discobob Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Hi All I got a quote for some plumbing work (en- suite refit) and was a bit shocked by the price as it to me worked out at @£60 per hour for the work. I phoned and questioned him raising this with him for him to say it's for 2 men (him and his son) - now the job is Fit toilet - connecting to existing pipe work Fit vanity to existing pipes Fit radiator to existing pipes Fit shower valve to existing pipes Fit Shower cubicle Replace a TRV on another radiator (different mounting system - not an olive) Now the rom is that small it would be a very hard job to get two people into the room working at the same time although I might concede a second pair of hands may be useful for the cubicle fitting but I could have provided that. So - should I have to pay effectively double rate for one man to be idle for a day - as the job isn't being done any quicker and how can they think they can get away with it? This is a rhetorical question as I won't be appointing him for the work Cheers Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Get someone else and offer to do the labour,better still watch a bit of youtube and tackle it yourself.Last plumber i had in (British Gas) just for a service caused leak on an elbow joint.Then said cant get one till 3days after playing with his laptop.I slammed his laptop shut and told him to get out.Popped to B&Q 35p for an elbow 15minutes later job done.I would never get any tradesman in now unless recomended by a friend.Oh and the 'cash in hand and i will knock off the VAT but no invoice mob' Edited October 11, 2016 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Quotation is just that,dont except if its not right and move on to next. What was the quote,about £600 ish ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 how did you work it out to be £60 an hour ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) My 84 year old mum decided she wanted the carpet cleaned in the hall of her tiny retirement flat. I don't really know why because it was quite new. She phoned somebody from the free paper. I was there when he came because I was going to a funeral that afternoon although I didn't pay much attention. From ring the doorbell to gone he was there for no more than ten minutes and charged her £75. I was unaware he had finished otherwise I would have queried the bill. I am not exaggerating in any way ten minutes In a similar vein, I know an old lady round the corner who was charged £300 to have her driveway cleaned by a bloke from (surprise surprise) the same free paper. He was only there about an hour. It was a rubbish job and my son (then 18) went round with my pressure washer and tidied up all the bits he missed for her. Somebody else I found out today is being charged £30 by a window cleaner to clean the windows on a small bog standard 1930s bungalow. I will be onto that in the week. I would have thought a tenner was fair. I could go on and on, there are so many rip off merchants out there at the moment Edited October 11, 2016 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted October 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Quotation is just that,dont except if its not right and move on to next. What was the quote,about £600 ish ! A little bit more but close enough - no parts either as all supplied where needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted October 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Get someone else and offer to do the labour,better still watch a bit of youtube and tackle it yourself.Last plumber i had in (British Gas) just for a service caused leak on an elbow joint.Then said cant get one till 3days after playing with his laptop.I slammed his laptop shut and told him to get out.Popped to B&Q 35p for an elbow 15minutes later job done.I would never get any tradesman in now unless recomended by a friend.Oh and the 'cash in hand and i will knock off the VAT but no invoice mob' I have done all the "hidden" plumbing already - just wanted the finish bits done by a pro but it is looking more that way that I will be doing it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted October 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 how did you work it out to be £60 an hour ? Intelligent estimating how long each one should take a skilled practitioner- and then rounded up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 You where lucky to even get one to turn up, it would seem that most do not bother after contacting them via there "website". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Get someone else and offer to do the labour,better still watch a bit of youtube and tackle it yourself.Last plumber i had in (British Gas) just for a service caused leak on an elbow joint. Was that on water or gas? Also, was it a compression or solder fitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Its a quote, his interpretation of the value of the works bearing in mind his particular circumstances. Ring the next contractor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 It's a price, If you don't like it get another quote. Not that difficult really and not worth you analysing how he might have arrived at the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del T Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 The job will be quicker with two doing it. One can be putting all the bits of the toilet together whilst the other is altering pipework. One can be draining all the heating off whilst one is measuring position of new rad installing new tails,getting flooring up etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) hello, from your list it is just replacements except the cubicle and radiator valve, it should not be that hard to do it yourself, 2 things make sure your stop taps out side and in are working, use a new rubber seal for toilet and if tight a waterproof grease and do not over tighten the screws holding toilet to floor, buy the right tools £20, and tin of plumbers mate not ptfe tape, help guides available in wicks, it took a long time to find a realy good gas engineer to fit my sons new boiler after many stupid quotes to £4,250 including £60 an hour and for 4 days, peter did the job in 2 days, lovely pipe work and clean/tidy, 3 year warranty boiler as we did not use the boiler company recommendation engineer or it would be 10 year as quote above, peter £2,000 plus vat Edited October 12, 2016 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 The job will be quicker with two doing it. One can be putting all the bits of the toilet together whilst the other is altering pipework. One can be draining all the heating off whilst one is measuring position of new rad installing new tails,getting flooring up etc etc. My thoughts exactly. As for all the just have a go yourself there are lots of water regs that need to be adhered to. Plumbers mate has no place on hot or cold water in place of ptfe tape as its a sanitary putty for wastes. Draining heating the heating and refilling after changing a radiator and re balancing the system can be at times a pain in the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harris2006 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 And someone suggesting to labour for them, if that was me the price would go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 The job will be quicker with two doing it. One can be putting all the bits of the toilet together whilst the other is altering pipework. One can be draining all the heating off whilst one is measuring position of new rad installing new tails,getting flooring up etc etc. if you can get the young man of his mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 It's his quotation and his decision what he wishes to charge and how many people to use, be it 2 or 5 people. As others have said, accept the price or chose another, that's the whole purpose of obtaining one. Can't see the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 And someone suggesting to labour for them, if that was me the price would go up.Nail hit firmly on the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 My thoughts exactly. As for all the just have a go yourself there are lots of water regs that need to be adhered to. Plumbers mate has no place on hot or cold water in place of ptfe tape as its a sanitary putty for wastes. Draining heating the heating and refilling after changing a radiator and re balancing the system can be at times a pain in the rear. Not in his quote it isn't quicker - no rebalancing either. He just wanted me to sub his son for a day and a half - "pass us the screwdriver son" as due to limitations in space as said earlier I do concur that 2 men SHOULD be a reduction in time and reduction in cost As I said earlier I posed as rhetorical question if you can get the young man of his mobile phone. :) :thumbs up: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del T Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 The son is maybe serving his apprenticeship? How is he going to learn the trade without experience in the real world. If the guy was charging £60 per hour then just dropped his lad off to do the work then fair enough that's not right. And I have seen it done. How do you know how much the lad is getting though, the dad might be on £55 an hour and only gives the lad a fiver?. Doesn't sound so bad then does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 the joys of the salaried people being on 50 grand a year moaning about the self employed making a living and working 14+ hours a day . you have had a quote except it or go else where , that's the idea of having the quote surely Talk about the moaning of life lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 your going to have to get int 21st century mate One to do the working one to video and record it for litigation protection The days of one man turning up and doing a job are long gone 🤔 Hope you get the quote you want All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 the joys of the salaried people being on 50 grand a year moaning about the self employed making a living and working 14+ hours a day . you have had a quote except it or go else where , that's the idea of having the quote surely Talk about the moaning of life lol Did you give the quote OP. Take the quote or leave it, it's your choice. Out of curiosity have you had others and how did they compare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Did you give the quote OP. Take the quote or leave it, it's your choice. Out of curiosity have you had others and how did they compare? if i did its just doubled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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