oowee Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0jl8973meo Unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Guessing it's the one thar was rallying through the flooded town centre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 I saw that , what a total nutter , they have now charged him with criminal damage , maybe he will slow down next time . MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 6 minutes ago, oowee said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0jl8973meo Unreal. But not uncommon - Daughter was managing a shop in Matlock and had it happen to her 2/3 times over the last 4 years, shop would have escaped if not for these plonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 26 Author Report Share Posted November 26 1 minute ago, Yellow Bear said: But not uncommon - Daughter was managing a shop in Matlock and had it happen to her 2/3 times over the last 4 years, shop would have escaped if not for these plonkers. They are a menace by us when doing the silage or muck spreading but not seen this in floods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Do we know why he went by so fast? This happened in my hometown during Storm Desmond, but in that case it was a fire engine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 2 hours ago, Scully said: Do we know why he went by so fast? This happened in my hometown during Storm Desmond, but in that case it was a fire engine! The mentality of a young boy racer in a hatchback, but this bloke was 57 i think, deserves the book thrown at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 Probably just looking where he was going not at what he was leaving behind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 Just look at that bow wave, he must have known what he was doing and the trouble it would cause. https://news.sky.com/story/man-arrested-after-tractor-filmed-being-driven-through-floodwater-during-storm-bert-13261160 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 Looking at the way he was driving it did look deliberate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 9 hours ago, Dougy said: The mentality of a young boy racer in a hatchback, but this bloke was 57 i think, deserves the book thrown at him. So you don’t know then, you’re just jumping to conclusions? He could possibly have had a call from an elderly Mother, or someone else close to him who was trapped and in danger? I must admit, if I was racing to get to one of my kids or similar, I’d be in a rush too. All I’m saying is that unless we know the circumstances we shouldn’t be too quick to judge. He may well be just an idiot; judging by the size of that bow wave and the wake he was creating he’d have to be aware of the damage he was causing, surely? If it was deliberate then he deserves all he gets, but until we know. 🤷♂️ The fire engine that did the same in my home town wasn’t even attending an emergency, just trying to help, but the streets are narrow and buildings in both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 The damage was done , before. The tractor entered the street . As Scully. Says what was his reason. Was he scared to drive. Slow for fear of his engine. Getting flooded. He did not cause. The flood . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nublue 22 Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 He's probably lost what with those tall brick things and water everywhere, the last time he opened his eyes there was just green everywhere then panic set in, that would be my defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 I’ve just read the first few lines of an article and then found out that I had to pay to read the rest of it (I didn’t pay). What I can say though, is that within those first few lines it stated that the tractor driver in question was rushing to save a child’s life. Hopefully someone else may read the full article and she’s more light on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 4 minutes ago, Spr1985 said: I’ve just read the first few lines of an article and then found out that I had to pay to read the rest of it (I didn’t pay). What I can say though, is that within those first few lines it stated that the tractor driver in question was rushing to save a child’s life. Hopefully someone else may read the full article and she’s more light on it. If that is the case then he may be seen as justified in his reckless drive through the floodwaters. https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360501543/tractor-driver-arrested-after-driving-through-flooded-uk-town-and-causing-damaging-swells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: If that is the case then he may be seen as justified in his reckless drive through the floodwaters. I would agree Tc, driving like that with no good reason and knowing full well that you are going to cause further damage to others property is a disgraceful act. But, if another humans life is on the line that changes, when it comes to a child even more so. As I said I don’t know the ins and outs as I didn’t read the full article but it’s looking like he felt he had good reason. If it was me, I’d do the same and take the consequences knowing I’d done everything within my power to help that person and preserve life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 5 hours ago, Scully said: So you don’t know then, you’re just jumping to conclusions? He could possibly have had a call from an elderly Mother, or someone else close to him who was trapped and in danger? I must admit, if I was racing to get to one of my kids or similar, I’d be in a rush too. All I’m saying is that unless we know the circumstances we shouldn’t be too quick to judge. He may well be just an idiot; judging by the size of that bow wave and the wake he was creating he’d have to be aware of the damage he was causing, surely? If it was deliberate then he deserves all he gets, but until we know. 🤷♂️ The fire engine that did the same in my home town wasn’t even attending an emergency, just trying to help, but the streets are narrow and buildings in both sides. My post was after i had read that the guy was arrested and released on bail, so the conclusion i jump to was that he had done something wrong, hence being arrested and my comment regarding the mentality of a young boy racer. I have driven through flood water through a village with houses front doors opening directly onto the path of a single lane road, but i drove through considering the wave i was creating. trying to reduce the bow wave going over any flood defenses. He showed no consideration whatsoever hence deserving the book heading in his direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 37 minutes ago, Dougy said: My post was after i had read that the guy was arrested and released on bail, so the conclusion i jump to was that he had done something wrong, hence being arrested and my comment regarding the mentality of a young boy racer. I have driven through flood water through a village with houses front doors opening directly onto the path of a single lane road, but i drove through considering the wave i was creating. trying to reduce the bow wave going over any flood defenses. He showed no consideration whatsoever hence deserving the book heading in his direction. Being arrested could be for the police to carry out a prompt and effective investigation, not necessarily an indication of guilt. I'm also fairly certain the charge of criminal damage starts along the lines of without reasonable excuse. So if he has one, he nay have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law. The other part is dangerous driving, I don't know what Defence there is for that if any. Either way, time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 55 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Being arrested could be for the police to carry out a prompt and effective investigation, not necessarily an indication of guilt. I'm also fairly certain the charge of criminal damage starts along the lines of without reasonable excuse. So if he has one, he nay have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law. The other part is dangerous driving, I don't know what Defence there is for that if any. Either way, time will tell. Its a good job i'm not not judge and jury then. I still stand by my comments, if it turns out he was driving in such an inconsiderate way to save a life then fine he had a reason, i doubt it, but lets see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 The water was up nearly over the engine he was going to leave a bow wave going threw it anyway maybe scared if he went slow if would flood the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 2 hours ago, Dougy said: My post was after i had read that the guy was arrested and released on bail, so the conclusion i jump to was that he had done something wrong, hence being arrested and my comment regarding the mentality of a young boy racer. I have driven through flood water through a village with houses front doors opening directly onto the path of a single lane road, but i drove through considering the wave i was creating. trying to reduce the bow wave going over any flood defenses. He showed no consideration whatsoever hence deserving the book heading in his direction. All I’m suggesting is we wait until we know the circumstances leading to, or the reasons he did what he did. Thats it. He may well be a knobhead, but until we know one way or another why he showed no consideration for others, we shouldn’t jump to conclusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 Going slightly off topic , in the Summer the Broads Authority issued out a load of speeding tickets for breaking the speed limit on the waterways , and believe it or not the speed limit is between 3 and 6 miles an hour , more than that the boats create to much bow wave which could damage the reed beds and the embankments , 3 m p h is well below my walking pace and I am already slowing down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 From GloucestershireLive; "A tractor driver arrested after allegedly ploughing his vehicle through flooded streets was rushing to get to a child, friends say. The motorist, branded an "industrial-strength idiot" after footage posted on social media showed a wave from the tractor's wake smash windows in in Tenbury Wells, has issued an apology through friends for damages caused to town buildings. Police investigating the clip a 57-year-old man on Tuesday on suspicion of criminal damage and dangerous driving. He has since been released on bail, West Mercia Police said. The video, shared widely on social media, shows a wave from the tractor's wake hitting shop windows as flood water surged through the town during Storm Bert at the weekend. A friend of the man, said to be a landowner in the market town, issued an apology on his behalf on social media, while others said he "did something without thinking". Another friend also took to social media on the man's behalf, writing: "I have been asked to pass on a message of apology from the driver of the tractor. "The tractor was being taken to an employee so he could use it to get through the rising floodwaters to collect his child. In his rush to get it to his member of staff, he realised too late that he drove faster than he should have, and didn't consider the impact on surrounding buildings. He is deeply sorry for the upset and damage caused. He has spoken with police and his insurance company and will do whatever is necessary to put things right." But many business owners said the action created damage to already-flood-hit premises and worsened flooding in some areas protected by sandbags, reports The Mirror. In the video people can be heard saying: "That's caused so much damage, all the shops up the high street." Shop owners in Tenbury Wells say their shop windows were smashed when a tractor driver drove through flood-water in the town. pic.twitter.com/UvAmmPG7jW Darren Pugh, who runs a jewellery shop in Tenbury with his wife Carol, said he came '"very close" to being swept away. He told the Daily Mail he was stood waiting to be picked up by a fire service boat and taken to his shop when "the tractor approached and it sent a wave much higher than the front of my shop premise, at least 11, 12 feet up the front of the Crow Inn and pushed all the front doorway in. I climbed the trellis on the bridge to get out of the way because the wave would have pushed me into the brook." Milo and Bridie Jackson, of Unwined Tapas Restaurant and Bar, said their business had been "utterly devastated". Mr Jackson said: "The tractor bow wave destroyed our entrance Christmas garland which was up to 1.2 metres (4ft), showing how high the wave was as it hit the restaurant. We are a family business and we've all been here working flat out for two days (to clear up)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 23 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: The tractor was being taken to an employee so he could use it to get through the rising floodwaters to collect his child. In his rush to get it to his member of staff Bit different when you read collect, that's not an emergency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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