collectors Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Can't believe that shoots are still going on in tier 4 areas. Two of my local shoots are open next Sunday. I was under the impression that the government is saying dont leave your home. So how are shooters getting to the shoots? Or are these guys & girls doctors & nurses or essential workers. We are just coming up to 70K in deats in the UK & getting worse. I am not bothered on these senseless people getting COVID, but would like them punished for all they give it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Orston is holding a 120 Reg ESP on Boxing Day. We shan't be going, not sure how it can be justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Essential workers, doesn't come into it, never did. Why don't people read the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggy74 Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 they are within the rules so whats your issue??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 I try to be very carefull indeed with covid and I think clay shooting is one of the safest things you can do. Dont see a problem myself either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Good on them, enjoying themselves instead of hdiing away wringing their hands. What a bunch of whimps this country has raised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 CPSA guidance on clay shooting in Tier 4. https://www.cpsa.co.uk/news/coronavirus-covid-19/2020/12/20/tier-4-guidance-regarding-shooting-grounds-and-cpsa-registered-shoots/5504 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Not having the faintest idea of this tier thing anymore and I'm sure I'm not the only one, my son just told me we're 3 and clay shooting is on and our perm is as normal anyway as it's crop protection/pest control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbers Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 thought you were not to gather in groups over 6 in number ,so how can it be within the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsZeppelin Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, dabbers said: thought you were not to gather in groups over 6 in number ,so how can it be within the rules. Limit your squad to a maximum of six, don't mix with other squads, and limit the amount of people in the clubhouse/shop. It's common sense really. They cannot claim everyone at the shooting ground is one group or they would have to say the same for everyone in a supermarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimo22 Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Tier 4 does not say group of six, it says people within your household or one person from another household. BASC and Cpsa say you should not be shooting organised shoots in Tier 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Shooting shouldn’t be happening in tier 4 unless on your own / within household. Why anyone would want to go around touching buttons after god knows how many other people during a pandemic I have no idea. Leave it for now. Go when the country is recovering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, oscarsdad said: Shooting shouldn’t be happening in tier 4 unless on your own / within household. Or one person can meet one other from another household. 6 minutes ago, oscarsdad said: Why anyone would want to go around touching buttons after god knows how many other people during a pandemic I have no idea. Leave it for now. Go when the country is recovering. It's called hand sanitiser for a reason. Edited December 24, 2020 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangolin Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Walker570 said: Good on them, enjoying themselves instead of hdiing away wringing their hands. What a bunch of whimps this country has raised. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 We either Lockdown fully or not at all. This half hearted tiered approach is getting none of us nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 17 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Orston is holding a 120 Reg ESP on Boxing Day. We shan't be going, not sure how it can be justified. Orston has had its collective mind changed. Strangely the Sportrap Competition is still going ahead and the site is open for practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collectors Posted December 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 Cant believe what members are saying on this forum. We have just had the equivalent over the last 9 months of 175 average size jumbo jets fall out the sky with all lives lost & people are saying its safe to go shooting.?? It clearly says on the government's website. Don't go out unless compleatly necessary in tier 4 areas. Shooting ain't necessary. LINK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, collectors said: Cant believe what members are saying on this forum. We have just had the equivalent over the last 9 months of 175 average size jumbo jets fall out the sky with all lives lost & people are saying its safe to go shooting.?? It clearly says on the government's website. Don't go out unless compleatly necessary in tier 4 areas. Shooting ain't necessary. LINK. I think you should read the rules in greater detail, recreation and exercise are allowed and shooting is amongst that which is allowed as long as the rules of Tier 4 are adhered to. It's all there if you can be bothered to read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Orston has had its collective mind changed. Strangely the Sportrap Competition is still going ahead and the site is open for practice. I buy my cartridges there and have done a bit of practise for game season - staff are ok Covid wise but the cafe has been consistently occupied by groups and shooters not distancing or wearing masks where they should be. Not Orston’s fault but people going are not behaving sensibly when I’ve seen them (that’s not including the 🔔end who pointed his pcp at me in the car park telling me it’s ok as it’s not loaded and who if we didn’t have Covid would have risked a nose bleed). Edited December 25, 2020 by oscarsdad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collectors Posted December 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Newbie to this said: I think you should read the rules in greater detail, recreation and exercise are allowed and shooting is amongst that which is allowed as long as the rules of Tier 4 are adhered to. It's all there if you can be bothered to read it. Then why are they clearly saying on TV this morning "Boxing day" NOT TO GO OUT in tier 4 areas. We are trying to save the lives of the NHS staff & many more. Yet idiots plan to socialise at shoots because the CPSA says you can. Good luck to you all. Edited December 26, 2020 by collectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 How many people died from heart attack, cancer, road accidents, other accidents etc etc etc this last week. The clever clogs down at No10 is not including this nor is he including the 'false' reports of covid death, like dying of something totally different in the 28 days since a test. All inflated to frighten the living doo daars out of people because they are scared stiff that their inadequate NHS will not be able to cope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsalmons Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 Walker570 - 100% agree with you. They should have released an accurate report on all deaths and causes each month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243deer Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 Given a choice between going to a supermarket and meeting at a shoot where 2m distancing in the open air is respected, I am pretty sure which one poses less risk. Just as anyone who goes lone deer stalking, pigeon decoying, rough shooting, walking, cycling or canoeing represents zero risk to either themselves or their 'bubble' (a phrase that is clearly rubbish as at least one person in every bubble either goes shopping or receives a delivery of shopping) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, 243deer said: Given a choice between going to a supermarket and meeting at a shoot where 2m distancing in the open air is respected, I am pretty sure which one poses less risk. Just as anyone who goes lone deer stalking, pigeon decoying, rough shooting, walking, cycling or canoeing represents zero risk to either themselves or their 'bubble' (a phrase that is clearly rubbish as at least one person in every bubble either goes shopping or receives a delivery of shopping) But shopping is regarded as essential. Most shooting and clays in particular are not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243deer Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: But shopping is regarded as essential. Most shooting and clays in particular are not! therein lies the crux of the matter, the risk of doing something 'essential' is not being managed at all. My mrs does any supermarket shopping and she reliably informs me that many folk are still not wearing masks and definitely do not respect the 2m space, many do not use the hand sanitising facilities available and many are in groups of 2 or 3. Millions of people meet in supermarkets every day at great risk to the NHS. If this was being managed correctly then I would agree that we should then consider the risks of smaller meetings of folk but until this situation changes it appears to me that meetings of smaller numbers of folk that are properly managed are far lower risk to the NHS than the irresponsible folk doing 'essential' shopping. I have heard game shoots have been far more responsible than supermarkets at managing the spread of the virus. It is at best unfortunate that our powers that be seem incapable of seeing where the risks really lie and making up rules that reflect this rather than ambiguous rules open to interpretation. I cannot comment on folk that go to clay grounds as I have not been to one in several years but from the sound of it they could do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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