enfieldspares Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Axel Rudakubana wasn't stopped. A start might be by asking questions of Priti Patel who was Home Secretary during the three times Rudakubana was referred to the prevent scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 37 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: A start might be by asking questions of Priti Patel who was Home Secretary Is that the same Priti Patel that was hounded out of post by lefty civil servants? Probably one of the things they did not want to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Is that the same Priti Patel that was hounded out of post by lefty civil servants? Probably one of the things they did not want to do I believe it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Is that the same Priti Patel that was hounded out of post by lefty civil servants? Probably one of the things they did not want to do Not then resigned as Home Secretary so that Liz Truss could appoint her own choice to hold that office as Secretary of State? She wasn't "hounded out" as she remained in post until Johnson resigned as Prime Minister and was replaced by Truss. But never let the facts spoil the spin. Edited January 21 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 She was hounded out. Civil Servants were leaking rumours that she wanted things done quickly and properly, which wouldn't really suit their agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 26 minutes ago, Gordon R said: She was hounded out. Civil Servants were leaking rumours that she wanted things done quickly and properly, which wouldn't really suit their agenda. Anonymous bullying claims as I remember, likely her methods were a bit too radical for the leftist agenda of the civil servants under her charge, so they got their heads together... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmo9 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Apologies if this suggestion has been offered before but shouldn’t our ‘establishment’ negotiate with those countries where these violent individuals have came from, to accept them back to serve their sentence in their own country’s prison system.? I know there’ll be costs to our country associated with funding/managing this suggestion but long-term, must be cheaper than housing them here for the duration and there’ll be able to re-embrace their own cultures and food too.. Those who are 2nd Gen. criminals should perhaps experience the climate/culture in Rwanda perhaps.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Worth watching Jim Davidsons video of this on YouTube, I think he speaks for a great many of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 On 20/01/2025 at 20:31, Bigbob said: Life can be whatever the judge decides is the minimum sentence to be served. So he could be sentenced to life with a minimum term of 40/50/60 years. He could also be given a whole life term meaning he never gets out 🤞🏼 3 hours ago, Salmo9 said: Apologies if this suggestion has been offered before but shouldn’t our ‘establishment’ negotiate with those countries where these violent individuals have came from, to accept them back to serve their sentence in their own country’s prison system.? I know there’ll be costs to our country associated with funding/managing this suggestion but long-term, must be cheaper than housing them here for the duration and there’ll be able to re-embrace their own cultures and food too.. Those who are 2nd Gen. criminals should perhaps experience the climate/culture in Rwanda perhaps.. He was born here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 I wonder if 2TK's redfining of terror will include Hunt Sabs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 On 20/01/2025 at 15:11, Westley said: Liverpool has a secure unit for the criminally insane. Park Lane er......Hospital There was a high security place on the grounds of the old Rainhill hospital. Quick check and it is called Scott Clinic (now) - don’t know if that is what it is still used for though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakiepie Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Cannot be given a Whole Life sentence as he was under 18 at the time of the offences. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, peakiepie said: Cannot be given a Whole Life sentence as he was under 18 at the time of the offences. Shame. He will REALLY struggle inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1066 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: He will REALLY struggle inside. I hope so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 This whole situation would be funny if it were not so tragic. The scum had got in a Taxi the week before armed with a knife and intent on a school massacre but had been talked out of it by his father, he had been expelled numerous times from school for carrying a knife and had a Al Qaeda training manual and had been making Ricin at home. He had been flagged up to Refrain. On the other hand a guy in Milton Keynes had his guns removed for using "colourful language", it really does beggar belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Sentencing today at 11:00, I bet he gets an easy life in a secure institution, if he goes to prison he will be a marked man and in solitary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted January 23 Author Report Share Posted January 23 13 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Sentencing today at 11:00, I bet he gets an easy life in a secure institution, if he goes to prison he will be a marked man and in solitary. That's what I'm expecting (easy), but at the same time Starmer needs this to go his way, I'm hoping the lad gets hammered with multiple life sentences and left to rot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, Mice! said: That's what I'm expecting (easy), but at the same time Starmer needs this to go his way, I'm hoping the lad gets hammered with multiple life sentences and left to rot. Unfortunately because he was 17 at the time of the offence he cannot be given full life orders, but with three murders of innocent young girls and numerous attempted murders I really hope he never sets foot in our world ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 16 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: He will REALLY struggle inside. That'll depend on the prison and population he ends up with. There will be many inside, of a certain demographic, who will see him as a hero, I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Just now, Penelope said: That'll depend on the prison and population he ends up with. There will be many inside, of a certain demographic, who will see him as a hero, I suspect. And MANY more who will see him as a TARGET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: And MANY more who will see him as a TARGET. We live in hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 4 hours ago, bruno22rf said: This whole situation would be funny if it were not so tragic. The scum had got in a Taxi the week before armed with a knife and intent on a school massacre but had been talked out of it by his father, he had been expelled numerous times from school for carrying a knife and had a Al Qaeda training manual and had been making Ricin at home. He had been flagged up to Refrain. On the other hand a guy in Milton Keynes had his guns removed for using "colourful language", it really does beggar belief. If he was Irish, he would have had a night visit from the SAS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 It would appear that the SCUM has chest pains, possibly caused by realising how long he will go down for. The sentencing continues with the dock empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 27 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: It would appear that the SCUM has chest pains, possibly caused by realising how long he will go down for. The sentencing continues with the dock empty. Should be neck pains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, johnphilip said: Should be neck pains Yup, while it separates from the rest of his body ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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