B725 Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 I did notice that they chose red so you can see the empties in the grass,not much help if you are colour blind as a few on hear are.Iwill see what the feed back is from those that have already ordered some, I'm thinking for me 32g 7s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, daisyrob1 said: A 6.5 option 2.5mm would be nice. A man who knows. 1 hour ago, enfieldspares said: 30 gram #7 or 1 1/16 ounce in "old money" has been available for years in Eley Grand Prix. A gun I shot with maybe thirty plus years ago used it. And is listed by Lylvale in their Supreme Game range also. So if people have been asking "for years" and not found one try the above two companies. Used the Eley 6&1/2s pigeon loads for years until they dried up. Handy these as I could use them for everything that I shot at. Switched to Rottweil but have now been forced ton act my age - not to mention concern for my wallet. 1 oz of 7s gives the same pellet count so crack on, just curtail the range a whisper on the rare occasion it becomes necessary. When it comes to a reasonably priced game load as above, whereas 2 are available, only one suits my gun. Yep, there are ways around it - get a gun with a longer chamber and use clay loads. But why? With just the two 2&1/2" chamber game load in 1 oz of 7s readily available, never mind a niche, a full blown market space is up for grabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 4 hours ago, enfieldspares said: 30 gram #7 or 1 1/16 ounce in "old money" has been available for years in Eley Grand Prix. A gun I shot with maybe thirty plus years ago used it. And is listed by Lylvale in their Supreme Game range also. So if people have been asking "for years" and not found one try the above two companies. I should have added “at a reasonable price” sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Empire Andrew said: Apologies a bit of a misunderstanding there the Fibre wad with steel threw me.. We have just had samples of a compostable in soil bio plastic steel wad that has worked in prototype form with 36g steel in a 70mm case for testing only. We don’t have any 65mm cases as had to focus on the large volume 70mm market as a new company. But once we are rolling a 65mm Steel load with this degradable wad will be on the list for new products. Cheers Andrew Thankyou @oldypigeonpopper Three and a half million pounds think I can set up my own factory for a bit less not hard to say you don’t have them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said: I should have added “at a reasonable price” sorry. LOL! Yes. That's true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 Empire carts 28g 7 (2.4) - just under £240 per 1000. Gamebore 28g 7.5 (UK 7 - 2.4) - £243 per 1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisyrob1 Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 7 hours ago, wymberley said: A man who knows. Used the Eley 6&1/2s pigeon loads for years until they dried up. Handy these as I could use them for everything that I shot at. Switched to Rottweil but have now been forced ton act my age - not to mention concern for my wallet. 1 oz of 7s gives the same pellet count so crack on, just curtail the range a whisper on the rare occasion it becomes necessary. When it comes to a reasonably priced game load as above, whereas 2 are available, only one suits my gun. Yep, there are ways around it - get a gun with a longer chamber and use clay loads. But why? With just the two 2&1/2" chamber game load in 1 oz of 7s readily available, never mind a niche, a full blown market space is up for grabs. 6.5 32g fibre are like rocking horse ****, rc sipe 7 our 6.5 generally £330 a thou empire £280,a slab from just carts £97+15 postage empire £80 all in if they did them I'd certainly try them👍I see on their website they do 7.5 in a 32g think they would get a lot more takers for a 6.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 Do Empire charge ANYTHING for Postage or is the cost per slab or per 1000 included in the price? If the postage is included fair play. Even if you have to buy more than a few slabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Do Empire charge ANYTHING for Postage or is the cost per slab or per 1000 included in the price? If the postage is included fair play. Even if you have to buy more than a few slabs. hello, i read on the web site free delivery under the 250 28g 6 shot fibre, 70 mm £69.75 but 4 its £59.75, 1000 24g less than £200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i read on the web site free delivery under the 250 28g 6 shot fibre, 70 mm £69.75 but 4 its £59.75, 1000 24g less than £200 Decent price and making what people want, I'd buy few slabs If I hadn't just stocked up 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmo Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 I’ve spoke to the owner , sounds a decent sort . Getting just what I need 28g 32g and 36g all delivered and syndicate name printed all cheaper than my usual shell . Does it get any better ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Oh look the thread has returned! Very curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Oh look the thread has returned! Very curious Only need ditchman and it’s a full house 😂😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Tomorrow! 👍👍👍👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Only need ditchman and it’s a full house 😂😊 hello, plus 1 its not the same on here without Simon, just hope he does not get another lockdown Edited May 14, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkom Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Andrew, I noted your claim to utilise top class hulls, referencing the quality of the plastic. Can you also please clarify the nature of the cartridge head ie is it made of brass or is it steel with a thin "brass" plated coating? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 4 hours ago, harkom said: Andrew, I noted your claim to utilise top class hulls, referencing the quality of the plastic. Can you also please clarify the nature of the cartridge head ie is it made of brass or is it steel with a thin "brass" plated coating? Thanks. I was under the impression all modern made cartridges are steel with a coating. I imagine I could be incorrect though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Like wise ,thought brass heads went donkeys years ago ! Edited May 15, 2020 by matone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmo Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Our syndicate have ordered 8000 so as soon as they arrive I’ll do some essential vermin control and let you know . We ordered the full Bhuna 28 32 and 36g ......... I’ll let you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkom Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 15/05/2020 at 14:23, JTaylor91 said: I was under the impression all modern made cartridges are steel with a coating. I imagine I could be incorrect though On 15/05/2020 at 16:31, matone said: Like wise ,thought brass heads went donkeys years ago ! Better be sure of your facts before you........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 I was given a box of empires to try and I will point out straight away that I’m far from a decent shot but these 3 pheasants lost a discussion to empire’s 32g 6’s.... if you are of the mindset of buying British/ local or supporting small businesses (or all of the above) then I’d say give them a try and make your own minds up based on the quality of the customer service and the product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmo Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 I’ve been using them on essential corvid and pigeon and they do the job . If you like a “ hotter than average “ shell these are the boys . I’m shooting crows out to 50 yards with half choke and M2 with no issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Was going to try some of these next purchase but the last thing I`m interested in are `hotter` which is a shame. Are the whole range `hotter`? Edited July 12, 2020 by matone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmo Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 When I said hotter they are a wee bit harder hitting than the average shell . I love them just what you need on rangey corvids . Not used them on game yet but our syndicate have ordered 5 thousand for this season The 30g are a great shell but I’ve been using / experimenting with the 34g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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