Sturgeon rebuffed at Brussels today

[sako751sg]

 

I can fully understand your feelings having read up on the Highland Clearances but ..... Why is the Duke of Sutherlands statue above Dornoch?

 

Because as today money speaks.

Well worth a trip up to see it and the quarry that was used just a hundred metres or so away from it.

It kept being vandalised but they have put a metal facing round it at ground level to stop it as some eejits were pulling out blocks at the bottom.

Excellent walk up with great views from the top and a wee trip to Dunrobin castle is a must.

 

Edit to say,he was a **** of the highest order but times change.

Edited July 2, 2016 by sako751sg

[12gauge82]

Really appreciate the reply Scotslad, answered alot of questions I had and some I hadn't even thought of yet

[krugerandsmith]

 

Because as today money speaks.

Well worth a trip up to see it and the quarry that was used just a hundred metres or so away from it.

It kept being vandalised but they have put a metal facing round it at ground level to stop it as some eejits were pulling out blocks at the bottom.

Excellent walk up with great views from the top and a wee trip to Dunrobin castle is a must.

 

Edit to say,he was a **** of the highest order but times change.

 

Thank you, having said that I much prefer.... Glenfiddich at Tain

[guzzicat]

I thought that was Glenmorangie?

[Vince Green]

The highland clearances were terrible.

 

As with all these things though it wasn't as clear cut as it is being portrayed today. It all came down to the rise in the price of wool due to better spinning and weaving machinery and the fact that an acre of land could earn more under sheep. It took place over a hundred years or more.

 

It wasn't just the English landowners who cleared out the crofters. Scottish Lairds and even Clan Chiefs did the same.

It happened all over England too, there it was called enclosure but the effect was the same

 

I'm not condoning it, it was a cruel thing to do.

 

My concern is that today it is being spun by Scottish Nationalists to raise a tensions for their own ends.

 

Disgust at what happened may well be deserved but its history and it wasn't a Scots/English thing per se.

Edited July 2, 2016 by Vince Green

[krugerandsmith]

I thought that was Glenmorangie?

 

Absolutely correct .... Still ( Excuse the pun ) Worth a visit.

[BrowningB525]

So you no how the scots are thinking and voting pootang,give me the lottery numbers next .you must hv a crystal ball down there.I'm sure I no more scots than you.

You seem like a very angry person.

[Nial]

As an independent nation,(even though the idea that it ever could be independent is laughable), Scotland would never qualify for EU membership.

 

She is just looking to the EU, to fund their financial shortfall and I don't think Junkers is that stupid.

 

Scotland is a very beautiful but very empty country, apart from tourism and a bit of whiskey and timber it has no income worth talking about.

 

That's not quite true.

 

Tax raised per head is just slightly less than the UK average, we have a fairly broad economy. It's just that it's a big country and services are expensive to provide in the highlands

and islands. With the crash in the oil price we had a £15Bn black hole in our budget 2014/15, it'll be worse 2015/16 when the full effect of the oil is felt.

 

Other areas of the UK get more per head spent too so we can all expect a similar level of service, such as NI, Cornwall etc.

 

BTW you can tell Sturgeon is lying when her lips are moving.

[geordieh]

If I was Cameron I would be offering wee Jimmy and the Scottish people a one off referendum winner takes all,If they decide to stay with the Union devolution goes, hollyrood house goes,the Barnet formula goes and they are governed from Westminster.If they choose independence and want to try their luck with the EU they take their share of the debt with them.The EU would not let them use the pound sterling they would have to use the euro.Now if they really wanted independence give the vote to England too.

[shaun4860]

Spain will always vote against letting the Scots into the EU as it opens a whole can of worms regarding their own Basque people,

 

Does it have to be a unanimous vote by all member states before you are allowed to join? If so then it's a non starter

 

[walshie]

Spain and the other 26 member states. Seriously i can't see why any of them would want Scotland on it's own. They wouldn't be net contributors. And they can't half moan.

[ditchman]

Spain will always vote against letting the Scots into the EU as it opens a whole can of worms regarding their own Basque people,

 

Does it have to be a unanimous vote by all member states before you are allowed to join? If so then it's a non starter

 

 

 

didnt think of that..........wondered why spain was so anti

[oowee]

I once climbed into Kilchurn Castle (banks of Loch Awe) at night (unfortunately it was closed and I wanted to visit). My friend wee Jimmy Campbell (5'8") was too small to climb the walls so I gave him a lift up onto the battlements. Turns out that during the clearances the Campbell's were installed into the castle by the English. So I like to think that our foray into the castle and my lifting the wee Jimmy into place, was a simple reenactment of history.

[FalconFN]

The simple fact is most scots don't reguard themselves as british, they don't all want independence thou.

Most scots view westminster the same as the majority of english view brussels, even a fair % of the remain voters wouldn't consider thm selves as european or have any love for it, just easier having status quo or can see financial benefit etc

 

Mostly the exact same arguments can be wheeled out more local government planning spending to suit wot the country actually needs.

And at moment Westminster is really not that relevant to scotland anymore with the new powers at holyrood as so much stuff is devolved. At moment scots/NI/welsh are paying taxes to fund 3 different parliments with there own, westminster and EU, just more and more snout in the trough.

To be honest it sort of makes ense to vote for Snp MP's s there only policy is to stick up for scotland (althou very few votes will actually make any difference/relevance nowadays) whereas if they where lab/tory they would be voting along party lines nomatter would impact that had on scotland.

If u ad a local yorkshire/cornwall politicain that would stick up for his constuancy over all else is that not who u'd vote for

 

During the olympics not that any scots bother watching or would bother to cheer for a british athelte, u'd never see it on in a pub, i'd only ever watch a race if there was a scot in it.

 

Even if u take the fitba, why do u bother wether or not scotland fans are suporting a foriegn team?? I couldn't care less wether anyone else wants to support scotland, really none of my business. If it makes u feel better then great but no one really cares

Even at the rugby u go to a welsh or irish game (or even the french to a lesser degree) edinburgh's heaving, the early pubs are stowed out its great craic, go u for an england game, just white jerseys everywhere as the craic's not as good so no one bothers going out the same

 

 

The Snp are a very slick very PR orientated machine, been in power for 3 terms now, hospitals, schools roads, police etc are still rubish and have got worse yet them seem to be untouchable.

They go on about anti austerity yet have frozen council tax fo last 9 years so struggling local councils who fix potholes collect rubbish etc infact do most off the things that really matter are absolutely skint and cutting back big time

Even recently there has ben quite a few different scandals, fiddles and affairs etc but never really makes big news or damages their reputation whereas if it was a tory it would be all over the place

 

I can't stand 99% off wot the SNP do or stand for but u have to grudgingly admire wot they've done, they are very clever. Sturgeon is about the only politician to come out of this brexit with any dignity, if she wasleading a big renglish party they would not be in the mess they are now

 

If u look at the figures from that referndum 2 years ago apart from 16-18 yrs olds in every category up to 55 yrs old there was far more Yes voters, it was the over 55's and esp over 65's that kept the union. No only won by 400k votes, how many english do u think lives in scotlandand voted No?

 

I think the union is broke beyond repair now, u only have to look at some of the comments on here, i may be baised but if u replaced the word scot/jock with other nationalites/colours u'd be getting banned for inciting racial hatred.

There has always been some anti english feeling by a minority just he same as alawys been anti scots feelig by a minority, but seems to be getting far more anti scots feeling now esp on here.

U say we're all in it together and all equal, u wouldn't think so when u read some of the posts on here.

Good post

[Gordon R]

shaun4860 - any single member of the EU can veto another country voting. Scotland is a definite non-starter because of Spain - let alone economic reasons.

[TONY R]

I can perfectly understand why any nation wouldn't want to be ruled by another. Didn't England fight wars to that effect?

Well not really we used to just move in , sit down watch telly and make then bring us a beer, empty their apple orchard the freezer steal the bank accounts and proceed to run the family firm creaming off the profits and sending it all back to good old queen vicky.

Our men and women died colonialising these places, then do gooders decided to give them all back, not only did we lose revinue, but the countries themselves fell apart civil wars military cooes mass slaughtering pupet governments starvation desease and all round bad news folowed and still is ongoing in some countries, INDIA did a bit better they kept some red post boxes kept producing old austins and old enfields but never really thrived after we left.

Being under British rule was not all good i imagine, just the same as being under Roman rule was not ideal, but better than no rule at all and all the problems that can cause, show me one roaring sucsess story anywhere in the world that used to be pink thats doing better now than when it was a colony, even Australia which is doing well, might have grown faster under our umberella. NZ is doing ok but like all small birds in a bad winter they get hit, look at 911 it put NZ airlines into trouble and hit the ecconomy pretty hard for a wile, Not saying canada NZ or AUSIE would want back in the Empire, but others have not faired so well, thats the point.

England dont need scotland or wales to survive, but England would rather we were all together AS great Britain, but are we to believe the jocks have no lkove for us?

Well some dont thats clear, Phi;ip is one stewrgeon salmond the same and a fair old % by the sounds of it, so keep shunning an admirer eventualy they will give up on you, Scotland needs to get off its high horse even if nicola still wants to ride it and start taking this Great britain thing seriously again put this whole salmond fiasaco behind them and move on.

Because if this keeps up this constant threat of dis union between us, England and wales might just have a referendum to see if we still want SCOTALAND with US!.

And sorry but i think England would fare better than Scotland on their own any day of the week.

Ouicker these SNP jerks are out of office the better, . And guns air guns on a ticket? man they need ******* for that come on nothing to be gained here but pure bullying tacktics and the very seedlings of shooting. Disgusting.

[Penelope]

As well as the Catalans.

 

 

Spain will always vote against letting the Scots into the EU as it opens a whole can of worms regarding their own Basque people,

Does it have to be a unanimous vote by all member states before you are allowed to join? If so then it's a non starter

 

 

didnt think of that..........wondered why spain was so anti

 

[guzzicat]

So are you saying that when air gun licences come in in Scotland we will be fundamentaly safer than our English counterparts?

[rodp]

I have no love for the trolls on here Tony r that slate anything scottish . Scully has hit it on the head .I hv many English friends that love scotland and the people, that's why they live here my friend.any airgun can kill and why not hv it on a ticket to be safe.

Couldn't you see he was just winding you up ? All you had to do was remain silent, or even agree with him and he would have gone away . Don't think he was being malicious, just having a laugh

 

 

So are you saying that when air gun licences come in in Scotland we will be fundamentaly safer than our English counterparts?

 

According to miss fishy, and would she lie to you

[guzzicat]

Yes the price is likely to create more black guns ,it will not stop irresponsible people keeping them

[rodp]

So it was ok for you to have one but not kids nowadays OK, that seems fair

[KFC]

Perhaps Nicola could take a couple of minutes away from being a stateswoman to actually do some governing.

 

Sea lice trashing wild fish stocks.

 

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/environment/14486461.Anglers_take_sea_lice_concerns_to_Europe_in_effort_to_protect_salmon_and_sea_trout/?ref=rl&lp=3

Edited July 3, 2016 by KFC

[sako751sg]

Perhaps Nicola could take a couple of minutes away from being a stateswoman to actually do some governing.

 

Sea lice trashing wild fish stocks.

 

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/environment/14486461.Anglers_take_sea_lice_concerns_to_Europe_in_effort_to_protect_salmon_and_sea_trout/?ref=rl&lp=3

 

On that note,fishing has been great so far this season and of the minters we have had not a sea lice on any which is very strange as usually there are loads.

Nets are off this season and it seems to be making a big difference which is looking good for the future although very early days.

[scotslad]

Are u fisjing on the east coast thou Sako?

 

Think most of the west coast rivers are really struggling and have been for a while and they wil be the rivers more affected by the fish farming industry

My local river has been voluntry catch and release for years and something like 80% are returned which was working for a few years but now numbers still dropping.

 

Think there are some big issues at sea

[sako751sg]

Are u fisjing on the east coast thou Sako?

 

Think most of the west coast rivers are really struggling and have been for a while and they wil be the rivers more affected by the fish farming industry

My local river has been voluntry catch and release for years and something like 80% are returned which was working for a few years but now numbers still dropping.

 

Think there are some big issues at sea

 

Aye,east coast.

We have missed the worst for sure regarding lice with the amount of farms on the west coast but still strange as no lice at all on the ones we have taken which have been mint.

4 seasons ago was superb but the last two have been absolutely shocking to say the least will be in part due to the nets but the sheer numbers of dolphins and seals in our waters must be affecting numbers too.

We have been between 80-90% catch and release for a few years now but like you numbers were not improving so serious issues somewhere.

Funny thing is,we have a wee burn,and really mean wee,that runs into the sea around 6 miles from the mouth of the Deveron and that has exceptional runs of sea trout mostly mixed with a few grilse and salmon which you rarely blank at which is a bit baffling.