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Osborne's £30 billion Brexit Budget threat


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Thanks for posting Danger-Mouse, I like Rees Mogg always gives a calm collected response to questions.

 

You`re welcome. Yes I rather like him too. Clearly a product of the finest schooling money can buy, combined with a very sharp wit. But also very traditional and concerned with the value of democracy.

 

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This sort of proves my point. Although maybe I should have included comic timing.

 

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It's been asked before, but it's worth asking again for those who are hard of thinking.

 

If you were asked to join the EU as it stands now .... would you? :rolleyes:

 

If anybody can honestly answer 'yes', then you'll get everything that you deserve I'm afraid.

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Just more lies and prophesies of doom. A budget like that would never get voted through parliament and if we vote out I doubt Osborne will be chancellor for long anyway.

suggested on the radio today, whatever the vote Osborne and Cameron will be looking for work soon :)

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Thanks for posting DM; brilliant stuff and should be compulsory viewing for the nations voters. It just goes to show what happens when you blatantly lie in order to deceive for the purpose of an agenda.

I can't put into words the extent of how I despise people of this nature. I have watched Andrew Neil give no quarter to either side, and refreshing it is to see.

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What's more, this scare story looks like it will make it to the news. Corbyn says no to further austerity and so do the rebels: no 'emergency' budget. Sometimes these things just backfire and more credibility is lost.

 

The daily politics interview was brilliant, just like the one the previous day with Digby Jones taking apart Rachel Reeves even though hosted by Jo C.

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For those undecided, remember what it was like when you first left home.

You knew what you had, you knew the rules (made by mum and dad) and followed them. But you wanted a place of your own a chance to follow rules that you made, you were uncertain if could you afford this bill, could you pay that bill. But you took a leap into the unknown against living in the status quo and things have generally worked out fine.

 

So take that leap and vote out

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For those undecided, remember what it was like when you first left home.

You knew what you had, you knew the rules (made by mum and dad) and followed them. But you wanted a place of your own a chance to follow rules that you made, you were uncertain if could you afford this bill, could you pay that bill. But you took a leap into the unknown against living in the status quo and things have generally worked out fine.

 

So take that leap and vote out

It's not the unknown, some of us have been there before and we quite liked it. If you're in doubt just follow the ones that know the way :good:

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Thanks for posting DM; brilliant stuff and should be compulsory viewing for the nations voters. It just goes to show what happens when you blatantly lie in order to deceive for the purpose of an agenda.

I can't put into words the extent of how I despise people of this nature. I have watched Andrew Neil give no quarter to either side, and refreshing it is to see.

 

Andrew Neil has been excellent.

 

What's more, this scare story looks like it will make it to the news. Corbyn says no to further austerity and so do the rebels: no 'emergency' budget. Sometimes these things just backfire and more credibility is lost.

 

The daily politics interview was brilliant, just like the one the previous day with Digby Jones taking apart Rachel Reeves even though hosted by Jo C.

 

Ah yes, another excellent interview.

 

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I am afraid to say I am wavering. I was strongly out, have an out poster on my car and wear out badges. However I fear that was my heart speaking. The closer we get my head is beginning to worry me.

That's fine, I'm sure my children will forgive you ............... possibly :no:

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I am afraid to say I am wavering. I was strongly out, have an out poster on my car and wear out badges. However I fear that was my heart speaking. The closer we get my head is beginning to worry me.

 

You might just let your head brake your heart if you vote to remain.

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Its on topic so read it all.

 

A man died and went to Heaven. As he stood in front of the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, 'What are all those clocks?'
St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone who has ever been on earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie, the hands on your clock move.'
... 'Oh', said the man. 'Whose clock is that?'
'That's Mother Teresa's', replied St. Peter. 'The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie.'
'Incredible', said the man. 'And whose clock is that one?'
St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abraham told only two lies in his entire life.'
'Where's David Cameron’s and George Osborne’s clocks?' asked the man.
St Peter replied, 'We are using them as a ceiling fans.

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I am afraid to say I am wavering. I was strongly out, have an out poster on my car and wear out badges. However I fear that was my heart speaking. The closer we get my head is beginning to worry me.

It's good to question and challenge your own beliefs, otherwise you become close minded and dogmatic :good:

 

I was an inny then an outy. I'm now an outy but with inny leanings. I can see the economic benefits, and the benefits of having someone 'at the table', but the insurmountable issues for me are the lack of democratic process and the what the future EU will become if unchecked, so I'm crrently more likely to vote out

 

I see it as not so much a choice between which path we take as which vehicle we choose to ride on. Remember though, there is not a right or wrong vote, just a vote as to which is marginally better.

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It's good to question and challenge your own beliefs, otherwise you become close minded and dogmatic :good:

 

I was an inny then an outy. I'm now an outy but with inny leanings. I can see the economic benefits, and the benefits of having someone 'at the table', but the insurmountable issues for me are the lack of democratic process and the what the future EU will become if unchecked, so I'm crrently more likely to vote out

 

I see it as not so much a choice between which path we take as which vehicle we choose to ride on. Remember though, there is not a right or wrong vote, just a vote as to which is marginally better.

Very well put. I think we are seeing a wave of opinion across the member states for a change in accountability. To some extent the original members have been (including the UK) holding back the tide but its coming.

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No one is or can give you solid facts as to what will happen after an exit, there are however solid facts as to what being in EU brings as well as facts if we get out, you then need to make a decision yourself, you'll be told lies on both sides, what I was getting at is it annoys me where people have not looked at it and made an informed decision either way but are voting in for the simple reason that that's all they know. I think those people should stay at home regardless if they would vote in or out.

Exactly

As want to make an informed decision but both sides just keep throwing figures and statements up

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We should be looking at the political wasteland this referendum is going to leave us with whichever way the vote goes. Labour is completely paralysed, you could say, effectively, dead in the water, certainly incapable of functioning as a political party. I don't think it will ever recover.

 

The Tories will be riven with internal grudges and factions that will last for decades and splits like that don't heal. The only solution would be a lot of retirements and new blood.

 

Where does that leave Britain? We will be virtually ungovernable. Even if we stay there will be a massive fallout, Europe will tear itself apart eventually and it will be messy.

 

Stay or leave the expression "Ah well ......... " will be applied to every argument by both sides.

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