Paul Janz Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Hello i am using a sub 12ft lb 22 Gammo phox and i am cofident out to 35 /40 yards but the land i have to shoot is very open i have been offered a FAC 20ft lb BSA R10se provided i can get it added to my shot gun licence and i was wondering if i this would give me the extra range 45/50 yards max or is my 12ft capable and it is just down to me to practice out to 45 on targets before having a go at the rabbits thank you for your advice. Regards Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Mate shoots his FAC air out to 80 yds. He says it will penetrate cleanly three empty plastic salt lick buckets at that range. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Paul Janz said: Hello i am using a sub 12ft lb 22 Gammo phox and i am cofident out to 35 /40 yards but the land i have to shoot is very open i have been offered a FAC 20ft lb BSA R10se provided i can get it added to my shot gun licence and i was wondering if i this would give me the extra range 45/50 yards max or is my 12ft capable and it is just down to me to practice out to 45 on targets before having a go at the rabbits thank you for your advice. Regards Paul You're going to need a bigger boat Firearms Certificate. Without being silly, a R10 se will do 25 ftlbs comfortably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 that must go on a firearms cert, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 SI pittaway has a video on tube shooting a rabbit at 85 yds with a sub 12 pretty impressive. I had a .22 with 36lb of energy and shot crows out to 85 yds and rabbits to 60 yds at night with ease. I could not do that with a sub 12. That said I think you have already missed the boat on those rabbits for a while. If they are to be culled you need to do them before they wise up. After which whatever firearm you are using they will be far more wary and difficult to deal with. If its for the pot then that's a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 5 hours ago, oowee said: SI pittaway has a video on tube shooting a rabbit at 85 yds with a sub 12 pretty impressi Not clever though, that's the problem with these videos they only show the shots that are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 9 hours ago, Mice! said: Not clever though, that's the problem with these videos they only show the shots that are good. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 15 hours ago, oowee said: SI pittaway has a video on tube shooting a rabbit at 85 yds with a sub 12 pretty impressive. I had a .22 with 36lb of energy and shot crows out to 85 yds and rabbits to 60 yds at night with ease. I could not do that with a sub 12. That said I think you have already missed the boat on those rabbits for a while. If they are to be culled you need to do them before they wise up. After which whatever firearm you are using they will be far more wary and difficult to deal with. If its for the pot then that's a different matter. hello, 85 Yards with a sub 12 ft llb air rifle 🤔 10 hours ago, Mice! said: Not clever though, that's the problem with these videos they only show the shots that are good. hello, if they are genuine shots 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, 85 Yards with a sub 12 ft llb air rifle 🤔 hello, if they are genuine shots 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, oowee said: hello, interesting, thanks for posting, i have a sub 12 177 PCP,well it is a SMK 79 that i did the HPA , but i limit my shooting range and use a tripod, 50 yard max, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, 85 Yards with a sub 12 ft llb air rifle 🤔 hello, if they are genuine shots 🤔 I think its practice, conditions and skills. I don't have the skills or the practice. Same as centre fire. There are some on here shooting effectively out to 500 yds or more, each to their own. Edited December 21, 2023 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, oowee said: I think its practice, conditions and skills. I don't have the skills or the practice. Same as centre fire. There are some on here shooting effectively out to 500 yds or more, each to there own. hello, i agree oowee, also i do not lay on the grass !!!!!, in case i cannot get up 😄 Edited December 21, 2023 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, interesting, thanks for posting, i have a sub 12 177 PCP,well it is a SMK 79 that i did the HPA , but i limit my shooting range and use a tripod, 50 yard max, I am shooting off quad sticks. With sub 12 max is around 45 yds as I dont want to do holdover etc, with hmr its good to 130 yds on rabbits its the same shooting with flat trajectory shooting to mpbr. 2 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i agree oowee, also i do not lay on the grass !!!!!, in case i cannot get up 😄 🤣 I dont lay on the ground as here muddy clay if you get down your plastered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, oowee said: I am shooting off quad sticks. With sub 12 max is around 45 yds as I dont want to do holdover etc, with hmr its good to 130 yds on rabbits its the same shooting with flat trajectory shooting to mpbr. hello, with holdover you have to know your scope and do a lot of tests, well i did, shame they do not make a scope like Hawke have for a 22 L/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 55 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, with holdover you have to know your scope and do a lot of tests, well i did, shame they do not make a scope like Hawke have for a 22 L/R Also it looks like there's a fair breeze blowing on that hillside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, old'un said: Also it looks like there's a fair breeze blowing on that hillside. hello, yes it looks that way yet he did not correct scope for that 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, oowee said: I think its practice, conditions and skills. I don't have the skills or the practice. Same as centre fire. There are some on here shooting effectively out to 500 yds or more, each to their own. That's the same with anything though really, the big issue with sub 12 is if you make a bad shot then the pellet doesn't have the energy to be effective, we all know how much a breeze can push the pellet off target at half that range. I'd personally be more impressed if he could hit ten knock down rabbits at that range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 Just seen this thread. I used to shoot field target competitively and used to take the air arms pro target to the farm . It was super accurate on bunny at 65-70 yards but once I’d gone fac (hmr/lr ) I couldn’t go back . I’m happier using the 22lr at that range. I still have a walther lgu in .177 but it’s used to 35/40 yards now . I know of people using 40ftlb in .25 at 80 yards but it must be loopy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.357shooter Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 would depend on the skill and experience of the shooter.with my .177 s400 classic i could group a lot better at 50yards than a friend could with his .22 fac theoben.my groups were smaller than a new 5pence coin his were juat about a 2 pence coin or slightly larger.i know of people that can group within 10cm at 90 yards with a sub 12 airgun but they are in the top 5 percent in the couuntry(talking about bench rest shooters).as said 45yards for most with airguns and fac would do 80yards or so.after that you will be looking at .22lr then hmr.my best was 75yards and a clean kill on a bunny with no kicking and no jumping.would not try that now though as i am no longer skillfull enough and know my limitations.just for the record in glos if you apply for an fac it will take about 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, .357shooter said: would depend on the skill and experience of the shooter.with my .177 s400 classic i could group a lot better at 50yards than a friend could with his .22 fac theoben.my groups were smaller than a new 5pence coin his were juat about a 2 pence coin or slightly larger.i know of people that can group within 10cm at 90 yards with a sub 12 airgun but they are in the top 5 percent in the couuntry(talking about bench rest shooters).as said 45yards for most with airguns and fac would do 80yards or so.after that you will be looking at .22lr then hmr.my best was 75yards and a clean kill on a bunny with no kicking and no jumping.would not try that now though as i am no longer skillfull enough and know my limitations.just for the record in glos if you apply for an fac it will take about 2 years. Xxxxxx! Talk about a sting in the tale! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 On 21/12/2023 at 09:28, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i agree oowee, also i do not lay on the grass !!!!!, in case i cannot get up 😄 I use trigger sticks , but still keep Fac air to 60yds , as my talent runs out at that range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 I shoot squirrels out to about 40yards with my beeman r7. It’s about 7ft lbs if I remember correctly. It’s always a clean through shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 15 hours ago, Longbower said: I use trigger sticks , but still keep Fac air to 60yds , as my talent runs out at that range. Mine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Janz Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 Hello i know it has to go on my licence i have had my fo round just waiting for it to come back thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaman Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 On 07/01/2024 at 00:33, Paul Janz said: Hello i know it has to go on my licence i have had my fo round just waiting for it to come back thanks Definitely go for it . I have.25 running @ 72 ftlbs about 975 fps with 34 gr slug & crown running at 42 ftlbs about 950 fps with 21 gr slug or 45 ftlbs with 25.4 gr Just now, villaman said: Definitely go for it . I have.25 running @ 72 ftlbs about 975 fps with 34 gr slug & crown running at 42 ftlbs about 950 fps with 21 gr slug or 45 ftlbs with 25.4 gr My groups with .25 34 gr slug at 110 yards time after time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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