AdamSouthEast Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 I went in to Moles to see if they had any decently priced 32g 5s for the upcoming pheasant season (like to be prepared early ) and ended up coming away with a slab of Gamebore supergame high bird. When I got home I decided to download the Justcartridge price list (below). After filtering and sorting by velocity, I see that the slab I've bought is the slowest available ... according to JC anyway - the difference in speed between that and the fastest is only about 10% so hardly night and day. But got me thinking, what's everyone shooting this season? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Proper cartridges Stone Dead 5s Fibre and Lyalvale Supreme Game 5s Fibre. makes no difference to my shooting really as long as the gun goes bang and something comes out of the end, much like sex really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonm Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 55 minutes ago, Dougy said: Proper cartridges Stone Dead 5s Fibre and Lyalvale Supreme Game 5s Fibre. makes no difference to my shooting really as long as the gun goes bang and something comes out of the end, much like sex really. Much like sex, the bird might see it differently ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Super Game High Bird. Not sure what's going on this year, but if I do carry on I'll also use these. Adding on (what is a very generous) 10% velocity gives both less than 20 ft/sec and less than 0.1 ft lb of energy increase at 55 yards which as you say is neither here nor there. However, even with fibre, if (appreciate it's a biggy) these or the 30g pattern anywhere close to the 28g and with a correspondingly low recoil as those do in my guns, then theres absolutely nothing not to like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 It's surely all about how a particular cartridge patterns in your gun, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSouthEast Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 39 minutes ago, Retsdon said: It's surely all about how a particular cartridge patterns in your gun, no? For sure! But who's got time/means to pattern test their gun with lots of cartridges... I'm sure plenty of people actually, but not me ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Hull High Pheasant Extreme 1 1/8 oz 5 and RC Red Shot 1 1/8 oz 5 Fibre. The RC Red Shot are an amazing cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rabbit Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, AYA117 said: Hull High Pheasant Extreme 1 1/8 oz 5 and RC Red Shot 1 1/8 oz 5 Fibre. The RC Red Shot are an amazing cartridge. Amazing as in tight patterns at range or just a good quality even spread? I've been looking to try them but a guest hasn't turned up using any yet for me to cadge some! WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 They seem to be very tight patterning at long range, the RC Hyperfast 1 1/4 oz works the same. They perform like a plastic wad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rabbit Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, AYA117 said: They seem to be very tight patterning at long range, the RC Hyperfast 1 1/4 oz works the same. They perform like a plastic wad. I might try the 30gm 6's when I get the chance. My days vary from very high stuff to local farm shoot type birds so its hard to find a do it all load. Superniks will no doubt contain very hard shot. Incidentally, The pellet count in a 30/6 hpf is the same as a 30/6 Professional Game which would suggest the shot is no harder in them. Just the velocity has been ramped up. Its surprising what you can cleanly kill with the Professional Game. WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 7/8 no 7 in hull high pheasant if you can still get them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Game shooters hahahaha , every year same old **** . 98% of you couldn’t hit a barn door if you were stood in front of it ! I love to hear the story’s about how you had a fantastic day , 12 guns finished off with 86 for 798 shots . ... ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, stevo said: Game shooters hahahaha , every year same old **** . 98% of you couldn’t hit a barn door if you were stood in front of it ! I love to hear the story’s about how you had a fantastic day , 12 guns finished off with 86 for 798 shots . ... ?????? Stevo, I have every excuse because I’m a bit thick, but I can never work out whether you are a master of irony or just conceited. Perhaps you could elucidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Jdog, it’s pure fishing mate , there is always some will take the bait . ( there was a smiley face ) Me and you need a day out at some point and you see for yourself . To be fare though I’m stil waiting to meet a top game shot in real life . I’ve read all the legends . And shot with and against a few of them and there not much to write home about . Its the old wildflowers that will teach us mortals a thing or to let me tell you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, JDog said: Stevo, I have every excuse because I’m a bit thick, but I can never work out whether you are a master of irony or just conceited. Perhaps you could elucidate. No hes just bored . 5 minutes ago, stevo said: Its the old wildflowers that will teach us mortals a thing or to let me tell you . True BUD! Edited July 11, 2018 by lancer425 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, stevo said: Game shooters hahahaha , every year same old **** . 98% of you couldn’t hit a barn door if you were stood in front of it ! I love to hear the story’s about how you had a fantastic day , 12 guns finished off with 86 for 798 shots . ... ?????? Hmm 9 and a bit to1 do shoots sell days that small for a team of 12 Guns that would work out at 7 birds each at £250 a gun Are you suttley after a free day on the pheasants ????? all the best of for the op eley lmpax paper cased 6 and rc paper white 5 later in the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 In all my old days game shooting , I learnt more about shooting Tall birds from old foulers than any game shooter could ever teach me . These old boys have a skill set most of us can only dream about . And my advice to any aspiring game shooter is find yourself an old or experienced wild fouler . These lads will tell you everything you will ever need to know about tall birds , what a game shooter call tall , they call a normal day . You have to remember these boys are there to get results, there upto their waist in cold mud and water for hrs on end sometimes, they also eat what there shooting ( most of the time ) so there not interested in missing . And the ones I have had the privilege of annoying for a few hours have little time for excuses, ifs or buts ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 RC Professional Game in various weights, and a heavier RC for January pheasant. I think it's Prestige. Mostly because I overbought last season but also because RCs aren't thumpy. I like to take an old PW hand out with me as a loader. Loader's code for "coach", right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, grahamch said: 7/8 no 7 in hull high pheasant if you can still get them Yep, close enough to 7/8 - all you need is a 16 bore to put them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Gamebore Dark Storm 30g no6, Gamebore Black Gold 35g no5 for late high days, Gamebore Bismuth for non tox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Either Black Gold 32g 5’s or Clear Pigeon 30g 6’s ... don’t tell the pheasants they might be shot with a pigeon cartridge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said: Either Black Gold 32g 5’s or Clear Pigeon 30g 6’s ... don’t tell the pheasants they might be shot with a pigeon cartridge... It’ll never work, pheasant cartridges don’t kill pigeons or rabbits either, you need specific cartridges and chokes, maybe even a different gun, glasses, headphones etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Hellfire 32g 5s in the main. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 hours ago, stevo said: Game shooters hahahaha , every year same old **** . 98% of you couldn’t hit a barn door if you were stood in front of it ! I love to hear the story’s about how you had a fantastic day , 12 guns finished off with 86 for 798 shots . ... ?????? I would love to have enough money to shoot game regularly. Sadly I have to watch below average shots missing average pheasants left, right and centre when I am beating. Worse, the picking up team have a job trying to find the wounded. I honestly can't believe how badly the guns perform at times. I would love to buy a day for some mates to see how they perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 21g hull comp x cos if you get them in the head they do the job. None of this 32gram of big shot just shoot better. You don’t get tired from recoil either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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