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Bosses, who were all doom and gloom following brexit, are now quite a bit perkier, as a company in the UK who used to import modular wall, roof and floor panels from the EU, are now in talks to buy them from us as it will now work out cheaper for them. :yes: Jobs a good un. :good:

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I will vote for anyone who will give even the slightest chance of staying in the EU. The cost of leaving is already starting to bite. Today I had four contracs with the farming community totaling thousands of pounds and a quarter of my yearly income canceled and another contract this already underway will have its EU funding stopped as soon as article 50 is triggered worth to me £30,000 over the next 7 years. With fuel prices set to rise and a massive hike in the cost of living in the pipeline the outlook is pretty grim.

I can understand your concern . Myself ,I am neither looking for a job or some where to live . There are millions of us in this country in the same position . I am prepared to pay a bit more for food and fuel at the pumps to regain the sovereignty of our country and to be able to govern our selves And to send back to their own country any body who breaks our laws . It may seem a bit selfish but I have had my fill of the EU .

 

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I will vote for anyone who will give even the slightest chance of staying in the EU. The cost of leaving is already starting to bite. Today I had four contracs with the farming community totaling thousands of pounds and a quarter of my yearly income canceled and another contract this already underway will have its EU funding stopped as soon as article 50 is triggered worth to me £30,000 over the next 7 years. With fuel prices set to rise and a massive hike in the cost of living in the pipeline the outlook is pretty grim.

So the truth finally comes out! All that rubbish you posted in support of "remain" and all the disparaging comments you made about the "brexit" side was not as you made out, because of what you believed was best for the good of the country.............but was best for your own personal situation!

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We are soon to have another general election, I hope . There are a lot of bums twitching among our ruling classes after the referendum. I voted to leave and will not vote for any candidate who was against us leaving the EU . Roll on the next general election ,it will be very entertaining. Carnt wait to see all the weeping and wailing when these arrogant lot lose their seats . Perhaps any new government will learn to listen and to serve the electorate ,and not ignore us and run rough shod over us .

 

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Given the **** Labour are in the tories ought to shoehorn Boris in, call a snap election then trigger article 50 with a decent majority.

 

Then appoint a safe pair of hands (May? Gove?) as PM.

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They'll get no deal from Brussels without MAJOR concessions, all to our cost, so it will be like Norway or worse...

 

Open borders & free movement for EU nationals is a given, EU trade related legislation including financial compliance (without which the City will lose its financial passport), but we'll be able to at least avoid full EU integration, avoid an EU army, avoid having to obey EU non-trade related laws and tax harmonisation and be able to form our own world trade deals outside of the EU. That's the positive scenario...

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They'll get no deal from Brussels without MAJOR concessions, all to our cost, so it will be like Norway or worse...

 

Open borders & free movement for EU nationals is a given, EU trade related legislation including financial compliance (without which the City will lose its financial passport), but we'll be able to at least avoid full EU integration, avoid an EU army, avoid having to obey EU non-trade related laws and tax harmonisation and be able to form our own world trade deals outside of the EU. That's the positive scenario...

Easy - no deal no German car or French wine imports without high tarrifs - tune will change rapidly.

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They'll get no deal from Brussels without MAJOR concessions, all to our cost, so it will be like Norway or worse...

 

Open borders & free movement for EU nationals is a given, EU trade related legislation including financial compliance (without which the City will lose its financial passport), but we'll be able to at least avoid full EU integration, avoid an EU army, avoid having to obey EU non-trade related laws and tax harmonisation and be able to form our own world trade deals outside of the EU. That's the positive scenario...

I don't agree, we are the goose that's been laying big golden eggs, they don't care two Figs about Britain but they do care about our money big time. They are not going to be able to carry on without it so the ball is in their court now.

 

If they had taken us more seriously when we said we weren't happy..............

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We are soon to have another general election, I hope . There are a lot of bums twitching among our ruling classes after the referendum. I voted to leave and will not vote for any candidate who was against us leaving the EU . Roll on the next general election ,it will be very entertaining. Carnt wait to see all the weeping and wailing when these arrogant lot lose their seats . Perhaps any new government will learn to listen and to serve the electorate ,and not ignore us and run rough shod over us .

 

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I also CAN'T wait

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I will vote for anyone who will give even the slightest chance of staying in the EU. The cost of leaving is already starting to bite. Today I had four contracs with the farming community totaling thousands of pounds and a quarter of my yearly income canceled and another contract this already underway will have its EU funding stopped as soon as article 50 is triggered worth to me £30,000 over the next 7 years. With fuel prices set to rise and a massive hike in the cost of living in the pipeline the outlook is pretty grim.

 

Hmmm :hmm:

 

We're still members of the EU even after article 50 is triggered. We'll still pay in to their coffers, and we'll still get all 'EU funding' in return.

 

It would be a minimum of 2 years from the start of negotiations under article 50 before we officially leave the EU...maybe you should have a word with your customers and set them right with the facts?

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The more I think about it and the more I speak to people I don't think the exit will actually happen. I predict lots and lots of behind the scenes discussions and a compromise offered where we get something around allowing free movement of labour but not necessarily free movement of people i.e. migrants in order to keep the masses happy. Then either a second referendum or a General Election.

 

But what do I know.

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if it comes to that then i simply wont bother,

by then they will have already proven the vote is pointless and democracy is dead if it isnt aimed in the direction they want.........i just wont bother and whatever the result i hope all concerned is happy :unhappy:

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I don`t believe there should be a GE. The country voted for a party that promised a referendum and that goverment delivered it. Now it is the responsibility of that same government to deal with the result. The fact that Cameron has resigned does not change anything. Major and Brown both took over without facing a GE and whichever candidate wins the Con. leadership election should do the same.

 

If there is a GE election then whomever wins the leadership race should invoke Article 50 before the GE takes place.

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Tell you what is troubling me here the leave side won the referendum, it was democratic, yet selfish iresponsible in the minoriry are nearly a week in still not acepting the outcome gracefully.

There is challenging talk of rew run and A GE and then a RE Run .. Not invoking article 50, not really going to leave. Its just not right and proper behaviour.

NOW VMY CONCERN IS CIVIL UNREST, if the majority are not being listened to democraticaly what next, there are some extreme opinions out there, at the moment it hope fully will be in a minority of extremists, but i am concerned, this posturing and inhane talk from the pro in side, coulkd just tip the balance and trigger some extreme reactions even rioting or even worse.

Up here i see no signs of any unrest, but in a thread on here today just this board, people are making accusations some showing some bad behaviour towards potentialy ethnic people here.

Naturaly i hope no civil unrest develops, but sorry if there ever was such a tragic outcome, it will be born out of democratc voters frustration at a society hell bent on own way at the expense of absolutly everything.

The British people wanted this referendum and they wanted to set the wheels in motion to leave the EU, which we as a nation never really went into fully not signing maesterict...Spelling>>.. And not taking up the euro we have always been the Rouge child of Europe.

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Easy - no deal no German car or French wine imports without high tarrifs - tune will change rapidly.

And what about the 57% of the cars made in the UK that go to Europe? Works both ways, that is why like it or not they WILL compromise to get trading arrangements. Its NOT going to be a simplistic walking away from everything we don't like about Europe and making agreements that just suit ourselves unfortunately.

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And what about the 57% of the cars made in the UK that go to Europe? Works both ways, that is why like it or not they WILL compromise on trading arrangements. Its NOT going to be a simplistic walking away from everything to do with Europe unfortunately.

Yout mean like Jaguar Landrover (German), Rolls Royce (German).............

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I will vote for anyone who will give even the slightest chance of staying in the EU. The cost of leaving is already starting to bite. Today I had four contracs with the farming community totaling thousands of pounds and a quarter of my yearly income canceled and another contract this already underway will have its EU funding stopped as soon as article 50 is triggered worth to me £30,000 over the next 7 years. With fuel prices set to rise and a massive hike in the cost of living in the pipeline the outlook is pretty grim.

 

I see no reason why the UK government would stop farm subsidies when we leave the EU. We had them before we joined and we will have them after we've left. Unnecessary EU twaddle costs me in the region of £10,000 a year, and I'm just a little old stock farm. In the medium to long term I see a brighter future for UK farming out of the EU and because of this I am continuing to invest in the future. As an example, I do not intend to cancel new machinery orders, further buildings or increases in stock numbers.

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Tell you what is troubling me here the leave side won the referendum, it was democratic, yet selfish iresponsible in the minoriry are nearly a week in still not acepting the outcome gracefully.

There is challenging talk of rew run and A GE and then a RE Run .. Not invoking article 50, not really going to leave. Its just not right and proper behaviour.

NOW VMY CONCERN IS CIVIL UNREST, if the majority are not being listened to democraticaly what next, there are some extreme opinions out there, at the moment it hope fully will be in a minority of extremists, but i am concerned, this posturing and inhane talk from the pro in side, coulkd just tip the balance and trigger some extreme reactions even rioting or even worse.

Up here i see no signs of any unrest, but in a thread on here today just this board, people are making accusations some showing some bad behaviour towards potentialy ethnic people here.

Naturaly i hope no civil unrest develops, but sorry if there ever was such a tragic outcome, it will be born out of democratc voters frustration at a society hell bent on own way at the expense of absolutly everything.

The British people wanted this referendum and they wanted to set the wheels in motion to leave the EU, which we as a nation never really went into fully not signing maesterict...Spelling>>.. And not taking up the euro we have always been the Rouge child of Europe.

 

Well certainly red faced!

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