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They are present along the river locally to me and (apparently) have been seen in a place where I walk regularly, but I have never seen one there myself despite me walking early when it is quiet before most walkers, anglers and boats are out.  I once thought I saw one, but pretty sure it was a mink.

I have seen one in Scotland near Ullapool.

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On 23/02/2024 at 16:59, marsh man said:

I have never seen a pair together , we are getting more and more about so it might be only a matter of time , not everyone's friends , but still nice to see .

They can be an outright bloody menace, and should be able to be controlled like foxes.

13 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said:

Between Cormorants, Otters and Mink we will have no fish left in years to come.

Happening all ready, although mink are not really a problem to fish.

4 hours ago, London Best said:

Don’t kid yourself that otters only eat fish. 
They will eat anything with blood in it!

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21 minutes ago, Penelope said:

They can be an outright bloody menace, and should be able to be controlled like foxes.

Happening all ready, although mink are not really a problem to fish.

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You can blame Philp Wayre for the numbers about nowadays , he brought them back from nigh on extinction at Earsham near Bungay in 1971 , now they are in every waterway that hold fish in the U K , maybe one day you might see Otter Control on the side of motors like you did in the 70s and 80s when they had a all out war on the now extinct Coypu Rat , that is only wishful thinking and I doubt it will never happen .  :good:

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1 hour ago, marsh man said:

You can blame Philp Wayre for the numbers about nowadays , he brought them back from nigh on extinction at Earsham near Bungay in 1971 , now they are in every waterway that hold fish in the U K , maybe one day you might see Otter Control on the side of motors like you did in the 70s and 80s when they had a all out war on the now extinct Coypu Rat , that is only wishful thinking and I doubt it will never happen .  :good:

I know the history, John, but I very much doubt that they'll be any control of them, where they are causing problems.

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18 hours ago, Cranfield said:

I skipped many days off school to follow the otterhounds on the north Kent marshes.

They were blamed (probably wrongly) for the 1953 Thames flooding that affected Canvey Island and North Kent.


 

Otters or the hunt?

The 1953 east coast flooding was due to a storm surge in the North Sea.

19 hours ago, Rim Fire said:

I was told by a Gillie that ounce the otters move in the Mink soon start to disappear they kill them  

They will indeed oust any mink.

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21 hours ago, Penelope said:

Otters or the hunt?

The 1953 east coast flooding was due to a storm surge in the North Sea.

They will indeed oust any mink.

The Kent side of the Thames was breached in a number of places, notably "Egypt Bay" and it had been noted previously that there was some erosion in the sea wall there caused by holts and/or fox/badger diggings, which had caused overflow at extra high tides.
I lived in Cooling then (7 years old at the time) , on the marshes about a mile from the Thames, we had to move back to the village and my grandfather (shepherd) led cattle and sheep to dry land with a bale of hay on his back and six good dogs.

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I was lucky enough to look after these two for a few weeks before Christmas.  The female was found orphaned in the beck that runs along the side of my house.  She was taken away to a specialist rehab centre where she was paired up with an orphaned male of the same age.  The were brought back to my neck of the woods where we had them in a large soft release pen for a few weeks before  they headed out into the world.  it was an absolute pleasure to be able to be relatively up close and personal with some creatures that you only ever usually get a fleeting glimpse of.

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2 hours ago, Jonty said:

I was lucky enough to look after these two for a few weeks before Christmas.  The female was found orphaned in the beck that runs along the side of my house.  She was taken away to a specialist rehab centre where she was paired up with an orphaned male of the same age.  The were brought back to my neck of the woods where we had them in a large soft release pen for a few weeks before  they headed out into the world.  it was an absolute pleasure to be able to be relatively up close and personal with some creatures that you only ever usually get a fleeting glimpse of.

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Would you do the same with fox cubs?

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I see plenty of Otters, below is a picture I took last year of a pair living amongst and living off young rabbits on my croft. plenty of grub for them without getting a toe wet. After several years as a Mink trapper it was my experience that Otters and Mink co-exist but may avoid each other. not sure why they would want to fight, as either could end up with serious injury. Maybe if an Otter was very hungry !... edit to say I think these are youngish possibly siblings

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On 25/02/2024 at 22:38, Weihrauch17 said:

Between Cormorants, Otters and Mink we will have no fish left in years to come.

Hello, Your right not forgetting the Water Companies polluting our rivers, i have not been river trouting for years, it is a real shame🙄

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