TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Any one else seen this? https://www.fieldsportschannel.tv/ireland-imposes-pigeon-season/ Edited May 15, 2020 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Be very interesting to see just who this professional scientific advisor is or are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 I do hope NRW and Natural England are not reading this.No consultation ,All based on the scientific evidence? So easy to twist the evidence.Let this be a warning to our organisations and the general shooting fraternity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Absolutely absurd. These surveys and what ever all seem to be done by tree hugging carrot nibblers so there out come is decided before they start. Bit by bit our way of life is getting eroded and will continue to happen. We are losing chunks all the time. All field sports no matter what forms should have stuck together. It all started back with the hunting act. Especially the terrier folks and lurcher people who seem to all be vilified. Yes there are idiots but there are in all sports. I did plan on a gundog in the next few years but the way this going maybe not. The thumb screws are just getting tighter and tighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Backs against the wall,only one way now,come out fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, DUNKS said: Be very interesting to see just who this professional scientific advisor is or are! hello, maybe someone we know who lives in the New Forest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Oh look here we go let have a go at the game keepers to give our selves a job because some one may have shot a kite in april. The news is also a waste of time A welsh news article today Illegal bird killings ‘surge’ during lockdown There has been an increase in the number of birds of prey being illegally killed since the beginning of the coronavirus lockdown, according to the RSPB. The wildlife charity said the crimes were “orchestrated” and most had connections with shooting estates. Some of the raptors - birds of prey - targeted include peregrine falcons, red kites, buzzards and hen harriers. In late April, a red kite was found dead in Powys after being shot. Edited May 15, 2020 by captainhastings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 If the shooting of these birds is right I am willing to bet it is with air rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, captainhastings said: Oh look here we go let have a go at the game keepers to give our selves a job because some one may have shot a kite in april. The news is also a waste of time A welsh news article today Illegal bird killings ‘surge’ during lockdown There has been an increase in the number of birds of prey being illegally killed since the beginning of the coronavirus lockdown, according to the RSPB. The wildlife charity said the crimes were “orchestrated” and most had connections with shooting estates. Some of the raptors - birds of prey - targeted include peregrine falcons, red kites, buzzards and hen harriers. In late April, a red kite was found dead in Powys after being shot. Just baseless accusations, provided by unknown sources! Where is their evidence? Under C19 lockdown regulations there was no one out and about to witness such things!...........if there was they were probably breaking the law? Edited May 15, 2020 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Just baseless accusations, provided by unknown sources! Where is their evidence? Under C19 lockdown regulations there was no one out and about to witness such things!...........if there was they were probably breaking the law? Exactly yet it gets news space on the bbc and joe public see's it oh thinks omg them horrible shooting people. It does my nut in. Constant news head lines all out to grab viewers and all biased and one sided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 The thing about this for me that doesnt ring true is RSPB are say this is orchestrated with connection to shooting estates as the perpetrators are taking advantage of the lack of people being about to take notice of it. However anyone with half a brain who has been out and about during the lockdown (I have for work) knows that someone would be more likely to get caught committing these nasty crimes rather than less. There are dog walkers, cyclist and jogger blooming everywhere at the moment and while the lockdown was on anyone shooting would stick out like a sore thumb. So if a dead raptor was found freshly shot it wouldnt take long to work out who did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 hello, i can just imagine what the farmers who grow cereal crops, rape and other that pigeon like to feed on think of this !!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) No one cares what the actually farmers think. Around here a good 80% of dairy farmers would love to go out and shoot every badger on site so they dont have to watch there cattle being shot. But god forbid any one harms a cute badger and offends some numpty Edited May 15, 2020 by captainhastings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 I see the person from the New Forest has got his step daughter a job as a guest presenter on spring watch on the BBC.Another thing I can't watch.The BBC is the worst news channel at giving out fake news.No evidence and goodness knows how old the photographs are that they put with these news items.Funny how so few prosecutions there are.People who do take pot shots at any protected bird deserves everything that comes to them and are certainly not doing us in the shooting community any favours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 I wonder how long it will be before the same thing happens in England, not long me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) hello, pigeon are classified as vermin in the UK, ? along with other species under the general licence, if there was a similar approach to Ireland would they all have to be de classified, or given a closed shooting period each year Edited May 16, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 I would bet it happens in Wales first ,with the lack of backbone government we have.Always the first to role over and quick to hand responsibility to NRW . Alw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshirelad Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Brilliant! Let's protect the pests during their most destructive part of the year! Madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameking Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Given the CV19 situation, greater emphasis in the future will be on local supply chains, food security and even a rise in vegans 🙄 and then NI do this ....... I have no doubt that NRW (whose CEO has made anti shooting comments in the past - surprise surprise) will think of this. Where is the NFU ????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Quote Given the CV19 situation, greater emphasis in the future will be on local supply chains, food security and even a rise in vegans 🙄 and then NI do this .. Are the restrictions not in the Republic of Ireland, not the United Kingdom eg Northern Ireland. Edited May 15, 2020 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ordnance said: Are the restrictions not in the Republic of Ireland, not the United Kingdom eg Northern Ireland. You are quite correct! I did put a MASSIVE clue in the title! Edited May 15, 2020 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) In order to shoot a bird, under EU law it has to be outside of the breeding season and pigeon etc should have a game season as this would take pressure off SNH and equivalents as general licences would only be needed outside of game season. Unless something has happened to the contrary and the above report is short on details, Ireland can still shoot pigeon during the breeding season under EU article 9 derogation of the birds directive as a pest species if they issue general licences and have renewed the derogation as per their 2018 report and 2019 consultation. This move has been coming as legislated for in 2009. Link to Irish general licence below https://www.npws.ie/legislation/irish-law/eu-birds-directive-derogations Can still shoot them 1st Sept to 30th May each year, but June, July and aug (when most young birds are about), no shooting. I would also note that generally pigeon don't do a great deal of damage to crops in this period. Edited May 15, 2020 by Stonepark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 im sure it will come here as well.when the idiots see it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, mossy835 said: im sure it will come here as well.when the idiots see it, If the shooting organisations are quick they could suggest it before it comes in, get ahead of the legislation, so to speak. Think how much money they could save not fighting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Newbie to this said: If the shooting organisations are quick they could suggest it before it comes in, get ahead of the legislation, so to speak. Think how much money they could save not fighting it. Well that's seems to be what happened last time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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