Rise of "the right"

[Houseplant]

On 01/09/2024 at 06:22, ditchman said:

the govt /govts know.... 100% what needs to be done ...but refuses to act...........

WHY

 

I don't think it makes me a right wing nut job to point out that it's about wokeness and importing workers. You're stuck between left wing do-gooders and free market capitalists. 

Edited September 1 by Houseplant

[Yellow Bear]

Let's face it, anything not to the left of what used to be centre left is now hard right and even the old centre left is a bit too right wing for the msm.

[12gauge82]

It's nice to be among some like minded people regarding left/right politics. It's nothing more than a distraction to divide and conquer the majority of the population. 

3 hours ago, ditchman said:

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IVE JUST FOUND OUT IVE BEEN BANNED BY THE GB NEWS FEED COMMENT SECTION.....

That's got to have been a good effort. I dread to think what you said. I can still remember you triggering someone on the airgun section years ago. He was so offended he appeared to go on a alcohol fuelled rant, ranging from insults to conspiracy theories regarding mods on the site and ended up getting himself banned 🤣🤣🤣

[ditchman]

30 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

It's nice to be among some like minded people regarding left/right politics. It's nothing more than a distraction to divide and conquer the majority of the population. 

That's got to have been a good effort. I dread to think what you said. I can still remember you triggering someone on the airgun section years ago. He was so offended he appeared to go on a alcohol fuelled rant, ranging from insults to conspiracy theories regarding mods on the site and ended up getting himself banned 🤣🤣🤣

Hhhhaahhahahaa.........i remember that.......

What i said on the GB news chat site was a reply to a woman who was so far up her own fundamant about "darling prince harry and wonderful megan  "

anyway we had a little aguement...she is the type of person who thinks if you dont agree with her you are 

1. a racist
2. a Neo-nazi
3. a stalinist
4. woman beater
5. TROLL

so i mearly pointed out that she ...............

"was a deluded raddled old hag....and a scophantic royal parasitic lickspittel............"

so she complained for some reason...and i got a tempary ban from posting my comments..........

Edited September 1 by ditchman

[12gauge82]

7 minutes ago, ditchman said:

Hhhhaahhahahaa.........i remember that.......

What i said on the GB news chat site was a reply to a woman who was so far up her own fundamant about "darling prince harry and wonderful megan  "

anyway we had a little aguement...she is the type of person who thinks if you dont agree with her you are 

1. a racist
2. a Neo-nazi
3. a stalinist
4. woman beater
5. TROLL

so i mearly pointed out that she ...............

"was a deluded raddled old hag....and a scophantic royal parasite............"

so she complained for some reason...and i got a tempary ban from posting my comments..........

🤣🤣🤣 That'll do it. 

[Raja Clavata]

The Germans I deal with at work feel that Germany has long served its time for the atrocities it undertook in WW2 and that things need to be rebalanced and brought back under control.

The other thing I constantly hear from them is that the strong work ethic has gone and that basically “nobody” wants to work any more.

I don’t know what the growing shift towards what would traditionally be seen as the right looks like from an age demographic but I suspect it has far more indigenous youngsters than what would be the accepted norm.

[Zoli 12 guage]

6 hours ago, Raja Clavata said:

The Germans I deal with at work feel that Germany has long served its time for the atrocities it undertook in WW2 and that things need to be rebalanced and brought back under control.

The other thing I constantly hear from them is that the strong work ethic has gone and that basically “nobody” wants to work any more.

I don’t know what the growing shift towards what would traditionally be seen as the right looks like from an age demographic but I suspect it has far more indigenous youngsters than what would be the accepted norm.

i always found the Hermans pretty good to work with but not so much the Frogs 👍

AND none of them follow the same H&S rules as us😡

[Raja Clavata]

1 hour ago, Zoli 12 guage said:

i always found the Hermans pretty good to work with but not so much the Frogs 👍

AND none of them follow the same H&S rules as us😡

I work for a French headquartered company and concur on the Germans being easier to work with. If I had to pick though I’d choose Portuguese all day long👍

[ditchman]

42 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

I work for a French headquartered company and concur on the Germans being easier to work with. If I had to pick though I’d choose Portuguese all day long👍

the portugese have a long history doing seasonal work in the UK....i remember them flooding over for the harvest and the autumn.....they used to work their nuts off and got well paid for it ...then went home with a big wadge of cash...

[Penelope]

On 31/08/2024 at 19:44, Weihrauch17 said:

Because they are WEF stooges as is King Jug Ears and mass Immigration into the West is their top priority along with the economy wrecking insanity of Net Zero.

Marxism by the back door.

18 hours ago, Mungler said:

There’s no left or right anymore.

Labour want to promote a class war between the haves and the have nots but the idea that there’s a hill with all the conservatives and capitalists on the top and suppressed workers at the bottom under their boots is 100 years behind the times.

We are now seeing traditional Labour supporters vote in droves for the right / Reform. And the conservatives certainly aren’t conservatives anymore.

The lines are forming around sensible and pragmatic vs dreamy unworkable nonsense.

I maintain that economics needs to be taught in schools alongside maths and English from day 1.

 

And they’d be right.

Im not one for conspiracy theories but the uncontrolled mass immigration under the conservatives (contrary to manifesto promises) baffles me. And even when we had a head start watching the detrimental effects in Europe and just what can be seen with our own eyes in all the major cities in the UK and yet it *will* only get worse over the next 5 years. Labour have no plan and killed the only available plan.

 

No, just the sane verus the insane.

[Vince Green]

At one time the young were radicalised towards left thinking politics. I remember being inundated at school with ban the bomb and it's later form CND

At college it was Socialist Worker and the Workers Revolutionary Party. You couldn't sit down in the Refectory or the Bar without someone sidling up to you trying to start a conversation . Greenpeace was at it as well

Two impressions now looking back. The first was it was organised and coordinated. Secondly, what they told us was utterly untrue. 

Now through the Internet, Russian and Chinese trolls are trying to stir up civil unrest on Patriot sites in America. Feeding people's grievances. I have no doubt the same cyber trolls are doing the same in Britain and Europe with the disaffected youth. It's a fertile audience.

 

Edited September 2 by Vince Green

[Penelope]

33 minutes ago, ditchman said:

the portugese have a long history doing seasonal work in the UK....i remember them flooding over for the harvest and the autumn.....they used to work their nuts off and got well paid for it ...then went home with a big wadge of cash...

Our oldest continueing ally, too.

[old man]

23 hours ago, armsid said:

And it will not get better until Govs. in Europe take their fingers out of their ears and listen to peoples concerns

A lovely thought?

13 hours ago, Houseplant said:

 

I don't think it makes me a right wing nut job to point out that it's about wokeness and importing workers. You're stuck between left wing do-gooders and free market capitalists. 

A brilliant analysis.

[Mungler]

25 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

At one time the young were radicalised towards left thinking politics. I remember being inundated at school with ban the bomb and it's later form CND

At college it was Socialist Worker and the Workers Revolutionary Party. You couldn't sit down in the Refectory or the Bar without someone sidling up to you trying to start a conversation . Greenpeace was at it as well

Two impressions now looking back. The first was it was organised and coordinated. Secondly, what they told us was utterly untrue. 

Now through the Internet, Russian and Chinese trolls are trying to stir up civil unrest on Patriot sites in America. Feeding people's grievances. I have no doubt the same cyber trolls are doing the same in Britain and Europe with the disaffected youth. It's a fertile audience.

 

I have similar observations and experiences.

Back end of the 70’s and into the 80’s the country was in the toilet. Nothing worked and unemployment was off the chart - songs were written about it. Radicalism had fertile soil with such a bleak outlook. 

Nowadays, unemployment is actually a personal choice. Moreover, if you can make it out of school being able to read, write and operate a laptop you can do pretty much whatever it is you set your mind to. 

Most grievances spin round housing and that’s the wound that Labour will focus on. No one looks any deeper as to why there’s a housing shortage - the young did in Holland and they voted ‘right’.

I also see that a lot of the discontent is now looking at why we still can’t just even talk about immigration and as with Brexit, there’s a growing sense of the elites not listening and mugging everyone off with labels of racist and far right to suppress a long overdue discussion. Out of everyone I know (and I know a lot of people) I’d say that I can’t think of anyone who wouldn’t share the view that mass uncontrolled immigration has to stop and is now detrimental. So, why do we get more of the same? It won’t end well. 

Add in the economic reporting breaking through that undermines the ‘we need cheap Labour’ mantra and which highlights the long term cost of feeding, housing, educating, supporting a million a year… and the off spring of that million a year. 

Demographics is destiny. We’ve seen how London votes, and how easily the dreamy loons of the Green Party got taken over in various constituencies. As Douglas Murray once noted, economic migrants immediately knit their own safety blanket in the form of ultra large families - and why not, they come from areas where large families otherwise starve and are not housed and supported by the state for free, so who wouldn’t? 

The pendulum is swinging back - the obvious one is there is now far less talk of asylum seekers which is how we were all originally sold the lie. 
.

Edited September 2 by Mungler

[100milesaway]

20 hours ago, oowee said:

🤣 What's your problem with Rayner's video? Just having some fun. You want to see me dancing 🤣🤣🤣

I think the problem with Trump (setting aside his corruption, fraud, misogyny, rape, and dementia) is project 2025. He is no longer pulling the strings. 

Loves their country? What is that? 

Something you could never understand.

From Auntie.

[oldypigeonpopper]

52 minutes ago, Penelope said:

Our oldest continueing ally, too.

Hello, I met many years ago a group from Czech Republic who did fruit picking for 6 months then went back home as there were many many unemployed in their Country, after 6 months they came back, most had Uni degrees 

[oowee]

2 hours ago, Vince Green said:

 

Now through the Internet, Russian and Chinese trolls are trying to stir up civil unrest on Patriot sites in America. Feeding people's grievances. I have no doubt the same cyber trolls are doing the same in Britain and Europe with the disaffected youth. It's a fertile audience.

 

Make no mistake China and Russia are fueling the fire of grievance on both sides of the coin. I have no idea what a 'patriot site' is relative to an unpatriotic site but for the bots it makes no difference what the argument or on what side they agitate. 

[Stonepark]

11 minutes ago, oowee said:

Make no mistake China and Russia are fueling the fire of grievance on both sides of the coin. I have no idea what a 'patriot site' is relative to an unpatriotic site but for the bots it makes no difference what the argument or on what side they agitate. 

Make no mistake, people such as you are the biggest fuelers of the fire of grievance in any country, though you choose to try to blame everyone else.

The current shower of #### led by Stammer, Mandleson , Reeves and Cooper etc al excemplify ezcaxtly what happens when you let weak, self centred, cultist, incompetent people rise to power due to a small number of the extreme left and  indifference by the masses.

As a reaction, the masses wake up and rebel (and whilst in former times this would lead to armed revolution) nowadays it will result in the current government imploding at some point and next government rebounding to the right to repair the damage as it always does when sensible, competent people get back into government.

[ditchman]

2 hours ago, Vince Green said:

At one time the young were radicalised towards left thinking politics. I remember being inundated at school with ban the bomb and it's later form CND

At college it was Socialist Worker and the Workers Revolutionary Party. You couldn't sit down in the Refectory or the Bar without someone sidling up to you trying to start a conversation . Greenpeace was at it as well

Two impressions now looking back. The first was it was organised and coordinated. Secondly, what they told us was utterly untrue. 

Now through the Internet, Russian and Chinese trolls are trying to stir up civil unrest on Patriot sites in America. Feeding people's grievances. I have no doubt the same cyber trolls are doing the same in Britain and Europe with the disaffected youth. It's a fertile audience.

 

i hope to god people dont think im in that catorgary as well...

[oowee]

19 minutes ago, Stonepark said:

Make no mistake, people such as you are the biggest fuelers of the fire of grievance in any country, though you choose to try to blame everyone else.

The current shower of #### led by Stammer, Mandleson , Reeves and Cooper etc al excemplify ezcaxtly what happens when you let weak, self centred, cultist, incompetent people rise to power due to a small number of the extreme left and  indifference by the masses.

As a reaction, the masses wake up and rebel (and whilst in former times this would lead to armed revolution) nowadays it will result in the current government imploding at some point and next government rebounding to the right to repair the damage as it always does when sensible, competent people get back into government.

🙂 that's exactly how this lot got in. 

When you have no argument attack the messenger rather than the message 🤔

 

[Mungler]

Like Holland it’s the young who are heading to the ‘far right’.

 

[Vince Green]

2 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, I met many years ago a group from Czech Republic who did fruit picking for 6 months then went back home as there were many many unemployed in their Country, after 6 months they came back, most had Uni degrees 

My late mum's cleaner came from Hungary with her husband.  They were both school teachers where they came from but over here she cleaned people's houses for £16 an hour. More than four times, nearly five times what she would earn as a teacher.

He drove a truck over here for a Polish agency. That wasn't so good because he would be away from home, on the road, for weeks at a time . He soon got fed up with that.

I believe they have gone back to Hungary  now but have taken all the money they earned with them. I don't believe either of them ever paid a penny in UK tax during the whole time they were here .

[TIGHTCHOKE]

2 hours ago, ditchman said:

i hope to god people dont think im in that catorgary as well...

What, EDUCATED? We know far better than that...................

[oldypigeonpopper]

18 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

My late mum's cleaner came from Hungary with her husband.  They were both school teachers where they came from but over here she cleaned people's houses for £16 an hour. More than four times, nearly five times what she would earn as a teacher.

He drove a truck over here for a Polish agency. That wasn't so good because he would be away from home, on the road, for weeks at a time . He soon got fed up with that.

I believe they have gone back to Hungary  now but have taken all the money they earned with them. I don't believe either of them ever paid a penny in UK tax during the whole time they were here .

Hello, There were about 20 all living on the farm , single/ married couples all from same area, realy nice people, 6 month work here was 12 month pay there

[Savhmr]

"Far Right" = Any view that doesn't correlate with left wing and woke politics;

Mainstream Media have been quick to become echo chambers for the hard left, and brand ordinary, fairly conservative citizens who wish to protest against growing illegal immigration, protest against rape gangs and two tier policing and opposing woke politics in all its colours as "Far Right".  It's a cop out.

Under Starmer's government, "free speech" simply means you're allowed to express a view as long as it echoes their views.  Anyone found guilty of saying anything to the contrary is accused of "hate speech".  It's standard practice and there's plenty of evidence from groups like ANTIFA, that it's almost a tactic taken from their marxist ideology to force closure on debate an dialogue.  Everything Labour is planning involving clamping down on free speech is aimed at shutting down opposition.  Sound familiar?   China and Russia spring to mine.

The most insidious and worrying aspect of all of this are plans afoot to criminalise "thought"!  Yes, that's right!....Labour plans to give police new powers to arrest people caught praying in the street, where Christian values might "offend" non-Christians, and that includes anyone within a specified distance of say an abortion centre, standing alone, praying silently for the women with unborn children availing themselves of these places.  Not interfering mind, not obstructing, protesting or in fact being stood close to one.  Anyone within 150m of such places having the affront to be in public, standing, silently praying on their own, or in small groups, will be liable for arrest and imprisonment.  I know a lady who was arrested in Glasgow for being a few hundred metres from one, and was silently praying on a street corner.  It's already passed as law by the SNP.  She spent several weeks in jail for that "offence"

What the hell is the UK coming to?

Edited September 3 by Savhmr