PPP Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Visited the gunshop at the weekend to pick up a few things and was told by the owner that the local police were cracking down on unfilled slots on licences and low use of ammunition with a view to withdrawing the calibre. I can understand that this may well be the case at renewal but mid-term seems a bit off. Has anyone experienced this mid term? Edited July 5, 2018 by PPP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spot on Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 are they being a bit ****y?? could understand it if you were over your quota ..what about the homeloaders you can buy everything apart from primers over the counter ..would they be counting you primers to verify the amount you have/use ..if true seems a bit dracoanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 sales gimmick perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, scutt said: sales gimmick perhaps. My initial thoughts.. might stop using that shop, plenty of choice here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Pub talk. The FEOs don’t have time for mid assessments unless something is brought to their attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 What is low use of ammunition I wonder? On the basis, to have an FAC granted, you have to show "Good reason", if the slot isn't filled, I can understand losing it. But I'm not aware that a FAC holder has to use "X" rounds per annum, or lose the licence. Equally, is there a minimum amount of foxes pa to justify having a centre fire or likewise rabbits with a 22lr? What about FAC air? And then there are the periods when rabbits or foxes aren't in abundance, or more time is given to crop protection with the shotgun for a few months. Am I expected to surrender my 22lr as the rabbit numbers are down on my perms due to a variety of reasons. Then re apply next year when they are up again? I think there is a bit of manipulation of the truth going on. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Thanks guys, its was clearly just a sales tactic, ah well, helps decide which gunshots to use Edited July 5, 2018 by PPP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIDES EDGE Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 No it is not a sales gimmick they are clamping down on low use and un filled slots but at renewal , as others have said what do you term as low use I brought 200 rounds of .243 2 years ago just before renewal they could well last me till my next renewal its not for the want of trying I am out with it 2 to 3 times a week but without the need for re zeroeing you don't pull the trigger that often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 At renewal being the key point, shop tried to tell me it’s mid term... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 hours ago, PPP said: My initial thoughts.. might stop using that shop, plenty of choice here WHERE ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, oldypigeonpopper said: WHERE ???? Essex/Suffolk loads of gunshops here, near half are good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, PPP said: Essex/Suffolk loads of gunshops here, near half are good thanks there are 4 within 20 miles of south Oxon not including just cartridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 The farmer where i life lost is 22lr through not buying enough ammo but kept other rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, snow white said: The farmer where i life lost is 22lr through not buying enough ammo but kept other rifle. At renewal or mid term? 28 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: thanks there are 4 within 20 miles of south Oxon not including just cartridges Google shows 14 within 20 miles of home, plus I know of two others.... only now use two though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 29 minutes ago, PPP said: At renewal or mid term? Google shows 14 within 20 miles of home, plus I know of two others.... only now use two though.. Who do you use if you don't mind me asking? I'm Essex/Suffolk border Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 At renewal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I'm pretty sure if you had a chicken perm for example, and you popped two foxes per year, the farmer would argue good reason on the shooters behalf. Similarly, 20 rabbits a year keeping them off the crops would be good reason. Some on here get through thousands of rounds of .22. I'm sure others, as Tides edge has pointed out, sometimes you don't get through a huge amount per year even if you're out 2/3 times a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, snow white said: At renewal I can kind of understand that, shop was suggesting it can happen at any point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Farmboy91 said: Who do you use if you don't mind me asking? I'm Essex/Suffolk border The only two i know that might be near to you are Robert Tilney of Beccles or Richardson of Halesworth . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 You could buy 20 rounds of centre fire ammo and take 4 large deer per year for 5 years. thats an incredibly low ammo use but mort than enough good reason. Suppose it depends how willing someone is to roll over ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 6 hours ago, marsh man said: The only two i know that might be near to you are Robert Tilney of Beccles or Richardson of Halesworth . Nah there's a few, mallard barn in Wattisham, Radcliffes in Colchester EAG in Ipswich are my closest. Mallard is the only one I use though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 I was told they are clamping down on FAC holders who are using a farm to get there FAC but when plod phones up and ask when was the last time the holder shot there and the farmer says he hasn't for ages they revoking there FAC lack of use dont need it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 I’ve just had a renewal and I’ve had to lower my limits on my 243 to 200 to be able to have a s1 12g and 17 hornet. He also said I need to aquire within 2-3 years else I’ll loose them . Things are changing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Does any of this come from HO guidelines or is it the police's very broad interpretation of something obscure anyway? Who decides what level of usage makes up good reason? could be a shooter with a charlie calibre uses it occasionally at lambing time and only offs 2 foxes. In my eyes and I would think those of others especially Mr Farmer this is 'good reason' I suppose if a shooter wanted to be extravagant he/she could zero their rifle/s x times a week and use an extraordinary amount of ammo. Would the FEO then question high usage. Heads I win tails you lose.??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: You could buy 20 rounds of centre fire ammo and take 4 large deer per year for 5 years. thats an incredibly low ammo use but mort than enough good reason. Suppose it depends how willing someone is to roll over ... Got to agree with this. How can they determine if you should or shouldn't have a calibre purely on ammo used. Ive spoken with my fao and they say about showing experience and shots fired to open a ticket, my reply to that is if I go out for a deer, I'm hoping to take one shot, not a box of 20... If I go out on fox, I may not even see one... So how can shots fired be used as a you cant have it anymore... Sounds dodgy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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