Gordon R Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 I agree about Braverman. There are a couple of posters hinting that Sunak might be corrupt. I would honestly like to know why it is suggested that he is more likely to be corrupt than any other. I trust his ethnicity isn't a factor, because that would be truly appalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 No way Braverman will be let anywhere near the Home Office again. Too interested in actually doing what she said she would. Can’t have that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Mice! said: The thing us, that's the same as normal really, budget cuts, waiting lists are already/always long and never seem to reduce. We're spending billions on the Ukraine, as much no doubt in foreign aid, illegal immigration costs a fortune, the figures involved just mount up. Not sure how it leads to more crime or a shorter life expectancy though? Labour will want to come in, borrow borrow borrow using the magic money tree and throw money around simply increasing the debt, not reducing anything. 🤣 That would be the Tories. We need a dose of reality starting with our expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, Gordon R said: I agree about Braverman. There are a couple of posters hinting that Sunak might be corrupt. I would honestly like to know why it is suggested that he is more likely to be corrupt than any other. I trust his ethnicity isn't a factor, because that would be truly appalling. Your easily appalled these days, I'd say it's just because he has obvious links to India through his Billionaire FinL, but I don't see how it will make any difference really, being in the PM position has to mean he has less chance of any schemes? Imagine him telling his FinL about an upcoming deal or such like and then it gets recorded or leaked, he'd be ruined. I still don't understand why someone with the money he has would want to be in politics though? 7 minutes ago, oowee said: 🤣 That would be the Tories. We need a dose of reality starting with our expectations. Seems like it lately with the money printed out through Covid and now the Ukraine, its only numbers on a screen though 😅😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 36 minutes ago, Mice! said: No not at all, but while Sunak may well try to reduce spending, Labour will be shouting loads a money, they never seem concerned at all that the debt figure is increasing. What was the note they left last time, all the moneys gone, something along those lines?? yes it was but what will the note say this time no country left the way it's going i will still vote con but i think i am wasting my time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Mice! said: I still don't understand why someone with the money he has would want to be in politics though? If you look at his career, he has always aimed to 'fly high'; Head boy at school Degree (1st) at Oxford in Philosophy, Politics & Economics MBA at Stamford under a scholarship Career in the City Rapid rise in politics to Chancellor I suspect he is a 'workaholic' type who wouldn't be happy living of the wife's money. Edited October 24, 2022 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, Gordon R said: I agree about Braverman. There are a couple of posters hinting that Sunak might be corrupt. I would honestly like to know why it is suggested that he is more likely to be corrupt than any other. I trust his ethnicity isn't a factor, because that would be truly appalling. You seem to have become a grump with a bag of chips on your shoulder, was Covid a bit much for you. Its because of his family's millions as far as I'm concerned. Millionaires frequently get their wealth from good contacts in government - think oligarchs as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 49 minutes ago, Gordon R said: I agree about Braverman. There are a couple of posters hinting that Sunak might be corrupt. I would honestly like to know why it is suggested that he is more likely to be corrupt than any other. I trust his ethnicity isn't a factor, because that would be truly appalling. OMG!! The race card. His ethnicity has nothing to do with it.!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Dave-G - you seem to be having a junior pop. Please don't make a bigger fool of yourself. Quote OMG!! The race card. His ethnicity has nothing to do with it.!!!!!! Pathetic. Perhaps you can explain why his background should make him open to doing deals with his family etc etc. He doesn't need the money and in theory should be less susceptible to corruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Give the lad a chance. He seems to enjoy excelling in all aspects of his life so far. We berate those who can’t be bothered to get up off their bums, yet here we are, directing some vitriol to someone who actually does put the work in. Successful people don’t just give up after the first trappings of success, they build upon it. Isn’t that the sort of people we need to build this Country back up again. Not some ‘instagram activist’ non realist. Don’t begrudge what we don’t have, for many have succeeded from ‘scratch’ and not had it handed to them. Also, not everyone is corrupt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: suspect he is a 'workaholic' type who wouldn't be happy living of the wife's money. I did look briefly when he ran last time, I hope he is a workaholic, if that's the case he should achieve things 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Rim Fire said: yes it was but what will the note say this time no country left the way it's going i will still vote con but i think i am wasting my time People keep saying this about the country but I just don't see it. How many on here shoot for fun, probably driving more to a shoot than they do for work? Add in everything else we buy because we can, we had an Indian last night because we fancied one then watched a film on Disney. It's all about perspective in my opinion. Hopefully when the next election comes along in two years the Cons will have sorted their house out, and Labour will still be pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 My problem with him is best illustrated by the red diesel for construction fiasco. How out of touch, massive upheaval/admin for minimal return, and completely unTory can you get? Oh, and his bare-faced enthusiasm for a central digital crypto currency. Perhaps anyone still going on about the ‘Markets’, kindly explain how the markets were not spooked by his repeated splurging of billions on furlough et al? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mice! said: People keep saying this about the country but I just don't see it. How many on here shoot for fun, probably driving more to a shoot than they do for work? Add in everything else we buy because we can, we had an Indian last night because we fancied one then watched a film on Disney. It's all about perspective in my opinion. Hopefully when the next election comes along in two years the Cons will have sorted their house out, and Labour will still be pointless. That's because we can afford to do the things we love it's the youngsters that will suffer with there mortgages and young families and they are the ones that will have to pay for all this mess i can honestly say nothing they can do will effect my way of living it will cost me more but it won't stop me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 So its Dwali today..festival of light...my advice to them is save yer candles boy...you will need them later in the year.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Rim Fire said: That's because we can afford to do the things we love it's the youngsters that will suffer with there mortgages and young families and they are the ones that will have to pay for all this mess i can honestly say nothing they can do will effect my way of living it will cost me more but it won't stop me My family is young, probably looking at ten more years of education, then the possibility of university, the thing is we aren't daft splurging money, borrowing beyond our means because the rates were so low. My kids will grow up knowing if they want things then they have to earn it, you'll get nothing given you for free. It's always youngsters that suffer when it comes to buying because house prices only go up, then pensioners on low fixed income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Gordon R said: Dave-G - you seem to be having a junior pop. Please don't make a bigger fool of yourself. Pathetic. Perhaps you can explain why his background should make him open to doing deals with his family etc etc. He doesn't need the money and in theory should be less susceptible to corruption. In my uninformed opinion, he comes across as false, has choreographed video shoots and it looked to me like he was instrumental in removing Boris from office, not to mention his speach seemingly being written far too soon for it not to have all been planned. To my mind, it makes him appear devious, as most politicians are, but he reminds me of Blair. All that said, its a done deal now, time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Scully said: I’m not surprised you can’t be bothered, it can’t be much fun having your contradictions and stuff you make up pointed out to you. You said millions ( or some other hysterical number ) of lives would be put at risk; have a look it’s probably still there, I can’t be bothered. I live in the real world; and not one where politicians cause bouts of bed wetting by those who can’t get a grip and think they’re owed something. Edited October 24, 2022 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oowee Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 I think he deserves a chance at what will be a difficult job to say the least. I think he has a sound head on his shoulders lets hope he gets the support to put it into action. Fair play to the Tories for diversity his appointment may work in favour of the UK when we try to nail that trade deal and immigration strategy with India. Try and get some brexit dividend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Watching itv news on plus1, funny that Labour and SNP think there should be a GE called, not going to happen is it. But what's the chances they have done a deal, either a coalition 😰😰😰 or let us have the second vote?? So 5 PMs in the last 12 years, a coalition, no majority, then the crushing win in 2019, and Labour still hasn't found the light switch 🤣🤣 6 minutes ago, oowee said: think he deserves a chance at what will be a difficult job to say the least. I think he has a sound head on his shoulders lets hope he gets the support to put it into action. Most MPs seem to be behind him, but they won't publicly say much else will they? Interesting times ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, oowee said: I think he deserves a chance at what will be a difficult job to say the least. I think he has a sound head on his shoulders Why on earth does he deserve a chance? He was in charge of the treasury under Boris whom you’ve stated repeatedly you can’t abide. How can he possibly have a “sensible head on his shoulders “ after he repeatedly borrowed obscene amounts to combat coronavirus, which he now conveniently claims he was never that enthusiastic about. The man is an utter ****weasal, not fit to run the office 5-aside. I’d almost rather Starmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 5 hours ago, oowee said: I think he deserves a chance at what will be a difficult job to say the least. I think he has a sound head on his shoulders lets hope he gets the support to put it into action. Fair play to the Tories for diversity his appointment may work in favour of the UK when we try to nail that trade deal and immigration strategy with India. Try and get some brexit dividend. I absolutely agree that he deserves a chance. But while I don't care what his ethnicity is, neither do I believe its a good thing, someones colour should not come into being chosen as PM, or any other job for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: someones colour should not come into being chosen as PM, or any other job for that matter. Exactly this i would rather Sunak than boris the liar everyone bashes Labour but they haven't been in power for 12 yrs and we are still up ;',. creek without a paddle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 16 hours ago, amateur said: Starmer the next PM? If he was elected he would have less time in office than liz Truss had. He would be ousted and some hard left Momentum candidate shoe horned in to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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