago, oowee said: Where is your evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, Good shot? said: I don't doubt at all that shoplifting is out of control. Having sat for 3 years on a retail partnership for Milton Keynes shopping centre It's not an easy thing to deal with. That said I doubt there is any evidence to back up what @Dougyis suggesting. If we don't understand a problem we won't find a solution. There was a foi request for Kent on the subject in 2022 (i think) that gave a good insight to the problems (including break down by ethic groups) and also a recent piece in the guardian that linked the increase with the cost of living rises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobbyathome Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 I was in a sainsburys petrol station paying for my fuel and a young drug looking scummy woman was scooping all the sweets off the counters and filling a laundry bag I couldn’t believe what I was seeing she screamed at the two girls behind the glass I told you I would be back for a second lot I looked at the two girls and they said don’t get involved she is always stealing in here and it’s on camera sainsburys don’t pay us enough to get hit or stabbed I was just gobsmacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 13 minutes ago, nobbyathome said: I was in a sainsburys petrol station paying for my fuel and a young drug looking scummy woman was scooping all the sweets off the counters and filling a laundry bag I couldn’t believe what I was seeing she screamed at the two girls behind the glass I told you I would be back for a second lot I looked at the two girls and they said don’t get involved she is always stealing in here and it’s on camera sainsburys don’t pay us enough to get hit or stabbed I was just gobsmacked And what did you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobbyathome Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 (edited) 17 minutes ago, oowee said: And what did you do? I thought about taking it off of her then it all goes through your mind if she hits kicks or gets a blade out I have to knock her out that would lead to me probably getting nicked and my cert taken off me so I listened to the two girls advice and did nothing but try to talk to her a so she might see sense and b her face will be on the camera I felt like a coward and hated myself I got home told the Mrs and she used to work in a sainsburys superstore and she said they just let them get away with it for about three times and keep the video evidence and when they have enough they then report it to the police to deal with I still wish I had kicked her out the door though As my Mrs said you don’t know if she had a boyfriend tooled up outside and sainsburys wouldn’t pay your wages if you got stabbed the thieving scumbag had a massive big laundry bag and was like supermarket sweep just arm behind and scooping all the stuff in it was unreal Edited May 30 by nobbyathome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 7 hours ago, nobbyathome said: I thought about taking it off of her then it all goes through your mind if she hits kicks or gets a blade out I have to knock her out that would lead to me probably getting nicked and my cert taken off me so I listened to the two girls advice and did nothing but try to talk to her a so she might see sense and b her face will be on the camera I felt like a coward and hated myself I got home told the Mrs and she used to work in a sainsburys superstore and she said they just let them get away with it for about three times and keep the video evidence and when they have enough they then report it to the police to deal with I still wish I had kicked her out the door though As my Mrs said you don’t know if she had a boyfriend tooled up outside and sainsburys wouldn’t pay your wages if you got stabbed the thieving scumbag had a massive big laundry bag and was like supermarket sweep just arm behind and scooping all the stuff in it was unreal 👍 It's a tough one. Easy to sit here and say do this do that. Reality is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 12 hours ago, Dougy said: For goodness sake oowee your having a laugh 1st off original post, and I don't wear rose tinted glasses. You really need to get out more. He’s got a point. What native land? I’d wager 90% of UK shop lifters are British born, regardless of their race… 9 hours ago, nobbyathome said: I thought about taking it off of her then it all goes through your mind if she hits kicks or gets a blade out I have to knock her out that would lead to me probably getting nicked and my cert taken off me so I listened to the two girls advice and did nothing but try to talk to her a so she might see sense and b her face will be on the camera I felt like a coward and hated myself I got home told the Mrs and she used to work in a sainsburys superstore and she said they just let them get away with it for about three times and keep the video evidence and when they have enough they then report it to the police to deal with I still wish I had kicked her out the door though As my Mrs said you don’t know if she had a boyfriend tooled up outside and sainsburys wouldn’t pay your wages if you got stabbed the thieving scumbag had a massive big laundry bag and was like supermarket sweep just arm behind and scooping all the stuff in it was unreal And that’s one of the key problems. The courts law will punish the law abiding good citizen who tries to help whilst the scum carry on. The social contract with the Government / Police is that they uphold law and order and people don’t take vigilante justice. The Courts / Police seem to be failing miserably in this department yet people don’t have a legal right to protect / defend their own property. America has many problems but the right to stand your ground and defend your property is something I think they have right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 I think you will find it is NOT store policy to report shoplifters any more, especially if they get the goods back. It is NOT the Police failure to attend, but the cost to the store to lose 2 of more members of Staff, on several occasions, to attend Court for what ? Suspended sentence at best. Many stores are now applying for injunction orders to prevent habitual thieves from entering the store. As to "what did you do" ?? I would urge anyone to think twice before 'wading in' I have said this before, I did and got stuck with a hyperdermic for my trouble. 6 months of hospital visits for blood tests and not even a thank you from Morrisons ! On 30/05/2024 at 19:17, Nublue 22 said: I am thinking that if it's under a certain amount your local police aren't interested or will not come out and make an arrest, Britain at its best. Blame Company policy NOT the Police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted June 1 Report Share Posted June 1 On 30/05/2024 at 18:30, Bigbob said: We where at Morrisons Supermarket today buying plants and the lassie at the till was talking to the wife and the supervisor next to her lets out a shout for the security guard , A guy holding a wire shopping basket had cut threw some closed tills and was walking too the door , The security guard caught up to him the guy just handed him the basket and walked out ,Turns out it was full of razors and blades they put it threw a till and it was nearly £250 worth They reckon he was stealing to order . Just confused why they would put it threw a till to find out the amount the security guard wouldn't be getting a bonus ?. They can then put the goods back on the shelves and still have evidence should they follow up on a prosecution. The till receipt plus cctv or witness statement will be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted June 2 Report Share Posted June 2 But we are paying for them to steal stuff as the supermarkets have to cover the losses or they would go bust. I was sat on the wall with the spaniel outside Aldi waiting for the Mrs and watched a fella walk in the in door and said to myself I bet i see him walk back out the same door 5 minutes later tailed by one of the staff ! It was closer to 10 and he scampered of at quite a lick talking to the Aldi lad who followed him out about if he needed my details to report it - he said we have to watch the cctv to work out what he’s knicked so we can put it on the computer as known losses ! No need for me to get involved as police would just issue crime numbers Agriv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted June 2 Report Share Posted June 2 30 minutes ago, Agriv8 said: But we are paying for them to steal stuff as the supermarkets have to cover the losses or they would go bust. with rice crispes at £3.80 a box and rich tea almost £2 a packet there is zero chance of the real thieves going bust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 2 Report Share Posted June 2 (edited) 45 minutes ago, clangerman said: with rice crispes at £3.80 a box and rich tea almost £2 a packet there is zero chance of the real thieves going bust! Your right but at least they will have an early grave and no Teath when they die eating the crispies. 😁 Ps there is only one tea. It comes from Yorkshire. Ahh just realised rich tea is a poor man's digestive. 🤣 Edited June 2 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 On 30/05/2024 at 20:03, oowee said: Where is your evidence? To be fair I think there is plenty of evidence, but up until recently it's been buried. Race is obviously unimportant, the issue is cultural and learnt behaviour, which is being driven by mass uncontrolled migration, some of which is by individuals that don't share our values and are frankly dangerous. Here's a cut and paste on theft taken from gov.uk website and a study done by the commission on race and ethnic disparitys. Theft offences accounted for 19% of total arrests (where ethnicity was known) in 2018 to 2019. There was variation by ethnicity with 20% of Whites, 17% Mixed and Other (including Chinese), 13% Black and 11% of Asian being arrested for theft. These arrests translated into higher percentages of theft convictions that varied in a similar pattern, accounting for 38% of convictions for White offenders, and 28% for Other (including Chinese) offenders, 18% of Black offenders, and 19% of Asian offenders. Obviously there's no breakdown on who is a UK citizen ect, but I would think it obvious certain offences are being disproportionatly carried out by individuals not from the UK, just look at the change to crime stats in countries like Sweden who have had incredible levels of illegal immigration. Just as the UK will also have certain crimes predominantly carried out by white British. I came back through Calais recently, their were swarms of migrants wandering about, many clearly looking for any opportunities that presented themselves. I had to leave my vehicle in a secure compound, as I've no doubt if I'd left it unattended I'd have come back to a broken into vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 (edited) There are some huge assumptions in your proposition from a very limited data set that itself does not support your assertion. Unfortunately the use of words like swarm, incredible levels of illegal immigrants plays straight into the hands of those that seek to exploit division and hatred. This division and hatred is the Cancer within that destroys a country. We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us. Jo Cox. Edited June 3 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 On 30/05/2024 at 19:53, Dougy said: Nothing done these days, Far too many walking into shops taking what they want and go in tooled up. Too late for this country,,, far too many settled in that used to do the same in their native land. Just pickings over here are better and they are basically better off to begin with. Yep, absolutely Dougy. On 30/05/2024 at 20:03, oowee said: Where is your evidence? You need to get out more into city suburbs in Birmingham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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