Lloyd90 Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 The “tech tycoon” who recently managed to get off on a court case for supposedly defrauding billions for falsely inflating the price of his company before selling has just happened to have disappeared (being presumed dead) after his super yacht suddenly sank off the coast of Sicily. A nearby boat captain said he’s never ever seen a boat of that size go down so quickly … The solicitor who got them off was also on board the yacht. Their co-defendant in the same trial wasn’t on the yacht … but odds would have it was struck by a car and killed on the weekend … What an awful run of luck for both men who both happen to be linked to the same case where billions were involved … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 anybody bought the film rights yet will they ever find all the bodies ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 7 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: The “tech tycoon” who recently managed to get off on a court case for supposedly defrauding billions for falsely inflating the price of his company before selling has just happened to have disappeared (being presumed dead) after his super yacht suddenly sank off the coast of Sicily. A nearby boat captain said he’s never ever seen a boat of that size go down so quickly … The solicitor who got them off was also on board the yacht. Their co-defendant in the same trial wasn’t on the yacht … but odds would have it was struck by a car and killed on the weekend … What an awful run of luck for both men who both happen to be linked to the same case where billions were involved … They will probably recover the boat so if an underwater hit man blew the hull at the same time a tornado struck it apparent it will become. Just a very strange coincidence I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicblue Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 Exactly the same thought occurred to me - seems such a coincidence that both co-defendants die on the same weekend. There are reports that divers that have been down to the wreck have found external doors locked. HP paid a lot for Autonomy, HP's shares took a dive after it was revealed that they'd overpaid in the purchase - some shareholders must have lost out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 All very curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 Suggesting that a tornado was somehow engineered is taking the whole chemtrail thing to a complete new level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 22 minutes ago, 39TDS said: Suggesting that a tornado was somehow engineered is taking the whole chemtrail thing to a complete new level. silver nitrate shares have gone up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 I would imagine a storm or tornado would be forecast in advance. I'm not saying I believe it was a hit, but it's certainly a heck of a coincidence. If it has been sabotaged, I'm sure there will be evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 31 minutes ago, 39TDS said: Suggesting that a tornado was somehow engineered is taking the whole chemtrail thing to a complete new level. /\ This. Believe it or not, coincidences do happen by natural means! 3 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: I would imagine a storm or tornado would be forecast in advance It has been reported that storms were forecast, but the vessel must have endured many storms (it was 16 years old) before and nearby vessels didn't sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 Might be able to forecast weather conditions that may lead to a tornado forming but even then they can't say what path it will take. Pretty confident they can't hit a boat with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 Hello, It all looks very Suspicious 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted August 21 Author Report Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, 39TDS said: Suggesting that a tornado was somehow engineered is taking the whole chemtrail thing to a complete new level. Certainly not… but well timing some over act of sabotage whilst happening to experience adverse weather? A storm at the time is great cover … it’s not as if you sink someone’s super yacht on the calmest day of the year and claim it capsized is it? 🤣 41 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: It has been reported that storms were forecast, but the vessel must have endured many storms (it was 16 years old) before and nearby vessels didn't sink. It was also a super yacht … not some flimsy tin boat … And as you say, nearby vessels were fine… the quoted captain obviously being very nearby to witness it going down. I am no conspiracy theorist … but if I was going to “blow a hole” in someone’s yacht or similar… during a storm would be a good time to do it … as opposed to on a nice calm day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 (edited) I'm betting the yacht builders will be very interested. Surely on something like that there would have been someone on deck watch when not underway? Edited August 21 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 from the pictures that i've seen the funnel cloud directly impacted the boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 13 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: I am no conspiracy theorist … but if I was going to “blow a hole” in someone’s yacht or similar… during a storm would be a good time to do it … as opposed to on a nice calm day. At the speed it went down, IF (I don't believe it was) it was caused by a 'hole', it must have been a very big one and will be obvious on the sunken remains. It seems documented that the mast broke first and may have listed it enough to allow water in through open hatches/portholes. If it was hit directly by the 'eye' of a waterspout type storm, that would be very damaging. It seems most likely that insufficient precautions were taken against the storm, which (as a waterspout type) may well have been very fierce over a very small area, thus not damaging any nearby vessels. The speed at which it went down suggests that hatches/portholes were open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 66 Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 I find it amazing that people are reading conspiracy theories into this already. Its very sad that people have lost their lives & devastating for their families. What we should be remembering is that sudden intense summer storms are relatively common in the med & they can be horribly violent. There was one just over a week ago in Ibitha that wrecked a large number of yachts some similar size, by good fortune no one died. But in this case, big yacht with very tall mast (72m) making it the tallest masted yacht going. Many similar yachts have lifting keels to access ports , So was it this configuration & was the keel raised? Its night after a big party & its hot so all the deck hatches & doorways are open. Many passengers & guests are in their cabins with the air con on. You see where im going? Storm comes up fast & then a waterspout, yacht gets laid over on her side by hurricane force wind, hatches are open so the sea rushes in. It does not surprise me it took 5 minutes to sink, it could have been quicker. A smaller 85 ft yacht the Polina star had a keel failure in light winds off Spain a few years ago, basically the keel fell off & peeled a big hole in the bottom. She went down in just two minutes & it was a miracle that nobody was below. Ships sink in storms, it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 3 minutes ago, Keith 66 said: of yachts some similar size, by good fortune no one died. But in this case, big yacht with very tall mast (72m) making it the tallest masted yacht going. Many similar yachts have lifting keels to access ports , So was it this configuration & was the keel raised? Its night after a big party & its hot so all the deck hatches & doorways are open. Many passengers & guests are in their cabins with the air con on. You see where im going? This ^^^^ looks most likely reducing the draft from 10m to 4m. Unless of course the hit men organised waterspouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nublue 22 Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 Robert Maxwell comes to mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 66 Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 In addition many of these superyachts have large open areas & they are built to optimise comfort & luxury. So small openings with watertight doors are not going to be desirable features. Big open areas with large opening ports & hatches or lots of smaller ones can help boats sink. Two good examples the Vasa & the Mary rose, both went down through stability & downflooding through open ports! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 11 hours ago, ditchman said: anybody bought the film rights yet will they ever find all the bodies ? No & No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 I think when the time come after the inquest you will find that everything was above board ( excuse the pun ) and they lost there lives from the result of the storm and bad luck . lives were lost and families and friends will mourning there loss , so lets wait and see to find out what really did happen . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 66 Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 As a British flagged yacht with British citizens aboard it will fall under the MAIB, insurance will see it raised for sure. They will do their job & i suspect make recomendations as to safety issues if any. The facts will come out in a year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 2 hours ago, Keith 66 said: I find it amazing that people are reading conspiracy theories into this already. Its very sad that people have lost their lives & devastating for their families. What we should be remembering is that sudden intense summer storms are relatively common in the med & they can be horribly violent. There was one just over a week ago in Ibitha that wrecked a large number of yachts some similar size, by good fortune no one died. But in this case, big yacht with very tall mast (72m) making it the tallest masted yacht going. Many similar yachts have lifting keels to access ports , So was it this configuration & was the keel raised? Its night after a big party & its hot so all the deck hatches & doorways are open. Many passengers & guests are in their cabins with the air con on. You see where im going? Storm comes up fast & then a waterspout, yacht gets laid over on her side by hurricane force wind, hatches are open so the sea rushes in. It does not surprise me it took 5 minutes to sink, it could have been quicker. A smaller 85 ft yacht the Polina star had a keel failure in light winds off Spain a few years ago, basically the keel fell off & peeled a big hole in the bottom. She went down in just two minutes & it was a miracle that nobody was below. Ships sink in storms, it happens. If the air-conditioning was on would the portholes be open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 4 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: If it has been sabotaged, I'm sure there will be evidence. I very much doubt it, not when your talking about Billions, the odds of those two men dying the same weekend must have been in the Billions, unless they weren't accidents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 66 Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 56 minutes ago, old man said: If the air-conditioning was on would the portholes be open? Who knows? One would think the paid crew would have had some warning & time to batten down hatches etc, but boats like this have big windows & patio doors etc to create big open areas for entertaining, what price those if a waterspout scores a direct hit with winds over & above hurricane force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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