udderlyoffroad Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Seems to me to have been a perfect storm of a day... 1) As yet zero Mea Culpa from Corbyn, still blaming the Medjia. 2) Emily Thornberry announces intention to run - The very definition of the Islington Elite, out-of-touch wing of the Labour party. 3) Keir Starmer launching publicity campaign....he reminds me of the popular kid at school that's only popular because he never actually says or does anything 4) The Grauniad throwing their weight behind Long-Bailey and the other one. 5) Tony Blair making some valid points, but because's he's Tony Blair, will be told to Foxtrot Oscar by everyone. Did I miss anything? Given the level of introspection seen thusfar, I predict Labour will spend the next 2 terms squabbling amongst themselves on the opposition benches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Labour are finished, they will never get back to the popularity they had in the past. The reason is they have lost their way politically. No direction, no policies (other than rubbish ones) and no feel good factor about them. They absolutely reek of failure and they can't hide it. None of the candidates mentioned are leadership material (not even close) and now the party is infected with momentum they cannot reform themselves either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, TRINITY said: I agree that is a possibility but there are still some of them around that remember what went on back then. My bet is that they learned their past mistake and will hold the centre. I hope your right but the trade agreement has lots of room for building the opposition with the many hard decisions that will have to be taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Labour show zero sign of learning any lesson whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: Seems to me to have been a perfect storm of a day... 1) As yet zero Mea Culpa from Corbyn, still blaming the Medjia. 2) Emily Thornberry announces intention to run - The very definition of the Islington Elite, out-of-touch wing of the Labour party. 3) Keir Starmer launching publicity campaign....he reminds me of the popular kid at school that's only popular because he never actually says or does anything 4) The Grauniad throwing their weight behind Long-Bailey and the other one. 5) Tony Blair making some valid points, but because's he's Tony Blair, will be told to Foxtrot Oscar by everyone. Did I miss anything? Given the level of introspection seen thusfar, I predict Labour will spend the next 2 terms squabbling amongst themselves on the opposition benches. what about the Dum-libs...everytime there is a by-erection they come from behind..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, ditchman said: what about the Dum-libs...everytime there is a by-erection they come from behind..... Fnarr Fnarr....oh Matron! Don't think there'll be many by-erections in this parliament unless some of the new intake get caught 'badger watching' again (You probably have to be from the South West to remember that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, udderlyoffroad said: 3) Keir Starmer launching publicity campaign....he reminds me of the popular kid at school that's only popular because he never actually says or does anything He reminds me of Robbie Rotten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dibble said: He reminds me of Robbie Rotten Don't have any small people yet, I assume he's a kids TV person? But yes, stiking resplendance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, udderlyoffroad said: Fnarr Fnarr....oh Matron! Don't think there'll be many by-erections in this parliament unless some of the new intake get caught 'badger watching' again (You probably have to be from the South West to remember that) Badger watching on a part of wimbeldon common called "goblers gulch"....no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ditchman said: 3) Keir Starmer launching publicity campaign....he reminds me of the popular kid at school that's only popular because he never actually says or does anything The Beeb have him down as a centrist - if he is centre any true centrist will be branded a raving Nazi!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ditchman said: what about the Dum-libs...everytime there is a by-erection they come from behind..... The Lib Dems are the pointless party. They don't have any cards up their sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Walter Mitty Alert. Thornberry says "You can't make sh-- up", eh? In 2016 Thornberry claimed to be an Honorary Colonel when in fact she wasn't. A liar in fancy dress... The MOD dismissed her claim, insisting there was no record of Thornberry, or any other civilian legal representative, being given honorary rank in respect of their work as a barrister or a solicitor. General The Lord Richard Dannatt, who led thousands of British troops in Iraq, said Thornberry’s claim raised further concerns about her level of understanding of defence affairs. He said: " She’s tried to give herself some credentials but I’m afraid in doing so she’s made herself look incredible". The collar badges are Intelligence Corps, the cap badge is Royal Corps of Signals. It’s not even accurate fancy dress. Veterans call these people 'Walts' after Walter Mitty, characterised has "an ordinary often ineffectual person who indulges in fantastic daydreams of personal triumphs". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 16/12/2019 at 20:23, Dibble said: My Grandfather used to say "if you are under 21 and don't vote Labour you haven't got a heart, if you are over 21 and vote Labour you havnt got a brain" this was the "working class" Grandfather who lived in a council house had a manual job and made sure his daughters were educated and became a teacher and a civil servant. I grew up in the north east and had a heart, Labour politics were to do with heart, helping people to live decent lives and "better themselves", helping the community, supporting the weak. I think Northern Protestentism played it's part. It involved a deep belief in equality and justice and everybody doing their part to make two ears of corn grow where only one has grown before. Southern Labour is intellectual Labour, rhetoric Labour, do what I say not what I do because I know better Labour Let's set a higher tax threshold at £85k just above our salaries of £79k because we are not privileged, send our children to private schools because ,because it's different for us. Mind you Rebecca Long-Baily is one of the rudest people I have ever heard treating anyone who disagrees with her as too stupid to understand the argument and she is northern well Manchester which is sort of north. Apart from her compare South vs North.... Kier Starmer reminds me of Robbie Rotten from Lazytown....South Emily Thornberry is the epitome of Islington but more slippery.......South Angela Rayner comes across well.....North Jess Phillips would get my vote......North Astute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Unfortunately that is a mocked up picture for the Daily Mail back in 2016. I do not doubt she has claimed such a thing and she has no grounds to do so, but I also don't believe she is quite as stupid as that picture suggests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 if she is an honary colnel...............then im a fieldmarshall in the NLF...(norfolk liberation front) dont yer know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, ditchman said: if she is an honary colnel...............then im a fieldmarshall in the NLF...(norfolk liberation front) dont yer know I am an honary Admiral in the Nebraska State Navy. Its genuine signed by the Governor and everything. But I don't put it on my CV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Millionaire, moi ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Great stuff, fancy having the fact that you're a millionaire removed from your Wikipedia page! What a plonker! I like this one too; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 17/12/2019 at 20:25, Paddy Galore! said: I don't care who it is as long as they have some common sense this time please, is there such a person? Still looking. Not at all hopeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 17/12/2019 at 20:25, Paddy Galore! said: I don't care who it is as long as they have some common sense this time please, is there such a person? This lady seems quite bright. Smart enough not to want the poisoned chalice of leadership though. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/18/labour-working-class-voters-policies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 hours ago, ditchman said: if she is an honary colnel...............then im a fieldmarshall in the NLF...(norfolk liberation front) dont yer know Perhaps she meant kernel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Quite NUTTY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 what reason...........................(fruit&nut) this can only go one way now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just listening to Corbyn on the box in parliament. Will he just go the ... is a waste of decent oxygen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) clive lewis has just chucked his hat in the ring.....................he has a bit of history....i cant put my finger on it but there is something i really dont like about him... still think Jess philips from Brum should add her name to the list.............if they arnt careful ...they will make the same mistake again i expect a lot more wailing and knashing of teeth yet from labour.....infact i dont rekon its properly started yet... Edited December 19, 2019 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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