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Ive never been a fan of Trump, I don't like the way he speaks, he appears arrogant, boastful and at times disrespectful and always considered him a bit of a narcissist. 

All that said, I can't deny my negative opinions of him have shifted, while I still find the language he uses to be at best un-diplomatic, there have been several events that have led me to believe, nobody can question his determination, belief in his own set of principles and ability to lead and get things done. 

He's just secured a cease fire between Israel and Palestine before even taking office, beaten an obvious attempt at politically motivated lawfair, won a second term in office, despite clear media bias, was the first American leader to visit North Korea, is clearly respected by strong man dictators around the world, and crucially for me, although less of a measureble achievement, showed great courage during a very nearly successful assassination attempt, which stood out for me, as his bravery in the face of near death is not something someone can fain, I felt it was a glimpse at his inner self that couldn't be faked. I believe most world leaders would have understandably cowered behind their security. 

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14 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

Ive never been a fan of Trump, I don't like the way he speaks, he appears arrogant, boastful and at times disrespectful and always considered him a bit of a narcissist. 

All that said, I can't deny my negative opinions of him have shifted, while I still find the language he uses to be at best un-diplomatic, there have been several events that have led me to believe, nobody can question his determination, belief in his own set of principles and ability to lead and get things done. 

He's just secured a cease fire between Israel and Palestine before even taking office, beaten an obvious attempt at politically motivated lawfair, won a second term in office, despite clear media bias, was the first American leader to visit North Korea, is clearly respected by strong man dictators around the world, and crucially for me, although less of a measureble achievement, showed great courage during a very nearly successful assassination attempt, which stood out for me, as his bravery in the face of near death is not something someone can fain, I felt it was a glimpse at his inner self that couldn't be faked. I believe most world leaders would have understandably cowered behind their security. 

He isn't a leader - he has no leadership qualities. He can rouse a rabble, but is then curiously missing in action. He didn't secure the ceasefire. He wasn't the victim of lawfair (would you want him dating your daughter or handling your investment). There is no media bias - Trump gets away with things that would sink most politicians. He isn't respected, he's regarded as a useful idiot by authoritarian states. Courage? - he's a bully and therefore fundamentally a coward. Outraged when people won't kiss his ring.

Some people will get the President they deserve...

 

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1 hour ago, LeadWasp said:

He isn't a leader - he has no leadership qualities. He can rouse a rabble, but is then curiously missing in action. He didn't secure the ceasefire. He wasn't the victim of lawfair (would you want him dating your daughter or handling your investment). There is no media bias - Trump gets away with things that would sink most politicians. He isn't respected, he's regarded as a useful idiot by authoritarian states. Courage? - he's a bully and therefore fundamentally a coward. Outraged when people won't kiss his ring.

Some people will get the President they deserve...

 

While not everyones cup of tea, including mine, respectfully, I think you, like many other people, have underestimated him, but I respect your opinion 👍

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2 hours ago, LeadWasp said:

He isn't a leader - he has no leadership qualities. He can rouse a rabble, but is then curiously missing in action. He didn't secure the ceasefire. He wasn't the victim of lawfair (would you want him dating your daughter or handling your investment). There is no media bias - Trump gets away with things that would sink most politicians. He isn't respected, he's regarded as a useful idiot by authoritarian states. Courage? - he's a bully and therefore fundamentally a coward. Outraged when people won't kiss his ring.

Some people will get the President they deserve...

 

You forgot narcissist and arrogant..😁.... lets hope we are proven wrong

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2 hours ago, LeadWasp said:

He isn't a leader - he has no leadership qualities. He can rouse a rabble, but is then curiously missing in action. He didn't secure the ceasefire. He wasn't the victim of lawfair (would you want him dating your daughter or handling your investment). There is no media bias - Trump gets away with things that would sink most politicians. He isn't respected, he's regarded as a useful idiot by authoritarian states. Courage? - he's a bully and therefore fundamentally a coward. Outraged when people won't kiss his ring.

Some people will get the President they deserve...

 

 

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2 hours ago, Gordon R said:

It makes me smile that people sneer about Trump, when the UK has Starmer, Rayner, Cooper, Lammy and Reeves. He is an intellectual heavyweight compared to these.

what a frightening comparison..........the UK politicle system is a world wide embarrasment

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6 hours ago, Gordon R said:

It makes me smile that people sneer about Trump, when the UK has Starmer, Rayner, Cooper, Lammy and Reeves. He is an intellectual heavyweight compared to these.

Couldn't agree more about the UK offerings but trump the bleach drinker an intellectual heavyweight . 

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6 hours ago, Gordon R said:

It makes me smile that people sneer about Trump, when the UK has Starmer, Rayner, Cooper, Lammy and Reeves. He is an intellectual heavyweight compared to these.

Yes indeed, after all they are all just bloody POLITICIANS.   :rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Yes indeed, after all they are all just bloody POLITICIANS.   :rolleyes:

At risk of a visit from the FBI hit squad or being socially excluded by the vegan labour against oil party. I think all those that choose to rule the world, should be locked up in a secure old people's home with full access to very sharp cutlery 

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Trump will do America and working class Americans good. What he inflicts on the rest of the world in the process remains to be seen.

Whilst Trump may work for America, in my opinion, it’s a bit of a leap of faith to suggest he’s exactly what we need in this country.

And, if he’s an intellectual heavyweight, then I’m the Queen of Sheba.

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Just now, Raja Clavata said:

Trump will do America and working class Americans good. What he inflicts on the rest of the world in the process remains to be seen.

Whilst Trump may work for America, in my opinion, it’s a bit of a leap of faith to suggest he’s exactly what we need in this country.

And, if he’s an intellectual heavyweight, then I’m the Queen of Sheba.

Compared to some of our current and recent shower he might be regarded as intellectual your majesty.  :cool1:

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