JKD Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 Just now, Raja Clavata said: Agreed. No other PCs 'retaliated', and neither did the other perp sitting at the back steam back in when his accomplice got some 'afters' 🤷♂️ Definitely not defending the "scumbags" and hope/trust they get dealt with accordingly 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 8 minutes ago, clangerman said: there is only ONE reason to drive the boot in when some fool is already on the ground it’s called payback and trying to use video of prior actions as an excuse won’t change it! The policeman who put the boot in might have been concussed after suffering several heavy blows to the head ? brain certainly wouldn't have been working normally ,concussion has many different ways of manifesting itself after a sustained attack like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 2 hours ago, Duckandswing said: Well, having seen a new video of the lead up to the police officer kicking the guy in the head I might have changed my mind slightly. They gave the police a right pasting. I can’t honestly say I wouldn’t have gone over the top in that scenario. They look like absolute scummers to me. This. I can’t imagine a day I’d swing at a copper let alone go at it like that at a copper and a female copper. I think most of us could never be a policeman for the restraint required - plenty of us would have done worse than kick the scumbag in the head after that. As for the protests and race baiting that followed - this has nothing to do with race or religion, it’s all about scum bags. And imagine your in an airport with your family and these scumbags kick off - who is going to be there to help you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, JKD said: No other PCs 'retaliated', and neither did the other perp sitting at the back steam back in when his accomplice got some 'afters' 🤷♂️ Definitely not defending the "scumbags" and hope/trust they get dealt with accordingly 👍 How would you react if you had been beaten about the head and two fellow female officers beaten up, survival mode kicks in .why would they attack armed police in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 One of the ladies in black rushed to one of the trollys and grabbed something which was then tucked under her arm. From Auntie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mungler said: This. I can’t imagine a day I’d swing at a copper let alone go at it like that at a copper and a female copper. I think most of us could never be a policeman for the restraint required - plenty of us would have done worse than kick the scumbag in the head after that. As for the protests and race baiting that followed - this has nothing to do with race or religion, it’s all about scum bags. And imagine your in an airport with your family and these scumbags kick off - who is going to be there to help you? Completely agree . If the BBC don't show that clip a hundred times tomorrow like they did the vile police brutality kick then i will definitely complain to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, holloway said: Completely agree . If the BBC don't show that clip a hundred times tomorrow like they did the vile police brutality kick then i will definitely complain to them. I will be amazed if they show it even once Oh wait. It is already up on the main page Edited July 27, 2024 by ShootingEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 9 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: I will be amazed if they show it even once Oh wait. It is already up on the main page 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1066 Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 Absolute scumbags, and if they will do that to policemen and woman in a public place, then what would they do to a person down a back alley. They are clearly not that clever either because they have now shown their faces on TV when they allowed their so called solicitor to explain their injuries, so they will need to be careful where they visit in the very near future, but I guess they will stick to their no go area where they are safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 Not sure why the BBC footage was slowed down, it looks far worse at full speed. Just watched it again several times, there's a lot to take in. The big guy who sits down and puts his hands up has landed 5 or 6 serious blows, only sits down when the copper gets free, the taser is pulled, for some reason the copper doesn't pull the trigger and is then ASSAULTED from behind, people die getting hit in the back of the head, 3 or 4 shots to the back of the head. The smaller guy is hitting everyone, knocking down three coppers, before one finally zaps him, I'm trying to see if it's the copper who didn't zap thug 1 who puts the boot in?? One of the female officers must be groggy because she cannot get her taser or pistol out despite a lot of fumbling around. Real shame there wasn't a police dog there! I don't disagree the officer putting the boot in looks bad, but it doesn't any worse than what happens in this video. 1 hour ago, Mungler said: As for the protests and race baiting that followed - this has nothing to do with race or religion, it’s all about scum bags. And imagine your in an airport with your family and these scumbags kick off - who is going to be there to help you? Look how many just stand around watching? As for the protests maybe this footage will shut them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted July 27, 2024 Report Share Posted July 27, 2024 1 hour ago, johnphilip said: How would you react if you had been beaten about the head and two fellow female officers beaten up, survival mode kicks in .why would they attack armed police in the first place. If I was a police officer I would have handcuffed the guy on the floor while directing my colleagues to handcuff the other guy who was sitting down with his hands on his head 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 The problem the copper got is the man was tasered so out of the fight he lost control of his temper and being a firearm officer that's not a good outlook for him he kicked a man that's was defenseless he still has to be held to accountability for his actions There was no grabbing for his side arm or any other firearm don't get me wrong that lad deserves all he gets in court and that's where justice gets handed out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: The problem the copper got is the man was tasered so out of the fight he lost control of his temper and being a firearm officer that's not a good outlook for him he kicked a man that's was defenseless he still has to be held to accountability for his actions There was no grabbing for his side arm or any other firearm don't get me wrong that lad deserves all he gets in court and that's where justice gets handed out No it isn't these days, it should be, but the courts are woefully inadequate and are no deterrent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: No it isn't these days, it should be, but the courts are woefully inadequate and are no deterrent. I agree with you but you cant let let this type of action go or we will end up like America shoot first ask questions later or do like in my day wait until they get you back at the cells believe me i know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mice! said: As for the protests maybe this footage will shut them up. Don't hold your breath...... 6 hours ago, JKD said: If I was a police officer I would have handcuffed the guy on the floor while directing my colleagues to handcuff the other guy who was sitting down with his hands on his head 😏 The first time he tried to handcuff him, he got attacked from behind, then when he was trying to arrest the second assailant, who attacked him, the one he tried to handcuff first, atacked him from behind. He then asserted the fact that if the assault continued, extreme force would be used. This ended the assault. I'd say his actions were was justified. The pistol whipping, for me this is a different story, and where he needs to answer for his actions. Edited July 28, 2024 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 1 minute ago, Newbie to this said: Don't hold your breath...... The first time he tried to handcuff him, he got attacked from behind, then when he was trying to arrest the second assailant, who attacked him, the one he tried to handcuff first, atacked him from behind. He then asserted the fact that if the assault continued, extreme force would be used. This ended the assault. I'd say his actiins were was justified. The pistol whipping, for me this is a different story, and where he needs to answer for his actions. You are entitled to your opinion 👍 even if it's incorrect 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 Just now, JKD said: You are entitled to your opinion 👍 even if it's incorrect 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 8 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Thought you'd like that 😁🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 The biggest issue with this incident, is where is his backup. The assault starts and he is pretty much left to deal with them on his own. I can't help but think, would this have even happened, if it was 3 officers from when we had proper recruitment standards for the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 Don't want to sound like a chauvinist but this is where a female officer is no good as backup in a street fight 8 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: The biggest issue with this incident, is where is his backup. The assault starts and he is pretty much left to deal with them on his own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 8 hours ago, JKD said: No other PCs 'retaliated', and neither did the other perp sitting at the back steam back in when his accomplice got some 'afters' 🤷♂️ Definitely not defending the "scumbags" and hope/trust they get dealt with accordingly 👍 At least it appears we all agree the perps are total scumbags, that’s something. They need to be prosecuted, which I trust will be the case. The kicking/stamping copper ain’t getting away with it either, confident as a minimum he’ll never legally touch a firearm again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 10 minutes ago, JKD said: Thought you'd like that 😁🤣 You are probably right, my opinion is probably wrong, he probably shouldn't answer for the pistol whipping either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Rim Fire said: Don't want to sound like a chauvinist but this is where a female officer is no good as backup in a street fight I know exactly what you mean, yes it happens fast, but they did nothing. 1 hour ago, Newbie to this said: can't help but think, would this have even happened, if it was 3 officers from when we had proper recruitment standards for the police. The coppers I've known over the years at Rugby or Judo have been decent lads, but big lads, not lads you'd want to mess with especially with added baton, pistol, taser, training, unfortunately you don't feel that way with a 5 ft WPC. There was a WPC at work last week, armed, but even so with all her gear she looked like a work experience kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 it seems to me that the race card and using violence can be wheeled out at every opportunity if you're a member of a couple of certain demographics. maybe the cops should have just shot 'em 🤔🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted July 28, 2024 Report Share Posted July 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mice! said: I know exactly what you mean, yes it happens fast, but they did nothing. The coppers I've known over the years at Rugby or Judo have been decent lads, but big lads, not lads you'd want to mess with especially with added baton, pistol, taser, training, unfortunately you don't feel that way with a 5 ft WPC. There was a WPC at work last week, armed, but even so with all her gear she looked like a work experience kid. I think it is called 'equal opportunities' ? I can remember when Police Women had their own sections. They never worked nights and dealt mainly with Women and Children. They were paid less than Male Officers. However, due to THEIR screaming for equal pay, it came with equal conditions............sometimes. At that time, the city docks were policed by the County Force. One boss decided that Police Women should also work on the docks, about which they were NOT happy. It lasted less than a week. Women complained that there were no 'Female' toilets on the docks and no 'rest rooms'. They were all withdrawn from that duty. At that time there was also a Female ACC. Such is 'equality' ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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