udderlyoffroad Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, blade said: I for one can wait 2 days to see what happens Seconded. Don't bother with licences, see what Monday brings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, blade said: The link is from the gov.UK website Do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wild-birds-licence-to-control-certain-species Just now, blade said: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wild-birds-licence-to-control-certain-species Just scroll down passed the different licences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotgcoalman Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 I predict .Gov/NE website being down on Monday due to server overload🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, blade said: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wild-birds-licence-to-control-certain-species Just scroll down passed the different licences Nothing there that says there won't be an application process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Did you have to apply for the general licence before ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, blade said: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wild-birds-licence-to-control-certain-species Just scroll down passed the different licences Thanks for the link, I can see nothing that relates to us being able to carry on as before, I will wait and see but I feel we will still need to apply for a licence. New general licences will go live on GOV.UK from next week commencing 29 April. These will: cover the majority of circumstances previously covered by the revoked general licences, GL04, GL05 and GL06 ensure landowners can continue to take necessary action, whilst also taking into account the needs of wildlife If you need to act within the law before these are ready, use the relevant application form on this page to apply for a licence to control certain wild bird species. 4 minutes ago, blade said: Did you have to apply for the general licence before ? No, but things have changed since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, blade said: Did you have to apply for the general licence before ? No. But the legal challenge is all about NE not abdicating responsibility for agreeing that lethal methods are appropriate. As it stands legally the decision is theirs, not ours. There is no way they can meet that criteria without an application process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelhall Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 13 hours ago, lancer425 said: And with a bit of luck Scotland and wales can meet any future events with more consultation and perhaps a better outcome. To late thousands of crows of all species and pigeons passing over my house crossing the border prepare for mass immigration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 All we can do is wait and see i can go 2 days without crop protecting 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 In my 6 decades on old mother earth this is one of the few times that I can recall that I have felt really, and I mean really, brassed off with "authorities" who issue this or that edict and the population is supposed to touch our respective forelock's safe in the knowledge that they have our very best interests at heart. Bad mood Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, squirrelhall said: To late thousands of crows of all species and pigeons passing over my house crossing the border prepare for mass immigration ..probably "Wee Jimmy" has promised them a vote in her next devolution referendum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 There was a bit of discussion this morning on R4 Farming Today. Marian Spain from NE insisting that the new GL's will be available "in a few days". Starts at 6:39 minutes in. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0004crk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, blade said: All we can do is wait and see i can go 2 days without crop protecting 😁 Sorry I thought in your earlier post you had info to that effect? “You don't need to apply it will be just like the old one but worded different.People only need to apply now if you have to shoot over the weekend.I for one can wait 2 days to see what happens” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisman Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 I have applied for a permit but their inbox is full. I wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Friend said the same when he applied, I couldn't even view the form to print it. I'm going to wait until Monday. Absolute joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 hours ago, chairman said: Just spoken to the Natural England call centre who have told me the following. At the moment a licence is needed for each farm that you have permission to shoot and full addresses and grid references are required with a good reason to shoot. When I stated that I have permission on18 farms so would require 18 individual applications, his reply was un printable! He then stated that on Monday, a new general licence was due to be issued that was in essence, the same arrangement as the old withdrawn one but with specific named species and there would be no application required from shooters or farmers. If this is correct then problem solved but wait and see. Chairman Good, here's hoping. My application has bounced back three times now so I will just wait & see. Ta v much ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 just seen the forms on line, how do you sign it.and they want to know more then we thought what farm you want to shoot on,land grid ref.it looks like one form for one farm,i shoot 20 farms,its a joke, not easy at all.is it going to be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, Teal said: Friend said the same when he applied, I couldn't even view the form to print it. I'm going to wait until Monday. Absolute joke. Yep, lets hope come Monday we can all breathe a sigh of relief, as you say its been an absolute joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) Hopefully on Moday we'll have new GL's that meet the legal criteria and we don't have to submit 20+ applications via the current process. I think last nights and todays debarcle was a knee jerk reaction/bodge to at least allow people to apply (and still effectively shoot) until things are clearer on Monday. It isn't easy to suddenly put in place an IT process that supports what NE have tried to achieve. It's a mess, but hardly surprising. Roll on Monday. Edited April 26, 2019 by hedge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, sam triple said: just heard some one has released a record regarding the plight and decline of song birds in this country I wander if Packham and his crew will be buying it or contributing to it in any way I saw that on both sky and BBC....it was the RSPB releasing it . The spokespersons said the decline was due to "Farming Practices". Edited April 26, 2019 by wyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 well it looks like out tomorrow out after squirrels and rabbits for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bavarianbrit Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 24/04/2019 at 09:54, bluesj said: As this all started with eu law in the first place (i think) but was just rubber stamped in to uk law with the gl being a quick fix when it was realised a cock up had been made, what are the rules for other eu contries? In Germany they can only be shot after they have migrated south to the med = a stupid hunting law as a sap to the antis. BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisman Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just got through to them after four attempts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 52 minutes ago, wyn said: I saw that on both sky and BBC....it was the RSPB releasing it . The spokespersons said the decline was due to "Farming Practices". Laughable.... 52 minutes ago, mossy835 said: well it looks like out tomorrow out after squirrels and rabbits for a while. Ive been stalking and foxing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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