ditchman Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, panoma1 said: When, years ago I used to spend my days off work (during the week) fly fishing at a local trout fishing reservoir, a certain MP would often rock up, ingratiating himself on the fishery staff with a boot full of “House of Commons” labelled malt whisky.....he got his fishing for free......and he was there a lot!......He must have been, as he was usually there when I was there, on my days off! It’s debatable if he ever attended the house of commons!!.......totally idle, freeloader! i wonder if he was the same person who shot in norfolk...everywhere he went there was house of commons labeled whiskey.......???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 37 minutes ago, oowee said: Hopefully he got sacked. Yeah right! Not at all but there are a number of MP's that work every hour they are awake. All as I am saying is that for some being a politician is a lifestyle choice and they give everything they have for the cause. Do we have some names for these super MP s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Do we have some names for these super MP s? Occasionally when bored I have checked the antecedents of some mp,s. Their general pattern in life appears to be full time education till late teens early twenties then full time occupation in some political role, finally progressing to mp. In other words they have not done an honest days graft in their pampered lives. In respect of my own mp John trickett , the bloke is a total ***** who has no idea of what it is like to work for a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, oowee said: Hopefully he got sacked. Doesn't that usually involve moving into the upper house, or a golden handshake and a job in the civil service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 I don't care who it is as long as they have some common sense this time please, is there such a person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Can’t think of anyone better than Lisa Nandy, not that that’s exactly a ringing endorsement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Mighty Ruler said: Can’t think of anyone better than Lisa Nandy, not that that’s exactly a ringing endorsement. Not knocking the lass BUT !!!!! As my post above, grand daughter of an MP, long time spent in higher education, straight into a job as a political researcher, then MP. Cosseted life in politics, never had to earn or make a penny in her life. Parliament is full of these 'pretenders' who have never had to live and survive in the real world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 So, she is in the Corbyn mould, but without the surly attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 My prediction female don't matter if she is fit for the job as long as she fits in with the communists and pc brigades agender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 If the PLP stick with the hard left and elect another hard left leader, I do not believe the Labour Party will claw back those voters they have lost........if this is the case, then the only way they might get back into power is if the Tory’s, by their performance whilst in government, is so **** poor....the electorate will have no choice but to give someone else a bash at it!.......much as we had in the last GE really!....... A least worst option! In my opinion, no political party ever wins an General election....the opposition hands it to em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) Kier Starmer (what did he get the Knighthood for?) is saying he wants to maintain the extreme left leaning of the Leadership and may well stand in the leadership race. Will they NEVER LEARN? Blimey Lady Nugee is standing! Emily (I'm not posh) Thornberry to attempt Labour Leadership. Edited December 18, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE Capitalisation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 they havnt learnt a thing.........its all still about me me me me me mem..............stuff the electorate ...what about my job and pension blah di blah di blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) Richard Burgon has just been asked directly on the BBC's Politics Live whether Jeremy Corbyn invited Gerry Adams in to the Houses of Parliament 4 days after the Brighton Bombing? He would not answer! That speaks volumes. Edited December 18, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 They'll vote in Jeremy without a beard. Momentum have too much of a grip on the party and when people don't vote for a woman they can claim sexism as well as the rest of the pejoratives they level at the working class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Demonic69 said: They'll vote in Jeremy without a beard. Momentum have too much of a grip on the party and when people don't vote for a woman they can claim sexism as well as the rest of the pejoratives they level at the working class. Rebecca Long-Bailey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Rebecca Long-Bailey? Unless they can find someone with more points (ethnic minority, disabled, homosexual, non-binary etc.). If you can be called "*-ist" or "*-ic" for not voting for them they're onto a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 15 hours ago, TRINITY said: Not knocking the lass BUT !!!!! As my post above, grand daughter of an MP, long time spent in higher education, straight into a job as a political researcher, then MP. Cosseted life in politics, never had to earn or make a penny in her life. Parliament is full of these 'pretenders' who have never had to live and survive in the real world Well Starmer, Cooper and Benn did their best to block Brexit, perhaps that’ll be forgotten in 5 years time, by some anyway. Lady Nugee is hopeless. Rayner and RLB are just female Corbyns, Nandy, I believe is not as far left so she’s probably the best bet unless someone else emerges who I hadn’t thought of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Mighty Ruler said: Well Starmer, Cooper and Benn did their best to block Brexit, perhaps that’ll be forgotten in 5 years time, by some anyway. Lady Nugee is hopeless. Rayner and RLB are just female Corbyns, Nandy, I believe is not as far left so she’s probably the best bet unless someone else emerges who I hadn’t thought of. Just after I made the post about her, she came on the telly. She comes over as honest and decent and I believe she is a nice genuine person. However to get the top and stay there is a difficult task. I think the left of her party will demolish her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, TRINITY said: Just after I made the post about her, she came on the telly. She comes over as honest and decent and I believe she is a nice genuine person. However to get the top and stay there is a difficult task. I think the left of her party will demolish her. Don’t know why I care really, I can’t see me ever voting Labour again, I suppose having a credible alternative keeps the Tories on their toes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deker Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Mighty Ruler said: Don’t know why I care really, I can’t see me ever voting Labour again, I suppose having a credible alternative keeps the Tories on their toes. The way they're going the credible alternative has chance to be a different party altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Mighty Ruler said: Don’t know why I care really, I can’t see me ever voting Labour again, I suppose having a credible alternative keeps the Tories on their toes. On their toe's and moderate. Too easy for a party to loose the plot if they are not held to account. With a couple of terms the Tories will either have made the future bright or created the conditions for replacement. The bigger task for labour is not to replace the leader but the hard left ideology that got them bounced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Quote The bigger task for labour is not to replace the leader but the hard left ideology that got them bounced. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, oowee said: . The bigger task for labour is not to replace the leader but the hard left ideology that got them bounced. You will never replace the hard left because that is what they are and have always been,they will never change. Over the years they have managed to bury this for short periods and mask the truth. However it always comes back to the surface. Tories have always been what they are, in the early 1900,s the liberals were the moderate left and in 1920 labour was born as a hard left of moderate party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, TRINITY said: You will never replace the hard left because that is what they are and have always been,they will never change. Over the years they have managed to bury this for short periods and mask the truth. However it always comes back to the surface. Tories have always been what they are, in the early 1900,s the liberals were the moderate left and in 1920 labour was born as a hard left of moderate party New labour captured the centre ground. Tories are likely to move further right given free reign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, oowee said: New labour captured the centre ground. Tories are likely to move further right given free reign. I agree that is a possibility but there are still some of them around that remember what went on back then. My bet is that they learned their past mistake and will hold the centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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