Scully Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, henry d said: So are these people migrants or asylum seekers? Good question! Isn’t that the problem? If they’re economic migrants then why don’t they arrive via the proper channels ( rather than the English one ) as many have and do? If they’re asylum seekers why do they need to seek asylum from France? France isn’t at war with anyone as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, old'un said: Can you not understand people just don't want mass immigration/asylum seekers in their area with all problems it brings Of course, but as Millrace said they are coming off a plane and as they are part of Europe, duty bound to allow this. If the people of Ireland don't want this then they need a referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 On analysis, It's pointless boiling up over this? There is nothing that can be done? This can't/won't alter till the politicos in charge want it to? Patently this is not their wish for some deeply hidden reason? We have been placed in the situation of having to vote for who we personally think will cause us least harm not benefit the nation? Needful of a dramatic change but to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, henry d said: If the people of Ireland don't want this then they need a referendum They won't be allowed one, unconstitutional as far as EU law goes. And coming out of the EU, we'll, it took 3 referendums to keep them in, they won't get another one of those either. Irish politicians are too busy in the trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, Scully said: Good question! Isn’t that the problem? If they’re economic migrants then why don’t they arrive via the proper channels ( rather than the English one ) as many have and do? If they’re asylum seekers why do they need to seek asylum from France? France isn’t at war with anyone as far as I know. This is what he said; "...someone coming off a plane..." So that implies they have a legal right to live and work in Ireland or that they have come through established channels to claim asylum. As said above if you don't want people to come from eu countries then have a referendum. 1 hour ago, 243deer said: ...migration is responsible for nearly 50% of your population growth... In Ireland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, henry d said: This is what he said; "...someone coming off a plane..." So that implies they have a legal right to live and work in Ireland or that they have come through established channels to claim asylum. As said above if you don't want people to come from eu countries then have a referendum. In Ireland? I stand corrected. My fault for jumping in without reading ALL the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, henry d said: This is what he said; "...someone coming off a plane..." So that implies they have a legal right to live and work in Ireland or that they have come through established channels to claim asylum. As said above if you don't want people to come from eu countries then have a referendum. In Ireland? does it really matter how they arrive, putting large numbers of immigrants/asylum seekers in an area is not going to work, they WILL just create their own society within that country, its perhaps the worst thing you can do to create an integrated society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 hours ago, henry d said: Why is this scary? Your good at asking questions, not so good at answering them though, are you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) The thing I find ironic, is that Irish have a population of around 6 million but a disporia of around 50 -80 million of which they are very proud off. They even have St Patrick's days in other countries. Edited February 19, 2023 by Rem260 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 44 minutes ago, Rem260 said: The thing I find ironic, is that Irish have a population of around 6 million but a disporia of around 50 -80 million of which they are very proud off. They even have St Patrick's days in other countries. " the Flight of Earls" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 Anyone with an idea where to put them when all the accommodation is full to capacity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Surfer said: Anyone with an idea where to put them when all the accommodation is full to capacity? If Labour get in. It will be in your spare bedroom. Edited February 19, 2023 by Rem260 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopp1 Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) Diversity is our strength Edited February 19, 2023 by bishopp1 Probably inappropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 I don't normally reply to these topics, as I can't personally do or change (or suggest any answers) anything with the situation, but,,,, this seriously needs to be got under control ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Rem260 said: If Labour get in. It will be in your spare bedroom. Alas I don’t have a spare room,the way things are going I don’t think many will have anything spare 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 58 minutes ago, Surfer said: Alas I don’t have a spare room,the way things are going I don’t think many will have anything spare 😂 If labour get in no one will have anything spare, unless of course you are a senior party member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 6 hours ago, henry d said: Not a game, it's a question. Ireland? This makes interesting reading on what's driving population growth. https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/ireland-sees-largest-jump-in-population-in-14-years-1354376.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 now it seems Germany wants to send. People to Africa. To get processed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 Hello, if people are a genuine migrant with papers and passport, even a job to go to then that seems ok, but we cannot take illegal immigrants for ever coming across the channel , despite those who want to help, we have UK residents that need help but I don't see any demonstrations for them, 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 7 hours ago, henry d said: So that implies they have a legal right to live and work in Ireland or that they have come through established channels to claim asylum. Anyone can claim asylum, whether they arrive by plane, dinghy or clinging to the underside of something. Its whether or not they are granted asylum once their case has been examined. A certain MP has recently questioned the Albanian ambassador about why the Albanian dinghy people don't just fly in from their safe country and claim asylum, the ambassador had no answer. On one hand it would seem the act of desperately, and illegally entering the country, somehow strengthens the claim, or it erases their possibly criminal Identity and history? But on the other hand, we hardly ever send anyone back anyway, despite the flimsiest of reasons for claiming, the Albanians have been told to say they owe money back home, this apparently puts their life in danger, or some other rubbish. The fact is most of them borrow money off UK based crime gangs to get in, then cost the taxpayer £1000 a week to be fed and homed in hotels? Perhaps we could make it known they have to pay this back, or there will be 'trouble' 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 What a bloody awful situation with no chance of being stopped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 4 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: ...we have UK residents that need help but I don't see any demonstrations for them, Are they fleeing war or persecution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, henry d said: Are they fleeing war or persecution? They aren’t fleeing war if they’re coming from France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krico woodcock Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 11 hours ago, Rem260 said: The thing I find ironic, is that Irish have a population of around 6 million but a disporia of around 50 -80 million of which they are very proud off. They even have St Patrick's days in other countries. How is this ironic?? Have a good think about it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, henry d said: Are they fleeing war or persecution? Hello, the only nationals I can see fleeing war are Ukrainians , and I am pleased many came to UK, they had the majority of UK resident on their side, illegal immigrants coming in boats that's another matter, maybe they should stay in french hotels 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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