Theresa May's speech today

[Vince Green]

A good speech, starting to take the fight back to them at last. I noticed that during the speech the FTSE went up nearly 1.5% which means the city liked it a lot

[Westward]

She's talked herself into a corner so all she can do is hope the other guy blinks first. Should have done it 2 years ago.

[Rewulf]

4 minutes ago, Westward said:

She's talked herself into a corner so all she can do is hope the other guy blinks first. Should have done it 2 years ago.

It was always going to be like this IMHO.
We just had to go through the motions.

[armsid]

about time we should now be setting up other markets to trade with commonwealth etc, so that they know we mean business see how audi vw  respond when they can.t sell their cars

[Westward]

3 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

It was always going to be like this IMHO.
We just had to go through the motions.

Yep.

[krugerandsmith]

2 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

It was always going to be like this IMHO.
We just had to go through the motions.

Don't know which motions you mean but the motions we have all been going through stink to high Heaven.😂

[Rewulf]

1 minute ago, krugerandsmith said:

Don't know which motions you mean but the motions we have all been going through stink to high Heaven.😂

Those were the motions I had in mind 

[AVB]

48 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

A good speech, starting to take the fight back to them at last. I noticed that during the speech the FTSE went up nearly 1.5% which means the city liked it a lot

No the FTSE is rising because sterling is falling as there is an increased chance of a hard Brexit. As the majority of FTSE constituent companies have large overseas earnings weak sterling means increased revenue (in GBP) 

[12gauge82]

1 hour ago, armsid said:

about time we should now be setting up other markets to trade with commonwealth etc, so that they know we mean business see how audi vw  respond when they can.t sell their cars

We're not allowed to do that yet as we're still bound by being a member of the EU, which is why they're so smug at the moment, although if May actually grows a pair, tells them to stuff it and she delivers a hard brexit (which is far closer to the brexit voted for than chequers ever would be) the EU won't be laughing then, they'll realise we'll do far better without them and junker and pals can go down with their sinking EU ship!

[rob-d]

45 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

We're not allowed to do that yet as we're still bound by being a member of the EU, which is why they're so smug at the moment, although if May actually grows a pair, tells them to stuff it and she delivers a hard brexit (which is far closer to the brexit voted for than chequers ever would be) the EU won't be laughing then, they'll realise we'll do far better without them and junker and pals can go down with their sinking EU ship!

i hope so, the way some people have been talking on the radio recently it sounds like the world will end if we dont get a deal!!

[Harnser]

I have just about had enough of the whole thing . Let’s just walk away and get on with our lives . They are making it as hard as possible so that others who may want to leave think twice about .i voted to leave I want our people to be governed from here not from Brussels .lets walk away and put a big fence up between the Republic of Ireland and ulster and get on with our British life style so envied thoughout the world . I would love to see that drunken sot from Brussels face if we do .

harnser 

Edited September 21, 2018 by Harnser

[ditchman]

very much agree with harnser......................i think the "other" member states "speak with forked tongue"....and they will approach us after brexit for connection and good trading..........which will be to the anger of the EU and they will stamp on it..........and then that will signal the start of the end.........

interesting times....

although i live in semi abject poverty..im very prepared and accept, to experience a drop in my income and living standard to acheive severance from this insideous organistation called the EU parliament....................... we,....the British coined the phrase Parliament...and they have no right to use it in that context.......

[Dave-G]

7 minutes ago, ditchman said:

very much agree with harnser......................i think the "other" member states "speak with forked tongue"....and they will approach us after brexit for connection and good trading..........which will be to the anger of the EU and they will stamp on it..........and then that will signal the start of the end.........

interesting times....

although i live in semi abject poverty..im very prepared and accept, to experience a drop in my income and living standard to acheive severance from this insideous organistation called the EU parliament....................... we,....the British coined the phrase Parliament...and they have no right to use it in that context.......

Well put, we're more alike than I'd realised.

[krugerandsmith]

1 hour ago, Harnser said:

I have just about had enough of the whole thing . Let’s just walk away and get on with our lives . They are making it as hard as possible so that others who may want to leave think twice about .i voted to leave I want our people to be governed from here not from Brussels .lets walk away and put a big fence up between the Republic of Ireland and ulster and get on with our British life style so envied thoughout the world . I would love to see that drunken sot from Brussels face if we do .

harnser 

A fence or ..... Give Northern Ireland back to the South.

[das]

2 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

We're not allowed to do that yet as we're still bound by being a member of the EU, which is why they're so smug at the moment, although if May actually grows a pair, tells them to stuff it and she delivers a hard brexit (which is far closer to the brexit voted for than chequers ever would be) the EU won't be laughing then, they'll realise we'll do far better without them and junker and pals can go down with their sinking EU ship!

My sentiments exactly

[mudpatten]

Strategically, I`m slightly bemused by the intansigence of the EU. What sort of relationship do they envisage with the UK in the hopefully unlikely circumstances of us remaining in the EU.

I run a club and if I had a member who really wanted to leave then I`d facillitate his departure as quickly as possible and under the friendliest of terms. Everybody gets on with their lives, there is no recrimination or festering long term hostility. No scores to settle at some unspecified point in the future

Why, and god forbid it happens, would the EU want a trucculent and uncooperative member who continued to rock the boat violently from within continuing as a member. In terms of long game strategy it makes no sense.

[tignme]

1 hour ago, krugerandsmith said:

A fence or ..... Give Northern Ireland back to the South.

Northern Ireland is as British as England.

[Rewulf]

12 minutes ago, mudpatten said:

Strategically, I`m slightly bemused by the intansigence of the EU. What sort of relationship do they envisage with the UK in the hopefully unlikely circumstances of us remaining in the EU.

I run a club and if I had a member who really wanted to leave then I`d facillitate his departure as quickly as possible and under the friendliest of terms. Everybody gets on with their lives, there is no recrimination or festering long term hostility. No scores to settle at some unspecified point in the future

Why, and god forbid it happens, would the EU want a trucculent and uncooperative member who continued to rock the boat violently from within continuing as a member. In terms of long game strategy it makes no sense.

Simple ,it's called 2nd biggest net contributer. 

Nothing more or less.

I forgot , dumping ground for undesirables too.

[ordnance]

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A fence or ..... Give Northern Ireland back to the South.

Yes you could do that if you want a start a civil war, in this part of the UK. If it comes to it the EU will be demanding the ROI put a hard border in place not the UK government. The ROI and the EU are using the border to try and force concessions from the UK, they are playing a dangerous game. The ROI  government should remember where most of their trade goes to, the UK. 

[JRDS]

27 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

Simple ,it's called 2nd biggest net contributer. 

Nothing more or less.

I forgot , dumping ground for undesirables too.

Don't forget the free Health Service and Benefits to all EU comers, we must be barking mad to have ever got in this place.

[12gauge82]

1 hour ago, JRDS said:

Don't forget the free Health Service and Benefits to all EU comers, we must be barking mad to have ever got in this place.

Spot on, don't forget we were tricked into it, sold a free trade agreement, while giving up our sovereignty, loosing control of our borders, loosing the right to trade with anyone else, make our own laws ect ect ect. The first chance to have a say and we've voted out and even that was a stitch up by the remainiacs.

[Bazooka Joe]

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Give Northern Ireland back to the South.

I've a better idea, the South join the UK, no need for a border then.

 

[ferguson_tom]

If there is no Deal the UK could do a really bold move and make the EU look the the enemy with Ireland. Quite simply say anything coming in from ireland is zero rate tariff and doesn't require any customs checks, it doesn't have to be a bilateral agreement once we leave we can choose how we receive goods from countries individually. If they want a border let them build and man it at their expense. Yes there is a risk Ireland will be the backdoor into Britain but you only have to do it for a few years before you close the gap, by then the Eu should have backed down or if they haven't we still wouldn't be the bad guys.

[krugerandsmith]

8 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said:

I've a better idea, the South join the UK, no need for a border then.

 

You could be right after all the word Dublin does mean Blackpool and as we all know Liverpool is the capital  of Ireland  😁

[norfolk dumpling]

Heard the Czech PM on R4 last week say how much they need us with massive immigration problems facing Europe. I sense we may have a stronger position than they are letting on. Also one of the 'opposition ' commented that they hoped PM(TM) would get a good deal as they were scared bonking Boris might become PM!