Gordon R Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 four-wheel-drive, on 18 Sept 2017 - 3:19 PM, said: Is this the one where the woman was crossing the road with her head down looking at her I-phone in that case the guy was in the wrong but what sort of fool crosses the road looking a there phone screen bring back the green cross man and teach people that you stand still to look at a phone not wander about and expecting everyone elc to get out of your way. I agree.sad as it is. He lied - she did not do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 He lied - she did not do it. Some people like to blame the victim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 the vile little scrote should be doing 5 years , he deserves to be horse whipped for his behaviour and attitude . + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Some people like to blame the victim. Very true - which is truly sad. Edited September 18, 2017 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 with a bit of luck he will be reemed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Does this mean I don't need car, motor cycle, travel insurance etc etc.....................Not to worry officer I've got house hold insurance I'm sure that will cover me for anything !!! Not at all, but worth finding out if your a victim of a cycle incident where your car, property is damaged! As it could help pay for the damages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Not at all, but worth finding out if your a victim of a cycle incident where your car, property is damaged! As it could help pay for the damages! Is that yourself that has to claim off your house ins, or claim off the cyclists ins.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Is that yourself that has to claim off your house ins, or claim off the cyclists ins.? From what i can gather you can claim from the cyclists home insurance "if they are covered" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Ah the PW court sits yet again. Yes the person concerned was in the wrong, illegal bike, no compassion for the outcome of the consequences and another who believes he has done no wrong. But how many on here have made a mistake in their lifetime and not admitted to it/been caught, l'm sure there are a few, even those who are condemning the convicted to an even worse future while incasterated at an HMP/YOI establishment, because while he is there he will gain a wealth of information and an even worse attitude as too what is right or wrong and will return to society a lot worse than when he went in. Just remember we all have a choice in what we do, how it can effect others we won't ever know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Ah the PW court sits yet again. Yes the person concerned was in the wrong, illegal bike, no compassion for the outcome of the consequences and another who believes he has done no wrong. But how many on here have made a mistake in their lifetime and not admitted to it/been caught, l'm sure there are a few, even those who are condemning the convicted to an even worse future while incasterated at an HMP/YOI establishment, because while he is there he will gain a wealth of information and an even worse attitude as too what is right or wrong and will return to society a lot worse than when he went in. Just remember we all have a choice in what we do, how it can effect others we won't ever know. Most if not all of us that have made a mistake and not admitted to it haven't taken a life then refused to take responsibility for it and then lied to get out of it..... Deserves everything he got and should have been more imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Most if not all of us that have made a mistake and not admitted to it haven't taken a life then refused to take responsibility for it and then lied to get out of it..... Deserves everything he got and should have been more imo 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Ah the PW court sits yet again. Yes the person concerned was in the wrong, illegal bike, no compassion for the outcome of the consequences and another who believes he has done no wrong. But how many on here have made a mistake in their lifetime and not admitted to it/been caught, l'm sure there are a few, even those who are condemning the convicted to an even worse future while incasterated at an HMP/YOI establishment, because while he is there he will gain a wealth of information and an even worse attitude as too what is right or wrong and will return to society a lot worse than when he went in. Just remember we all have a choice in what we do, how it can effect others we won't ever know. Yes we have all made mistakes, but i bet if any of us were involved in a similar incident most would be devastated at what had happened and would not be online blaming the victim. He has showed no remorse or taken any responsibility for his actions, he deserves everything he gets. Hours after the crash, Alliston commented on a report about the crash on the Evening Standard website to say 'this was not my fault.' He also wrote on a cycling forum: 'I won't say she deserved it, it was her fault. Yes it was her fault, but no she did not deserve it. Hopefully it is a lesson to be learned on her behalf.' The court heard the day after, Alliston continued to post online about the collision, and answered questions about his bike's condition, saying it had 'come out alright-ish'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Most if not all of us that have made a mistake and not admitted to it haven't taken a life then refused to take responsibility for it and then lied to get out of it..... Deserves everything he got and should have been more imo I cannot argue with a word. There ought to be an offence of stupidity or arrogance. When people do something which everyone but them believes is stupid or are arrogant enough to deny any culpability, they should get extra time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 An early guilty plea and showing some remorse and he wouldn't have served a day (seriously). As much as anything it shows he's both unpleasant and obnoxious but stupid to boot and he's going to get what (little alas) is now coming to him. He killed someone and there's a family out there missing a mum / sister / niece etc. so a little porridge can't come as too much of a surprise to him. He'll be out in half time if he keeps his nose clean; so that's 9 months for a life. I don't think he's getting short changed in that equation.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Rubbish. No, I can assure you, it's very true; almost all the people in this village are horsey types. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 The local horsey lot round our way are more rabid and militant than the cyclists; they will accept no criticism of themselves or anything "horse". Indeed, most of the people (women) I know who are into horses fall into the totally nuts obsessed everything spins round horses loony category and I have no idea how anyone manages to stay married to one. When it comes to horses, I'm with the French. It's a control thing mungler. These women like to control . I hav friend who was a very successful steeple chase jockey and he hated the women who where involved with the sport . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'm unsure on bike insurance. I can see both sides . I use my bike a few times a year when I ride with my kids across the park and if I had to insure all our bikes I wouldn't bother. On the other hand I've seen lads riding 30-50mph on the roads and it's similar to motorcycle speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deker Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'm unsure on bike insurance. I can see both sides . I use my bike a few times a year when I ride with my kids across the park and if I had to insure all our bikes I wouldn't bother. On the other hand I've seen lads riding 30-50mph on the roads and it's similar to motorcycle speeds. Join British Cycling, you get insurance for bikes as part of the membership. I agree it should be mandatory for all bike users, no matter where you use your bike there is always a risk you could hurt someone or damage something, I mainly do mountain biking and when the sun is out there are always people walking up designated cycle routes (despite warnings) where bikes will be coming down at 25mph+ minimum, it's only a matter of time before more accidents start hitting the headlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me matt Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Ah the PW court sits yet again. Yes the person concerned was in the wrong, illegal bike, no compassion for the outcome of the consequences and another who believes he has done no wrong. But how many on here have made a mistake in their lifetime and not admitted to it/been caught, l'm sure there are a few, even those who are condemning the convicted to an even worse future while incasterated at an HMP/YOI establishment, because while he is there he will gain a wealth of information and an even worse attitude as too what is right or wrong and will return to society a lot worse than when he went in. Just remember we all have a choice in what we do, how it can effect others we won't ever know. So lets not send anyone to prison because it will make them worse than they already are? Are you bonkers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I don't understand how he didn't get manslaughter. He was reckless and knowingly so. He must have had a great Brief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I don't understand how he didn't get manslaughter. He was reckless and knowingly so. He must have had a great Brief. Indeed, wonder who paid for his legal representation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 So lets not send anyone to prison because it will make them worse than they already are? Are you bonkers? MM! read it again, what l have said is that he has the wrong attitude and it will only get worse while he is inside because of those around him. I have worked in the environment and I have seen the outcome of peer pressure on quite a lot that have been there for a lot less than what this individual has been sentenced for. Yes he should be locked away and the judge most likely gave the only sentence that was available to them at the time, even they have guidelines they have to follow until a law is changed. Bonkers, not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeonshooter22 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 And horses? Years ago a friend of mine was stopped on the A38 near Highbridge, a horse ridden by a 12 year old girl was acting up in the road and everyone had stopped because of it. The horse jumped on Garys car and crushed in the windscreen and roof, he suffered quite severe injuries and was off work for months, he was self employed, lost loads of work and couldn't pay his mortgage so his house was reposessed. He couldn't get a penny from the horse owner or the girl that was riding it. I think anyone that uses the roads in any way, shape or form should have at least 3rd party cover. I agree. I own 2 horses myself and both have 3rd party cover, you can't do anything without it, all horse shows etc you need to have it. She should of had some form of cover, i'm sure he could of taken her to court if he gave her enough room and the horse still came into contact with the car. I'm a rider, but i like to think a courteous one, always trot out the way and say thank you etc. I had a accident in January (first road accident in over 10 years of riding) lady in brand new 4x4 who thinks shes gods gift (who also admitted to hating horses/countryside yet lives in the village) tried to fit past me and my biggest horse on the narrowest part of the lane then stopped as she couldn't fit past it was so narrow. Horses bum knocked her car and she got out and instantly said, i knew it was to close. My horse caused her mirror to flip out but gave her my details. Shes trying to take me to court for the repair of under £200.. luckily my side are fighting it but not sure how it will go down as no witnesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me matt Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 MM! read it again, what l have said is that he has the wrong attitude and it will only get worse while he is inside because of those around him. I have worked in the environment and I have seen the outcome of peer pressure on quite a lot that have been there for a lot less than what this individual has been sentenced for. Yes he should be locked away and the judge most likely gave the only sentence that was available to them at the time, even they have guidelines they have to follow until a law is changed. Bonkers, not at all. This post is much less sympathetic to the offender- not how your previous post came across I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) I will ask the question. I have not heard of this cover at BASC but I will come back with an answer. Thats a terrible story but one that i've heard similar of befor, yes horse'es need insurance. Terry does bask do a cover for this? BASC do not have Insurance cover for Horses. Edited September 19, 2017 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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