Danger-Mouse Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Looks like Eire has been right royally shafted in the latest EU budget. The ROI will, presuming the budgets passes through parliament, become the 4th highest Net contributor, a jump from 9th place. Far more detail in the video. Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butchdickason Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Not at all surprised. Scotland will also get the same if Sturgeon gets her way and rejoins/fails to leave the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Scotland cannot join the EU, despite Nicola Krankie's madcap ranting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 thers a new anti eu party ready to kick off in italy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Think a lot of count are waiting to see how we get on before taking the plunge , Spain ,Italy and Greece are already goosed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern01 Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 47 minutes ago, sam triple said: Think a lot of count are waiting to see how we get on before taking the plunge , Spain ,Italy and Greece are already goosed That's why the Brexit negotiations are being made as difficult as possible as a Scarborough warning to the other nations who might try jump ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heron Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Not unexpected somebody has got make up for the money lost from the UK leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Gordon R said: Scotland cannot join the EU, despite Nicola Krankie's madcap ranting. Shame her supporters do not understand this and believe the utter rubbish that she tells them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moongeese Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Glad Boris reminded her yesterday , she has had her once in a lifetime chance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Ireland joining the EU in 1973 was an experiment which sort of worked and became the template for a raft of other small, relatively backward states to join in the 90s. The EU poured eye watering amounts of cash into Ireland to propel the country into the 1st world. Apart from a few vanity projects like random stretches of dual carriage in the middle of nowhere, the money enabled Ireland to compress 100 years of economic development into 1 generation, but the financial cost was enormous. IMO it's long overdue for Ireland to start pulling it's weight with their EU budget contributions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oisin og Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Westward said: Ireland joining the EU in 1973 was an experiment which sort of worked and became the template for a raft of other small, relatively backward states to join in the 90s. The EU poured eye watering amounts of cash into Ireland to propel the country into the 1st world. Apart from a few vanity projects like random stretches of dual carriage in the middle of nowhere, the money enabled Ireland to compress 100 years of economic development into 1 generation, but the financial cost was enormous. IMO it's long overdue for Ireland to start pulling it's weight with their EU budget contributions. Thank you for this penetrating and astute analysis. The three countries which joined the European Union in the 90’s were Sweden, Finland and Austria. Backward you say? That part of the island of Ireland which is currently part of the UK cannot even manage a dual carriageway between its two largest cities, Belfast and Derry, which are a mere seventy miles apart. Backward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, oisin og said: Thank you for this penetrating and astute analysis. The three countries which joined the European Union in the 90’s were Sweden, Finland and Austria. Backward you say? That part of the island of Ireland which is currently part of the UK cannot even manage a dual carriageway between its two largest cities, Belfast and Derry, which are a mere seventy miles apart. Backward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, oisin og said: Thank you for this penetrating and astute analysis. The three countries which joined the European Union in the 90’s were Sweden, Finland and Austria. Backward you say? That part of the island of Ireland which is currently part of the UK cannot even manage a dual carriageway between its two largest cities, Belfast and Derry, which are a mere seventy miles apart. Backward? But there is hardly any traffic on the road between Belfast and Londonderry, least not when I am on it. Edited July 27, 2020 by Fisheruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) The American Civil war was caused by the States arguing among themselves about how much they should pay. The Southern States felt (justifiably) they were being asked to pay more than their fair share and other States were not contributing enough. Then Louisiana had enough and left. The parallels between the US then and the EU today is actually quite remarkable. Hope it doesn't end the same way Edited July 28, 2020 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 18 hours ago, oisin og said: That part of the island of Ireland which is currently part of the UK cannot even manage a dual carriageway between its two largest cities, Belfast and Derry, which are a mere seventy miles apart. Backward? Given the rare occasions I drive between the two are pretty plain sailing without congestion what would a dual carriageway add? I should admit here that I have never done that route at rush hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 On 27/07/2020 at 18:41, oisin og said: The three countries which joined the European Union in the 90’s were Sweden, Finland and Austria. Backward you say? I was thinking about certain East European states. Maybe it was after the nineties but it's still socialism in the form of wealth redistribution which won't end well since those smaller states remain forever beholden to the EU for the bulk of their GDP. Since the EU is unsustainable in anything like it's present form and sooner or later will implode, what then for the smaller states? Did Ireland heed the causes of the bail out and take steps to protect itself from future melt downs, or is the same old same old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwana Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 18 hours ago, Wb123 said: Given the rare occasions I drive between the two are pretty plain sailing without congestion what would a dual carriageway add? I should admit here that I have never done that route at rush hour. An Irish rush hour ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 8 hours ago, bwana said: An Irish rush hour ? I can confirm there are certainly rush hours around Dublin, in Northern Ireland they exist also, but even in belfast generally they don’t have the same degree of congestion as larger cities I have worked in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) On 28/07/2020 at 12:40, Vince Green said: The American Civil war was caused by the States arguing among themselves about how much they should pay. The Southern States felt (justifiably) they were being asked to pay more than their fair share and other States were not contributing enough. Then Louisiana had enough and left. The parallels between the US then and the EU today is actually quite remarkable. Hope it doesn't end the same way I think it’s too late I’m afraid Vince ... Theyve already free’d all the slaves and given them the vote! (I jest ). 14 hours ago, bwana said: An Irish rush hour ? Isn’t that when they call last orders? Edited July 29, 2020 by Lloyd90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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