steve_b_wales Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 If you delete messages on your phone, is there any way that they can be retrieved by your service provider? A member of staff in work with me is having sexually explicit messages sent to her by one of her bosses, but she deleted them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Pm' you bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 There is nothing you can send or recieve on a phone that cannot be retrieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 hello, that person wants sacking and your friend to claim for sexual harassment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted September 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 hello, that person wants sacking and your friend to claim for sexual harassment Too true. She's asked me for advice first. His wife also works in the same office as the both of them. Personally, I would go onto him in front of his wife, but she's unsure what to do yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 I could well imagine that such retrieval would require some form of formal approach - the police? - and also how can you be sure that your friend is the only one suffering from this and that she/they are not more seriously affected by it. No contest for my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Too true. She's asked me for advice first. His wife also works in the same office as the both of them. Personally, I would go onto him in front of his wife, but she's unsure what to do yet. hello steve, oh that is a very tricky situation and must stress your colleague out big time, i would retrieve a txt or 2 make sure it comes from his phone, somehow print out or keep a record, does he have to have her number ? if not get a new number and do not give him or his wife, if that fails and it continues she might not have any choice but to report, what a heathen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Um, seems strange that a bloke whose wife works in same office is sending "unsolicited" sexual texts to a lady... !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB1 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Wondershare-Fone software can be downloaded for deleted message retrieval for most phones……... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted September 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Um, seems strange that a bloke whose wife works in same office is sending "unsolicited" sexual texts to a lady... !!!! Nothing 'strange' about it at all. Perverted, yes. She had a load of messages sent to her last weekend. Makes no difference if his wife also works in the office. (a very large HR office) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Nothing 'strange' about it at all. Perverted, yes. She had a load of messages sent to her last weekend. Makes no difference if his wife also works in the office. (a very large HR office) Unfortunately you are right there steve, wont stop him doing it. As red dot says it is all retrievable. Although deleting it wasnt necessarily the best idea. She has in effect deleted evidence of this happening. As I see it, there are two ways to play this. 1 - she tells him to back off, to his face and on text (written proof) him and say she has the messages and will take it further(involve police) for sexual harassment if it does not stop. 2- dont give him chance to stop and go to phone provider and police. It will not be fun, and she will need to be strong willed. But this kind of carp should not happen to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazb1967 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Met a couple on holiday this year and his job was to do exactly what your asking, retrieve data from phones and computers, forensic something or other, he was telling me that everything can retrieved unless you totally destoy the phone or hard drive on pc. It deffo wants reporting, wouldnt be surprised if its happening to more than one person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted September 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 She needs to get the messages back first, then can decided how to approach it. Personally, I would confront him while his wife is nearby, before taking it further to higher management/police etc. She's not a strong willed person. She confided in me because we go back to our childhood days. I offered to approach him myself, but she won't allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 My friend once defended 5 men wrongly accused of abusing a young female child and the mens phone and internet history was retrieved even though the hardware was old and discarded. A fingerprint trace was got from ISP & phone providers. Turns out her mother had got her to lie to get back at her ex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Hmm - dodgy ground here I think that could potentially unfold in many ways. Rather than just a stand alone message that could be in or out of context, you might be best to get all recent messages that were sent and received so that previous proof of anything that may - or may not - have opened a door to the offending message might be prudent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Hmm - dodgy ground here I think that could potentially unfold in many ways. Rather than just a stand alone message that could be in or out of context, you might be best to get all recent messages that were sent and received so that previous proof of anything that may - or may not - have opened a door to the offending message might be prudent. Spot on. All correspondence in the conversation would need to be shown to prove it was all one way traffic imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Don't know if a 'Subject Access Request' would cover text data.A call to the airtime provide would be an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted September 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Hmm - dodgy ground here I think that could potentially unfold in many ways. Rather than just a stand alone message that could be in or out of context, you might be best to get all recent messages that were sent and received so that previous proof of anything that may - or may not - have opened a door to the offending message might be prudent. She had the text messages all in one night (last Saturday) and nothing before. She's wondering if he was drunk. (no excuse of course) She is currently on sick leave after having an operation, and hasn't been in work for the past 3 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Or He could have sent them to the wrong number/person If it happened once on one night Don't want to hang the bloke until both sides of the story are told Anyone here ever sent a text to the wrong person?? Just a thought Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Or He could have sent them to the wrong number/person If it happened once on one night Don't want to hang the bloke until both sides of the story are told Anyone here ever sent a text to the wrong person?? Just a thought Of Certainly not a sexually explicit one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Or He could have sent them to the wrong number/person If it happened once on one night Don't want to hang the bloke until both sides of the story are told Anyone here ever sent a text to the wrong person?? Just a thought Of This. She needs to quietly ask him if the txts were meant for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Well, I had a text once and in a panic. A call from my mate. "Delete the text message." Now! Pure class! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Or He could have sent them to the wrong number/person If it happened once on one night Don't want to hang the bloke until both sides of the story are told Anyone here ever sent a text to the wrong person?? Just a thought Of Yup, sent and received. Panic for the first one and almost wet myself for the other. If sent in error, fair enough, but if intentional, not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Or He could have sent them to the wrong number/person If it happened once on one night Don't want to hang the bloke until both sides of the story are told Anyone here ever sent a text to the wrong person?? Just a thought Of This is easy done. I have to be very very careful with my texts to the wife as alphabetically my daughter is next in line. I haven't messed up yet but it would be very very embarrassing if I did. Still think its weird that the bloke did this.. Edited September 4, 2017 by ips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 All phone companies have a fraud and security department wgi deal with this stuff. Speak to them and they will advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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