snow white Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Hi lads i had a lucky escape today was using 28 bore on first two drives but the birds where to high so i thought would swap to 20 bore had some nice birds as i reloaded i saw a red thing drop in barrel straight away i realized that i must have had 28 in my pocket and i had loaded it thank fully i had seen the red. I can't imagine how my hand would have looked tonight. So lads if you are using two caliber guns when out shooting please check your pockets i had a lucky escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanS Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Good advice! A friend lost part of his thumb and right eye a few years ago when he dropped a 20 into his 12. I only use 12's for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotgcoalman Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 i once tried to load a clipper lighter into a 12 bore 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 A mate offered me a go with his 20 on syndicate last weekend, but swapping guns and bores halfway through the day is a definite no no for me. I don’t intend this as a criticism, I’m pleased you spotted it, it’s just not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 It must happen more often that people think. I do wonder however that say you dropped a 20 into a 12 or 28 into a 20, after closing the gun would you not notice that one barrel does not fire and have a look before blindly sticking another 2 cartridges in and blowing it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 There’s an interesting video on you tube where a 20 bore shell was loaded into a 12 bore on purpose just to see what happened. The 12 bore fired the 20 bore shell straight out of the barrel with no damage what so ever . They were so surprised they tried it twice more ,again with out any damage to the gun . Incidentally none of the 20 bore shells were recovered . harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Hi snow white Regarding your original thread " quote lads if your usng two calibre guns unquote" You should remember that our better looking sex also shoot "Ladies" I sometimes change calibre on a shoot but i have the appropriate gear ie 12g gun 12g cartridge belt with 12g in cartridge bag And the same for 20g and for 16g I have heard of such mishaps but surely if you're fully aware of your equipment and surroundings one should be fully aware of what one is doing being a responsible sgc or fac then one should be fully aware of the fact No excuses allowed I have never heard of anyone loading a 223 into a 243 rifle or a .17hmr into a .22lr or vise versa or perhaps no one has admitted the fact Plus most calibre sizes are colour coded are they not ( perhaps not all brands ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog1408 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 User error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 6 hours ago, sabel25 said: Hi snow white Regarding your original thread " quote lads if your usng two calibre guns unquote" You should remember that our better looking sex also shoot "Ladies" I sometimes change calibre on a shoot but i have the appropriate gear ie 12g gun 12g cartridge belt with 12g in cartridge bag And the same for 20g and for 16g I have heard of such mishaps but surely if you're fully aware of your equipment and surroundings one should be fully aware of what one is doing being a responsible sgc or fac then one should be fully aware of the fact No excuses allowed I have never heard of anyone loading a 223 into a 243 rifle or a .17hmr into a .22lr or vise versa or perhaps no one has admitted the fact Plus most calibre sizes are colour coded are they not ( perhaps not all brands ) Like I said, it’s not for me. I’m not geared up for anything but 12; each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 It really is amazing how dangerous some people are ! It is possible to accidentally load a cartridge designed for a bore two sizes smaller than the one you are using . I.E. 20 will fit into a 12 bore and allow a 12 bore cartridge to be loaded on top and the gun will close and fire, probably with catastophic results ! 28 bore will fit in 20 bore , 24 bore will fit in a 16 bore , 12 bore will fit in an 8 bore . BE CAREFUL CHECK FOR CLEAR BARRELS BEFORE LOADING AND NEVER MIX CARTRIDGES IN BAGS OR POCKETS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Hi Sabel and Salopian. Not going to get in a argument with you i now it should not have happened but it did the 28 must have been in the corner of my jacket as my wife is with me and if i change guns she all ways have you checked your pockets i all ways put half a dozen in pocket the rest in one of two loaders i have one 28 and one 20. I have been shoot for 55 years and this is the first time this as happend used to us 12 and 20 over that period. Just make sure whats in your pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 glad you spotted it.Personally by using 2 different gauges at the same time effectively you did however increase the risk of this very known event.I am glad you 'got away with it' this time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Snow White , We definately do not need to get into arguing over a safety issue . It really is amazing how many of us have had a different size cartridge snuggle down into a dark corner of a shooting jacket , especially those jackets with a pleated pocket that expands so you can get more into them. My very worst horror story is of a Gentleman I met in America who asked did I reload ? On me confirming I did , he said 'wait a while ' and he hurried off . He returned and showed me a piece of blown up barrel he kept in his glove box of his car . " I keep this to show what can happen if you double load a powder or block a barrel , this is what it can do ." He then rolled up his left sleeve to show me a scar 6" long from his wrist to his elbow plus he was minus a thumb and two fingers . " I was lucky, we had a surgeon at the club who stemmed the blood loss with a towel and later operated on me ". He said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I normaly just use a 12g on driven days It's just the odd occasion i take another gauge to try out both gun and cartridges usually the last drive or two I still remeber when i was a youngster we used to visit my grandparents in a small town and i used to go round to the Shooting / fishing tackle shop to look round and buy some pellets or something On this one occasion i went and here was an sxs displayed in the window with both barrels bent round backwards and split Obviously the barrels had been blocked with soil or something when fired, but I never knew what happened to the user At the time i used to shoot my farthers 12g SXS hammer gun That thought still remains with me now some 40 odd years later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 15 hours ago, snow white said: Hi lads i had a lucky escape today w as i reloaded i saw a red thing drop in barrel straight away i realized that i must have had 28 in my pocket and i had loaded it thank fully i had seen the red This is one good reason and example for minding the colors of your cartridges. All 20’s should be yellow with no exceptions. If you use multiple gauge guns ever (not just on the same day) then ensure that your colors don’t overlap. It is a simple thing that you can do as an added layer of protection. If you are observant you can catch things like this. thanks rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Snow White, you were fortunate. It’s easily done. Only yesterday I found myself about to insert a Vicks Nasal Stick in my chamber whilst out shooting pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clodhopper Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 7 hours ago, JDog said: Snow White, you were fortunate. It’s easily done. Only yesterday I found myself about to insert a Vicks Nasal Stick in my chamber whilst out shooting pigeons. You did look funny with the 12 bore shell stuck in your nostril. Good job you didn’t sneeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Its mixing a 16 bore and a 12 bore that scares me. They look so similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, zipdog said: Its mixing a 16 bore and a 12 bore that scares me. They look so similar. I could be wrong BUT, I do not think that a 16 bore followed by a 12 bore will allow the gun to close, will it ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Westley , I believe that is correct . When I say a variation of two different gauges , I did not mean to include what may now be termed obsolete gauges . So don't include 14 bore , 24 bore etc in your calculations . IE 20 into 12 is dangerous , 12 into 8 is dangerous etc., But best safety of all is, DON'T MIX CARTRIDGES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 I use On 16 January 2019 at 12:36, JDog said: Snow White, you were fortunate. It’s easily done. Only yesterday I found myself about to insert a Vicks Nasal Stick in my chamber whilst out shooting pigeons. Could have cleared more than the nasal passages JDog !! OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 I shoot 20 bore and 16 bore and have separate cartridge bags for each, colour coded on the straps with tape, i.e yellow for 20g and blue for 16g. I also have separate bags for non toxic shot for my duck shooting similarly colour coded but clearly marked 'non toxic'. However, I once grabbed the wrong 16g bag (non toxic) for pigeon shooting and found myself using Bismuth (about £1 a throw) on the pigeons. It did improve my kills to cartridge ratio, or perhaps made me more selective on easier shots. Never made that mistake again . OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 On 16/01/2019 at 12:23, sabel25 said: I normaly just use a 12g on driven days It's just the odd occasion i take another gauge to try out both gun and cartridges usually the last drive or two I still remeber when i was a youngster we used to visit my grandparents in a small town and i used to go round to the Shooting / fishing tackle shop to look round and buy some pellets or something On this one occasion i went and here was an sxs displayed in the window with both barrels bent round backwards and split Obviously the barrels had been blocked with soil or something when fired, but I never knew what happened to the user At the time i used to shoot my farthers 12g SXS hammer gun That thought still remains with me now some 40 odd years later I always remember Henry Monks in Chester had a similar display in the window, a sxs with a split barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diss4111 Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 16/01/2019 at 00:54, Harnser said: There’s an interesting video on you tube where a 20 bore shell was loaded into a 12 bore on purpose just to see what happened. The 12 bore fired the 20 bore shell straight out of the barrel with no damage what so ever . They were so surprised they tried it twice more ,again with out any damage to the gun . Incidentally none of the 20 bore shells were recovered . harnser I did this exact thing with an old pump action that was given to my RFD for destruction, We loaded a 20 bore cartridge in and then put a 3" magnum load in behind it. Closed the bolt and fired it using a workmate and a long length of string. All it did was push the 20 bore shell out the end of the barrel at fairly high speed. I still wouldn't recomend anyone trying it and to always check when they load. I have a habit of looking through the barrels after every shot and blowing smoke out if I cannot see through. I had a stuck wad many years ago that left a ring bulge in a barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Diss4111 said: I have a habit of looking through the barrels after every shot and blowing smoke out if I cannot see through. Me too, although it's not always practical on a 'hot' peg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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