wymberley Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, besty57 said: Hi ,the muzzle end was fine ,no damage at all Blockage likely at the breech area? Not qualified to be certain, but likely not anything near the muzzle as it's odds on that there would have been a ring bulge caused by excess pressure before the wave turned about up the barrel and the area seen let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perazzishot Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) Be interesting to know what cartridges he was using. The blockage would appear to be at the forcing cones. If fibre I would think a combination of a damp cartridge, swollen wad and damp powder. A reason why sometimes hearing protection can interfere with telling you what has just happened on your last shot. I've had cases left up the barrels only noticed as I saw just the brass being ejected. A muffled shot left with wad and a clump of unburnt powder in my barrel. The most terrifying was a 20b cartridge (a brand I had never used) I heard fall down the barrel mid drive, trust me hearing the noise falling down the barrel was the only thing that alerted me. I have never found out where the Eley Vip steel came from yet. Certainly though if they are factory made shells both the gun and cartridges need to go back to the manufacturer, as it could also have been a dent in the barrel. Hope the chap recovers well. Edited December 18, 2018 by Perazzishot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 horrific,beretta make strong barrels so I would say more than a bit of wadding......must have been.a full blockage and it looks like the 'classic' cartridge on top of another if not a tight bit of cleaning patch.....horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesefiend Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Looks nasty. Hope he turns out ok. Here are the BASC showpieces, first one shows position (not damage) of an undersized cart slipped down the barrel, second is due to a blockage and the last one (O/U) was shot by a neighbouring gun on a crosser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimo22 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 We had a load of cartridges from a supplier and had a lot that misfired with just a small bang and the wad was left in the barrel. This has happened to at least half a dozen people and all have heard the result and manage to clear the blockage. Most were on O/U so easy to clear but one was on a auto and lucky it did not feed another round in to chamber as the same could of happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Hi guys, Thanks for the replys, I too hope the shooter isn't to badly hurt,there's a boxing day shoot, so I'll ask if anyone knows how he is,and let you know. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 i was out roost shooting years ago, and the gun did not sound right after i fired a shot,it was a semi auto, so i took the barrel off had a look and there was a wad in the barrel good job i looked.the next shot could have been bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Is a jammed wad yet another reason to go over to fibre (unless the wad is found to be fibre). Hope the guy has no lasting damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 In the last forty five years I can think of three occasions when I have had a misfire and a dull sound. On each occasion the wad was stuck in the barrel. It is an absolute must if the cartridge does not sound right to check the barrels. I have been lucky because I found the issue before I fired the next shot. One occasion was using a semi auto on the marsh and I dropped my lead weighted clearing mop down and found the plaswad half way down. This is a wake up for us all; thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Just a quick update I was told yesterday the shooter had three broken fingers,and had lost the tip of a finger ,and would be having plastic surgery on his left hand, Still no idea how it happened tho, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 That’s a blocked barrel due to a faulty cartridge, did the chap keep the cartridges? Is he a BASC member? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Just wondering if it would be possible for the primer to fire and push the load/wad a few inches down the barrel - a fraction of a second later the main charge ignites and blows the barrel apart where the metal is thinner? Just wondering if such a thing could happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 7 hours ago, wabbitbosher said: That’s a blocked barrel due to a faulty cartridge, did the chap keep the cartridges? Is he a BASC member? Answer to both is I don't know, I'm not sure if him or his mates have bee back since, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Just wondering if it would be possible for the primer to fire and push the load/wad a few inches down the barrel - a fraction of a second later the main charge ignites and blows the barrel apart where the metal is thinner? Just wondering if such a thing could happen? Earlier this season whilst decoying duck I experienced something similar. Three duck had wings curled and paddles down coming into the decoys. I pulled the trigger and there was a quiet bang and shot falling from the barrel and splashing the water in front of me. Thankfully I didn’t take a second shot as the wad was stuck in my choke! Once I had removed the wad I inspected the action of my beretta xtrema 2, there was unburnt powder everywhere. Edited January 13, 2019 by WelshAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, WelshAndy said: Earlier this season whilst decoying duck I experienced something similar. Three duck had wings curled and paddles down coming into the decoys. I pulled the trigger and there was a quiet bang and shot falling from the barrel and splashing the water in front of me. Thankfully I didn’t take a second shot as the wad was stuck in my choke! Once I had removed the wad I inspected the action of my beretta xtrema 2, there was unburnt powder everywhere. What cartridges were you using, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Gamebore mammoth 3”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 So, in theory, it's possible? Slightly damp powder - the primer has enough temperature to dry the main charge just enough to ignite? Long shot (pardon the pun) but maybe worth thinking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 We had our summer get together clay drives and barbie last summer A young shooter was using a friends browning just up from me and i heard them say something about an odd sound and the friend said that he gets the odd wad sticking in the barrel They were using eley XL 21g Thankfully they removed it I also have the habit of checking by barrels prior to loading and do'nt use hearing protection when shooting as i like to hear everthing that's going on around me I had one occasion this season where one of my RC prestige cartridges misfired and did'nt go off so was disgarded That was the first time that's happened with these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Any obstruction in a barrel will burst or bulge the barrel ,the most common are snow and mud also a left wad from the pervious shot and a smaller bore cartridge even a spiders web has been known Feltwad A burst M/L Barrel caused by a wad in the barrel Edited January 17, 2019 by Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 That looks like it's been rolled - it has a seam? Never seen a Damascus barrel made out of flat sheet that is the rolled! You can see the fold on the right hand side - how strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Thats the rib ,I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, matone said: Thats the rib ,I would have thought. That's correct it is the rib on a Damascus barrel which is part of the barrel , formed by the skill of the barrel finisher. Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 14/01/2019 at 06:42, bruno22rf said: So, in theory, it's possible? Slightly damp powder - the primer has enough temperature to dry the main charge just enough to ignite? Long shot (pardon the pun) but maybe worth thinking about. I kinda get the impression that once there is an air gap Nitro powder looses all its umph, like trying to make Nitro blanks they never go Bang. so I’m still going with a good cartridge being fired onto a blocked barrel , On 17/01/2019 at 13:04, matone said: Thats the rib ,I would have thought. Yup single barrel rib , boy that barrel looks thin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Barrel looks thin was my first thought. It's thin as a sheet of paper when you look at the bottom part of the split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The gouse Posted April 7, 2019 Report Share Posted April 7, 2019 Son came back from clay shooting today and said was a good job you told me about a wad and getting stuck in barrel. As he had one stuck today. He said he new the sound when he shot was not right and check is barrels to find the wad in the barrel. If I hadn’t read this post could have been a different story. I shot clays for 20 years and never had a plastic wad get stuck. Is this problem just with fibre wads.??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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