toxo Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just had my 07 XTrail columbia wiped out whilst I was indoors watching the telly. Loved it except for the noisy timing chain. Don't know what they're gonna offer me but have to look for something. Question is have the later XTrails solved the noisy chain or what else should I be looking at? Auto diesel preferably and budget is limited. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 The noisy timing chain was a faulty chain tensioner and was a recall many years ago. I thought they had sorted it but more recent users should know from practical experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, spurs 14 said: I’d look at a Land Rover discovery 3 I wouldn't! I had a 55 plate X-Trail from brand new, kept it for 8.5 years, the longest I ever kept any vihicle by years, then it fell apart and virtually everything expensive went wrong at the same time. Virtually flawless up to then. I got a LR then, nothing but trouble, so I got a Brand New one, it was even wose, 14 warranty returns, and after non stop warfare with JLR and the dealer they supplied me a replacement brand new one. Problem with the New X-Trails is they are nothing like the original and have a ****y Renault engine now. Pal of mine just spent £100K on a brand new Range Rover, it nearly lasted a month before it broke down. In honesty I don't know what I'll get next, but I can be very confident it will NOT be a JLR product! Edited July 15, 2019 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 xtrails are bad for the abs sender bolts rusting and the abs senders being jammed then brake when you try to remove them freelanders are worse for abs problems i have a 2002 jeep cherokee liberty 3.7 litre auto limited edition its great no problems so far touch wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxo Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Dekers said: I wouldn't! I had a 55 plate X-Trail from brand new, kept it for 8.5 years, the longest I ever kept any vihicle by years, then it fell apart and virtually everything expensive went wrong at the same time. Virtually flawless up to then. I got a LR then, nothing but trouble, so I got a Brand New one, it was even wose, 14 warranty returns, and after non stop warfare with JLR and the dealer they supplied me a replacement brand new one. Problem with the New X-Trails is they are nothing like the original and have a ****y Renault engine now. Pal of mine just spent £100K on a brand new Range Rover, it nearly lasted a month before it broke down. In honesty I don't know what I'll get next, but I can be very confident it will NOT be a JLR product! When was the engine change Deker? The engine on my diesel 07 was great. In fact the only fault for me is/was (they've just taken it away) the noisy timing chain and the stupid built in sat nav. Might have to stump up for an 08 to get rid of the sat nav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan123shooting Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 11 hours ago, spurs 14 said: I’d look at a Land Rover discovery 3 Yes fine , if you have deep pockets for repairs, the 18 months I had one, it was off the road more than on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPhantom Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Still driving my 54 plate 2.2 dci and will look at getting another later version when this one dies. Relatively trouble free up until the last 2 years where I’ve had a couple of scary big bills with a new fuel pump and clutch. Interested in opinions on the new Xtrails and how they compare to the old style. Looks-wise it is a totally different car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, toxo said: When was the engine change Deker? The engine on my diesel 07 was great. In fact the only fault for me is/was (they've just taken it away) the noisy timing chain and the stupid built in sat nav. Might have to stump up for an 08 to get rid of the sat nav. Mine was the 2.2 diesel, never had a problem with the engine. Had they just moved to the 2.0 Diesel in your 07? Timing chain was noisy in later life! Sat Nav was fine except it didn't know what a Post Code was and needed £300 CDs to update it (I never invested)! 2 hours ago, MrPhantom said: Still driving my 54 plate 2.2 dci and will look at getting another later version when this one dies. Relatively trouble free up until the last 2 years where I’ve had a couple of scary big bills with a new fuel pump and clutch. Interested in opinions on the new Xtrails and how they compare to the old style. Looks-wise it is a totally different car. I don't know if it will be across the whole model range of the X Trail, but at least some have Renault engines now, so a totally different vehicle with a totally different engine! Edited July 16, 2019 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu64 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 My wife has a disco 3 and loves it. we bought it 2 years ago and its been faultless. BUT- we bought it from my son who is a mechanic, and before he sold it to us he replaced the timing belts, oil pump-known to fail on a mounting bolt, diesel pump belt and did a full service and mot. the electric handbrake had been done not too long before. if you get one thats been looked after they are good cars, but they are expensive to run and there are a lot about that haven't been serviced properly because its expensive to do thoroughly. There are thousands on the road and they can't all be bad, but again-they are expensive to run and repair. my xtrail was written off two years ago and I bought a 2012 grand vitara 2.4 petrol. it hasn't got the room of the old xtrail, which I miss. It drives like a car rather than a 4x4-it handles nicer than a disco 3. whatever car you ask about there will be lovers and haters. personally I'm not a fan of anything with a dpf fitted- silly idea prone to trouble. newer xtrail has it and thats why I didn't buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxo Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Dekers said: Mine was the 2.2 diesel, never had a problem with the engine. Had they just moved to the 2.0 Diesel in your 07? Timing chain was noisy in later life! Sat Nav was fine except it didn't know what a Post Code was and needed £300 CDs to update it (I never invested)! I don't know if it will be across the whole model range of the X Trail, but at least some have Renault engines now, so a totally different vehicle with a totally different engine! 2.2 diesel. Couldn't fault it apart from the timing chain. Probably the same as yours with the clocks off to the side. Wanted a posh van and it certainly fits the bill. Depending on what they offer me I might be able to afford a late 07 2.0 dCi 6AT AWD which is the updated version with the clocks in the normal place behind the steering wheel. It's got 150,000 but all the toys inc rev camera and heated seats. The mileage doesn't phase me, now I'm retired I hardly do any miles. Just looked at my mot, 6th March last year it had 101,098 on it. Mot a couple of months ago - 103,014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 It’s the road tax on them....around £300 a year, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 If you don't do many miles buy what you want. Running costs would be low at under 3k a year. A Volvo XC90 is a nice drive and a good one isn't too expensive. Auto box and 2.4 diesel engine is good for many hundreds of thousands of miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) I've had a t30 2.2ltr bought second hand kept it for 5yrs until timing chain went & wrecked the engine (14 months after getting a full new kit fitted) had a td5 (that's all I'm saying on that 1) shogun 2.5td was good until bottom pulley went , toyota hilux surf needed an engine replacement after 6 weeks of owning it got a good S/H one & fitted myself kept it four yrs then sold it on still going strong .. automatic vehicles I've had a jeep grand Cherokee 2.7crd and regret every minute of selling it then had a couple of 2wd cars now got a Volvo xc90 d5 auto My order of likes 1 jeep grand Cherokee (not as good as the t30 on fuel) 2 xtrail t30 3 Volvo xc90 If they done the t30 in automatic diesel that's what I'd have now but they don't and the Renault engined ones aren't a patch on the 2.2td nissan unit (as long as you keep on top of the chain) Edited July 17, 2019 by hodge911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxo Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 This is all very confusing. they've offered me under 2000 with the 195 excess taken of (which I call a right liberty when I was sitting in my armchair at the time). Of course I declined it but if i look down the back of the sofa I might manage a late 07 or an 08 with auto and the 2l engine and auto. With the two penn'orth of miles that I do I'm not gonna worry about the engine as long as it doesn't have that rattly chain. Was it sorted by then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, toxo said: This is all very confusing. they've offered me under 2000 with the 195 excess taken of (which I call a right liberty when I was sitting in my armchair at the time). Of course I declined it but if i look down the back of the sofa I might manage a late 07 or an 08 with auto and the 2l engine and auto. With the two penn'orth of miles that I do I'm not gonna worry about the engine as long as it doesn't have that rattly chain. Was it sorted by then? If a 2.5 petrol auto comes available its got noticeably more grunt than the 2.0 and almost the exact same mpg. I had a 2.5 till some wally probably texting while driving slammed into the rear end writing it off, tow bar crumpled the boot floor and both rear wings closed up to the doors so no point buying it back. I disputed the value they claimed - stating Auto's are harder to find and attract a premium - I had to show them online examples and got an extra £290 off them. I noticed the reduced power of the a 2.0 a lot at first but its not an issue now - and I don't tow anything so I can live with it. The petrol variants are super dooper quiet - I can usually creep into fac air range of grazing bunnies without them spooking. You'll likely know of the rear turret rust issues of older T30's, so take preventative action if you get a newer T30. I really like the fact the rifle can be stowed on the 'intermediate dash' and its brilliant shoot from the driving seat capability. Edited July 17, 2019 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I’ve had my terios around 18 months I think now. It’s been fantastic off road and the perfect shoot wagon. Only down side is it’s rotting . It’s a 2005 model so last of the old shape but I’m gutted2010 was the last year to buy diatshu in Europe. Excellent cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 hours ago, team tractor said: I’ve had my terios around 18 months I think now. It’s been fantastic off road and the perfect shoot wagon. Only down side is it’s rotting . It’s a 2005 model so last of the old shape but I’m gutted2010 was the last year to buy diatshu in Europe. Excellent cars hello, SNAP TT just had to do a little paint job yesterday on a wheel arch apart from that its in good condition, mine is a 2006 registered but old shape, only done around 45,000, i keep thinking to change it but what for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, SNAP TT just had to do a little paint job yesterday on a wheel arch apart from that its in good condition, mine is a 2006 registered but old shape, only done around 45,000, i keep thinking to change it but what for My family loves terry. It’s suffering a fair bit now 😞 I’m gutted. The new shape terios is £3-4K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, team tractor said: My family loves terry. It’s suffering a fair bit now 😞 I’m gutted. The new shape terios is £3-4K hello, the new shape Terios do look better, i want something with a lift up back door, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dessyb Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) i bought the last t31 in 2014 just done 26000 miles the best by far vehicle i have bought. nice quiet very good on fuel and goes like stink. Edited July 19, 2019 by dessyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, dessyb said: i bought the last t30 in 2014 just done 26000 miles the best by far vehicle i have bought. nice quiet very good on fuel and goes like stink. T30 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just this weekend bought a 07 x trail. Well happy with it. Don't have to **** myself when I see a speed bump compared to the msport beemer I just sold. 👍 Had the timing chain tensioner and chain changed before I bought it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 20:05, team tractor said: T30 ?? The earlier X-trail with the clocks in the middle was a T30, the next model with the clocks in the "right" place was a T31. Don't know what the latest one is called, Dacia at a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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