12gauge82 Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, oowee said: First page nobodysperfect claiming the shooter as 'the far left trying to start a civil war but can't make a 200 foot shot'. I was just in the process of posting the relevant quotes, but you've just done it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 17 minutes ago, Penelope said: The View? A US TV show, somewhat akin to Loose Women and about as entertaining, with cast of fruitloops where the main topic is Trump, Trump and more Trump and how much they hate him. I guess you know what TDS is, being a sufferer. Do they just hate Trump or are they on the left? Many republicans hate Trump but would support some of his politics. Surely left or right depends on where you stand. Many corbanistas would say Starmer is right wing. I would guess that compared to the UK the Biden administration is leaning to the right. My point being that simply hating Trump's politics does not make anyone on the left of politics. Anyone who takes a shot at Trump or any other politician is certainly an extremist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 Not sure if the bullet went through his ear , or just nicked it , whatever it was he was as near to death as he is ever likely to get , i recon it will give him a few nightmares , I know it would me if I had been in the same situation , not that I am ever likely to stand for the U S president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 (edited) 41 minutes ago, oowee said: Do they just hate Trump or are they on the left? Many republicans hate Trump but would support some of his politics. Surely left or right depends on where you stand. Many corbanistas would say Starmer is right wing. I would guess that compared to the UK the Biden administration is leaning to the right. My point being that simply hating Trump's politics does not make anyone on the left of politics. Anyone who takes a shot at Trump or any other politician is certainly an extremist. Both!! They are in favour of all of the other 'progressive' (woke) rubbish. Edited July 15 by Penelope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 19 minutes ago, marsh man said: Not sure if the bullet went through his ear , or just nicked it , whatever it was he was as near to death as he is ever likely to get , i recon it will give him a few nightmares , I know it would me if I had been in the same situation , not that I am ever likely to stand for the U S president Heard on the news today that some are saying it was divine intervention, whats next saint trump [ maybe he can have his hair fashioned to resemble a halo] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 Hello, While it was a Heinous crime against a former President and maybe the new one in November i am sure there will be people from the opposition wishing a different outcome !!!!!, But why would a 20 year old do such a thing knowing he might end up dead as what happened , Must be a difficult time for the Family !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 while no fan fact trump was defiant and seized the moment shows he’s right for the job zelensky must be sick as a parrot now trump victory is almost assured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 12 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: To be fair, I think it was in response to someone else who had claimed it would be someone from the left. I think Oowee has a point, it really doesn't matter whether it was a far Right or Left extremist, what matters is it was an extremist and it's the hatred between 2 devided sides that has led to this kind of disgraceful action. This sounds like the mutual perpetual partisan hatred rife in the middle east - which of course is continuing migration to the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, oowee said: First page nobodysperfect claiming the shooter as 'the far left trying to start a civil war but can't make a 200 foot shot'. I see you inserted the 'far' into left but OK 'He missed a 200ft shot 😂. Left wants to start a civil war and misses a 200ft shot with a rifle. ' 1 hour ago, oowee said: My point being that simply hating Trump's politics does not make anyone on the left of politics. Anyone who takes a shot at Trump or any other politician is certainly an extremist. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, islandgun said: Heard on the news today that some are saying it was divine intervention, whats next saint trump [ maybe he can have his hair fashioned to resemble a halo] In a gravelly voice ... 'Some say the Donald cant be killed by ordinary means, does it take a silver bullet, a piece of the true cross piercing his heart ? Some say the only way to end the man is to drown him in liberal tears...' Either way , hes a lucky man, and that might resonate with some, to the more god fearing , it might seem like hes been chosen to MAGA Edited July 15 by Rewulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houseplant Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 This is like a plot from a bad film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 Just to add some observations: 1. Range to target 155 yards, minimal wind (1-3mph right to left of target), downward trajectory, iron sights (I think), cold barrel, probably no fouling shot, factory 223 REM in a semi-auto platform only purchased six months ago - result = 3 inches off to the left - not bad for a hurried 20 year old, whos just climbed a ladder, wearing glasses with no training. 2. In the seconds leading up to the shot, Trump was moving his head like an anxious squirrel without a nut. At the point he turned round and faced the shooter, the shot is sent. 3. Snipers had full view of the roof the shooter was on - their barn is much higher than the shooter's building. They are thought to have at least a WIN 308 but may even have been 338 Lapua. 4. If you tell the Police there's a guy with a gun and they need to communicate with the sniper team, they can't - they are on 2 different radio nets so there has to be a relay transmission which takes time. 5. The Secret Service guy to the left of the podium did shout, "Duck, duck, duck" and Donald did duck. 6. Trumps shoes came off in the scramble - the delay once he's back on his feet is caused by him insisting, "Get my shoes, get my shoes". 7. Given the circumstances, Trump showed a remarkable amount of composure. He reacted quickly and appropriately and hasn't yet made a fuss about his (fortunately) minor injury. I'm not sure others would have reacted so well. 8. It's easy to pick apart the Secret Service fumbles and hesitation after the event but these are people reacting to a very confused and dynamic situation and I thought they did really well. 9. This is the 5th attempt on Trump's life since he left office, the previous four attempts have not been publicised. 10. The extent of the Trump weave was exposed during the event - he has full male pattern baldness extending all the way to the very back of his head (the occiput). His MAGA hat was saved by the Secret Service. 11. The bullet was pictured in flight by a stills photographer - for me, that's the real shot of the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mice! Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 It reads like 'Day of the Jackal' went for the headshot and missed. Anything I've read, or film I've watched always has SS snipers and police snipers on surrounding roofs, high points covered, how on earth did they let this lad climb onto a raised platform with a rifle?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, While it was a Heinous crime against a former President and maybe the new one in November i am sure there will be people from the opposition wishing a different outcome !!!!!, But why would a 20 year old do such a thing knowing he might end up dead as what happened , Must be a difficult time for the Family !!! Oh, there loads of Lib fools over interweb, becrying the fact the assasin missed. Mostly 20 year old blue haired girls. A claim to fame (postumous) if he had succeeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 Good job lad didn’t use a vmax Trump wouldn’t be wearing glasses ever again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 2 hours ago, clangerman said: while no fan fact trump was defiant and seized the moment shows he’s right for the job zelensky must be sick as a parrot now trump victory is almost assured Zelensky i guess he has seen enough ups and downs to not worry so much 🤣 Worried will be :- All of the EU except Orban, normal Republicans. The UK government anyone who cares about freedom, democracy, and peace are also hugely disappointed of course. Putin is happy so is Khomeni, the Taliban, Jong Un, Xi and Musk, Orban and Farage, anyone that wants to see the downfall and break up of the West. Also add those that believe in the supernatural, want to restrict women's freedom of choice, the rule of law, allow unfettered access to weapons of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 2 hours ago, Blackjack said: 7. Given the circumstances, Trump showed a remarkable amount of composure. He reacted quickly and appropriately and hasn't yet made a fuss about his (fortunately) minor injury. I'm not sure others would have reacted so well. 8. It's easy to pick apart the Secret Service fumbles and hesitation after the event but these are people reacting to a very confused and dynamic situation and I thought they did really well. You have to be impressed with Trumps reaction. Not least of which because he was immediately flattened by 300kg of bodyguards. I thought the SS did well too. Delivered the fatal shot almost immediately. Not easy at all given the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 7 minutes ago, oowee said: Putin is happy so is Khomeni, the Taliban, Jong Un, Xi and Musk, Orban and Farage, anyone that wants to see the downfall and break up of the West. Also add those that believe in the supernatural, want to restrict women's freedom of choice, the rule of law, allow unfettered access to weapons of war. Youve been drinking that Kool aid again Ill take you up on one point there, 'unfettered access to weapons of war' We have sent billions of dollars worth of hi tech weaponry into Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries in the world, given to men who are in abject poverty, barely paid for risking their lives daily, in a completely unregulated situation. Do you not think that some of those weapons might find their way into the hands of people who really shouldnt have them? Have we not facilitated that unfettered access to possibly, drug lords, terror groups, despots ? What happens when an airliner gets taken out by an American SAM , or a countries leader hit by a Javelin ? What about the reverse engineering being done by Iran, Russia and China, on captured NATO weapons ? Have we already given too much away in technology, money and reputation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, oowee said: Zelensky i guess he has seen enough ups and downs to not worry so much 🤣 Worried will be :- All of the EU except Orban, normal Republicans. The UK government anyone who cares about freedom, democracy, and peace are also hugely disappointed of course. Putin is happy so is Khomeni, the Taliban, Jong Un, Xi and Musk, Orban and Farage, anyone that wants to see the downfall and break up of the West. Also add those that believe in the supernatural, want to restrict women's freedom of choice, the rule of law, allow unfettered access to weapons of war. "Calm down dear - its just a commercial" comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 2 hours ago, oowee said: anyone who cares about freedom, democracy, and peace are also hugely disappointed of course. One would hope you care about freedom, democracy and peace. Does that mean you are hugely disappointed too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 18 minutes ago, serrac said: One would hope you care about freedom, democracy and peace. Does that mean you are hugely disappointed too? About the assassination attempt most definitely not. That Trump is very likely to benefit as a result, most definitely disappointed. Immediately following the shooting, post Mike Johnson asking to tone down the rhetoric was followed by;- Maga MTG said' The Democrats are the party of pedophiles, murdering the innocent unborn, violence and bloody meaningless endless wars. The Democrat party is flat out evil and yesterday they tried to murder President Trump'. What sane peace loving, democracy supporting person, could get behind that? Trump get in we are on our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, oowee said: About the assassination attempt most definitely not. That Trump is very likely to benefit as a result, most definitely disappointed. Immediately following the shooting, post Mike Johnson asking to tone down the rhetoric was followed by;- Maga MTG said' The Democrats are the party of pedophiles, murdering the innocent unborn, violence and bloody meaningless endless wars. The Democrat party is flat out evil and yesterday they tried to murder President Trump'. What sane peace loving, democracy supporting person, could get behind that? Trump get in we are on our own. Trump has been in before - for four whole years. What did he do during his past term that's so bad you're terrified of it happening again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 2 minutes ago, serrac said: Trump has been in before - for four whole years. What did he do during his past term that's so bad you're terrified of it happening again? I keep asking them this, they tend to go quiet, or mumble something about agenda whatever, or handing over the US to Putin or Xi. Makes no sense whatsoever. My favourite author John 12 Hawks, who writes dystopian/totalitarian novels, said back in 2016 that the world as we know it would cease to exist if Trump was elected, that he could only see 'darkness' and war ahead. I asked him recently how he felt about those comments now, he replied that yeah, he was wrong, and the closest we have come to his dark vision was under Biden. Trump promises stability, and is the only president in the last 50 years who has left office with less personal wealth than when he entered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 (edited) 30 minutes ago, serrac said: Trump has been in before - for four whole years. What did he do during his past term that's so bad you're terrified of it happening again? Terrified 😁 i don't need to be. Insurrection. Pardoning himself and other scrotes. Project 2025. Lack of stability, lying and flip flopping (Tik Tok Byte dance and his indebtedness) Lack of morality. Attitude to women, women's rights and belief in the supernatural. lack of support for the west. Lets flip the question why would anyone like the ****? Edited July 15 by oowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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