udderlyoffroad Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 Can’t help but feel employing the services of a decent QC would’ve at least resulted in a substantially shorter sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 minute ago, udderlyoffroad said: Can’t help but feel employing the services of a decent QC would’ve at least resulted in a substantially shorter sentence. He had one provided for him FOC , but directed him what to say ? Either way , hes finished , bankrupt, and lost his liberty. Apparently , you really cant say nasty things about people on the internet, even if some of them are true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boristhedog Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 Thought this might be of interest: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 I did watch a few of his latter programs and thought back then that he might just find himself on a longish holiday. Hope there is someone to look after his little dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 My wife drew my attention to his story, which seemed to have some merit. Given that he only presented his own version, it seemed he was being victimised. Having had his day in court, the other side of the story seemed far more sinister. It reminded me of Megahn Markle's portrayal of herself as a victim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Boristhedog said: Thought this might be of interest: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf That makes for some interesting reading. Even if half of what the court / jury accepted to be true is true, then this bloke is a proper psycho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisv Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 On 18/09/2022 at 22:26, Mungler said: That makes for some interesting reading. Even if half of what the court / jury accepted to be true is true, then this bloke is a proper psycho. On 18/09/2022 at 21:56, Gordon R said: My wife drew my attention to his story, which seemed to have some merit. Given that he only presented his own version, it seemed he was being victimised. Having had his day in court, the other side of the story seemed far more sinister. It reminded me of Megahn Markle's portrayal of herself as a victim. As above, he seems a very strange character. Like Gordon, I also started watching when I heard about the alleged vendetta against him. I gave up when he posted a rant against deer stalking even though it was obvious that he didn’t have a clue what he was talking about. I’m not a Jeremy Vine fan, but there’s an interview with him about AB on tonight’s Newsnight, BBC2 10:30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 56 minutes ago, chrisv said: As above, he seems a very strange character. Like Gordon, I also started watching when I heard about the alleged vendetta against him. I gave up when he posted a rant against deer stalking even though it was obvious that he didn’t have a clue what he was talking about. I’m not a Jeremy Vine fan, but there’s an interview with him about AB on tonight’s Newsnight, BBC2 10:30. I gave up watching him when he did a bit on something that I knew a bit about, and he obviously was right behind the idea of not letting the truth get in the way of a good story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, bluesj said: I gave up watching him when he did a bit on something that I knew a bit about, and he obviously was right behind the idea of not letting the truth get in the way of a good story! You mean he’s a journalist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 The Judge's comments make interesting reading. Whilst Belfield might feel hard done to, it could be said that he got off lightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, London Best said: You mean he’s a journalist! No I think a journalist is someone that reports new by relaying the facts not by making it up or forgetting to report some of the important facts so as to make the story what they want. Trouble is there aren't many journalists about any more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 10 hours ago, bluesj said: No I think a journalist is someone that reports new by relaying the facts not by making it up or forgetting to report some of the important facts so as to make the story what they want. Trouble is there aren't many journalists about any more! I think that’s a very old definition of journalist. Probably pre-dates when the BBC began running the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 He is one seriously disturbed and potentially dangerous person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Not many of the supporters, or those with sympathy for him, at the start of the thread saying much. Raising interesting questions on how vociferous people can sway thoughts when added to social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 I have watched him for some time, I did find him amusing on some of his Mike taking, apparently that is not acceptable today, did he go to far, yes, did he deserve over 5 years prison sentence, no. A lot of the time he would go on about the boat crossings, I won’t use his term as that is probably not acceptable, let’s hope if these judges are getting tough on crime this sort of sentence is put right across the board of criminal’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 He became boring after a while on his videos,same old same old, and then the court case showed the side that he obviously didn't want told. He probably could have made a good living on you tube, he had the voice and a format that worked, he could have just presented a show and got lots of followers. Did he deserve 5 yrs\? well that's the courts decision he can always appeal, looking at the court case he appears to have made some peoples life hell, there is a difference between exposing people or organisations and obsessivly stalking them on line, he just couldn't let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, henry d said: Not many of the supporters, or those with sympathy for him, at the start of the thread saying much Welcome back henry. I restarted the thread, not because I believe him to be innocent, it's simply because I find a non physical stalking conviction very difficult to quantify a 5.5 year prison sentence with. It's been said that he made those peoples lives hell, but even if that were the case {which I doubt very much} it still seems a lot, when you consider the paltry terms handed out to burglars, rapists, and people wound and maim innocents. People who really have been made to go through hell. How a few nasty emails, and a bit of social media taunting, sends radio and TV personalities 'through hell' is a mystery to me, when they are constantly exposed to all of raw society on a daily basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 25/03/2021 at 19:23, countryman said: Go and have a look on YouTube, what’s going on with him and the BBC is a real eye opener. Is he a stalker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 This is JV who was on Newsnight the other night - He states that Alex Belfield published his address - So is he going to take Companies House to court then - as he runs a Ltd Co business, that information is freely available to anyone, and that his daughters are listed as shareholders (from birth if I recall correctly) then that is also a matter of public record. Was, what Alex done, right - No - Did he overstep the mark - definitely - but as others have said- Consecutive sentences for all to stretch it all out when compared to what other offences get (concurrently as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will get you five and half years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Burglars might get less than the 5+ years, but I would be giving them 10 years. The Judge got this right. It's a shame that other judges don't follow his example. Belfield has only himself to blame. He was warned by solicitors on a number of occasions, but couldn't take advice. I have long held the belief that there ought to be an offence of criminal stupidity. 🙂 His arrogance has cost him dearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gordon R said: His arrogance has cost him dearly. Undoubtedly it has - but as I said, JV's words were also misleading - and he, by the nature of doing tax avoidance, brought his daughters into it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 JV was a relatively small part of the case, but got the most publicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 He is not going to prison for 5 years, its 2 years 6 months, the other half he will be out on licence.https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf , this was posted earlier in this thread, definitely worth reading and then think if 2 years 6 months in prison is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Not necessarily, he was getting a very big following, hundreds of thousands, he was bringing things to light that the media would not report on and our politicians shy away from. I wouldn’t be surprised if he does more than 2years 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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